I would hate being a fucking europoor. For years I thought that the average europoor was probably as wealthy as the average American and that the term europoor was just a meme, but I've recently learned that your wages are complete garbage. You guys have the worst parts of America, then decide to make it even shittier. We have wokeshit, you guys literally put it into law. We have edgy atheists, you guys hardly have any real Christians anymore. We have Mexicans, you decide to import muzzies. 50k for a tech job is entry level in the farthest suburbs. I feel sorry for you niggas, I hope it gets better r.
Writing a usable report takes a modicum of brainpower so it's not something that could be done by any random nagger off the street, but yeah if your IQ is over 90 you're pretty much good to go, just grab kali linux or something and start going through the howtos.
>Hiring penetration testers for shit wages
Great idea, pay someone poorly to break into all your infrastructure and gather all the information needed to do so. Surely that person would never ever feel compelled to sell that info to make real money.
its a meme job for retards who just run some scripts
this whole part of the "penetration testing" industry is a full on scam
the people with the skills you are talking about aren't applying for retard shit like this
its like comparing a real HVAC company to the indian who calls to sell you duct cleaning 8 times a day
This. I have been doing vendor reviews to hire a pen testing firm and they’re all just going to run their combo of pre-made scripts and output a report for us. This costs like $30-50K depending on the company. Nobody is going to actually try to hack into anything at all, it’s just another bullshit compliance checkbox for SOC2.
Computer security is 99% lies and bullshit. SOC2 has done almost nothing to improve our product. We wrote the policies with the help of ChatGPT. There’s nothing in there that actually ensures what we are doing is actually secure.
So, we bought some SAST tooling. This is something that scans your source code for common exploits. I looked up the company and it’s literally all founded by ex elite Mossad agents. This tells me we are sending all of our source code to Israel for them to actually scrutinize for exploits; not that this would have much value for them, but given enough clients they’ll find someone who has something of actual value.
You want real security? Don’t store any PII, ever, do immutable infrastructure, and focus more on detecting breaches.
Time was I have a shit about soc2 when buying software. Now that I’ve been through the process it’s utterly meaningless to me…
>How do I get a high paying pen test job?
step 1) apply
step 2) interview
step 3) negotiate
that's it, there are no more steps.
show up, don't suck, and have a reasonable expectation for salary.
i don't care if you have a degree or certs if you can't do shit.
>the people with the skills you are talking about aren't applying
implying they would even take actual people with skill, if they even employ and it is not just some fake vacancy that gets filled internally. Current German job market is just a huge circlejerk full of nepotism and incompetence. And then they wonder why our economy is slowly dying...
>it's a meme job
no, it's not. it's a real job where you have to do real job things. >muh scripts!
sure sure... no one is going to pay you for that.
they pay you for the report that you write up at the end detailing what you found and what your recommendations are.
>muh scripts
it's all it is, you're not hiring an elite haxxor, it's just scriptkiddies with their playbooks to rewrite scripts output into a word document and ask for 50k plus tip, the whole secbusiness is like that
>Why didnt you apply for this job yet?
Because pentester is not a job you do for the corporation
You go freelance and get the contrat first hand instead of getting israeliteed by the middle man israelite
those jobs are hard to get hell most jobs on stepstone are hard to get I tried it with a bunch and despite having a good degree they won't take you despite those jobs being very easy anyone could do. Makes me wonder if those are fake jobs.
After a certain point, excessive taxation dissolves the incentives to apply yourself and get a high paying job. In Germany, a 100k a year(extremely high wage in Germany btw, like top 5%, which is already laughable) codemonkey hardly has more purchasing power than an immigrant berry picker.
Currently there's a rising issue that some of our promising youths exploit government 0% loans and welfare to study by just chaining degrees and never actually getting a job. Why get a job and get taxed 50%+ when you could just get your life payed for by taking easy uni courses and spend all your free time at parties.
Shit pay. As expected from european shithole
4 times median here
...how the fuck do you live?
Europoor is not a meme, our purchasing power is shit. The poorest American loves like a king compared to 80% of us
This is literally solely because of our shit leaders and their idiot nagger policies. There‘s no other reason
If we had proper management in the west and not this virtue signaling cuck clown show we‘d be way better off
The AfD and SPD need to join forces and remove kebab
It's 5-10x the median here. I'd happily test dildos for that sum.
So youre a fag and a whore, its just a question of numbers in play
>I'd happily test dildos for that sum.
Check with your dad, the chief dildo tester, to see if there is any openings.
>46k gbp - 66k gbp
>for cybersec
haha
guzundheight.
sho bob 400000000000 kror rupi i work sybersecs. sybersecs bb
yeah its lower than my grad salary
I would hate being a fucking europoor. For years I thought that the average europoor was probably as wealthy as the average American and that the term europoor was just a meme, but I've recently learned that your wages are complete garbage. You guys have the worst parts of America, then decide to make it even shittier. We have wokeshit, you guys literally put it into law. We have edgy atheists, you guys hardly have any real Christians anymore. We have Mexicans, you decide to import muzzies. 50k for a tech job is entry level in the farthest suburbs. I feel sorry for you niggas, I hope it gets better r.
Comparing tech jobs to anything else is a bit retarded
50k is more than what 95% of Dutchoids make
classifying phishing vs spam is a hard job, your whole company depends on it chud
>spreadsheet and checklist babbies
No brainpower required, why should they get paid more
Pentesting is monkey work. Easy reports, simple procedure.
CyberSec homosexuals think too much of themselves.
Writing a usable report takes a modicum of brainpower so it's not something that could be done by any random nagger off the street, but yeah if your IQ is over 90 you're pretty much good to go, just grab kali linux or something and start going through the howtos.
because i make more money sitting on my ass "developing" in python for only 2 hours a day
>stepstone
>Hiring penetration testers for shit wages
Great idea, pay someone poorly to break into all your infrastructure and gather all the information needed to do so. Surely that person would never ever feel compelled to sell that info to make real money.
its a meme job for retards who just run some scripts
this whole part of the "penetration testing" industry is a full on scam
the people with the skills you are talking about aren't applying for retard shit like this
its like comparing a real HVAC company to the indian who calls to sell you duct cleaning 8 times a day
This. I have been doing vendor reviews to hire a pen testing firm and they’re all just going to run their combo of pre-made scripts and output a report for us. This costs like $30-50K depending on the company. Nobody is going to actually try to hack into anything at all, it’s just another bullshit compliance checkbox for SOC2.
Computer security is 99% lies and bullshit. SOC2 has done almost nothing to improve our product. We wrote the policies with the help of ChatGPT. There’s nothing in there that actually ensures what we are doing is actually secure.
So, we bought some SAST tooling. This is something that scans your source code for common exploits. I looked up the company and it’s literally all founded by ex elite Mossad agents. This tells me we are sending all of our source code to Israel for them to actually scrutinize for exploits; not that this would have much value for them, but given enough clients they’ll find someone who has something of actual value.
You want real security? Don’t store any PII, ever, do immutable infrastructure, and focus more on detecting breaches.
Time was I have a shit about soc2 when buying software. Now that I’ve been through the process it’s utterly meaningless to me…
Interesting post.
I found that Akamai is a full-on mossad agency too. They were selling a microssegmentation tool which would send data to Israel.
How do I get a high paying pen test job? I have CompTIA PenTest+ and CEH but employers don’t seem to care
Should I pay some pajeet to take the OSCP exam for me and write a fake resume with a years experience?
Let’s buy the scripts and market it to companies
>How do I get a high paying pen test job?
step 1) apply
step 2) interview
step 3) negotiate
that's it, there are no more steps.
show up, don't suck, and have a reasonable expectation for salary.
i don't care if you have a degree or certs if you can't do shit.
>the people with the skills you are talking about aren't applying
implying they would even take actual people with skill, if they even employ and it is not just some fake vacancy that gets filled internally. Current German job market is just a huge circlejerk full of nepotism and incompetence. And then they wonder why our economy is slowly dying...
>it's a meme job
no, it's not. it's a real job where you have to do real job things.
>muh scripts!
sure sure... no one is going to pay you for that.
they pay you for the report that you write up at the end detailing what you found and what your recommendations are.
>muh scripts
it's all it is, you're not hiring an elite haxxor, it's just scriptkiddies with their playbooks to rewrite scripts output into a word document and ask for 50k plus tip, the whole secbusiness is like that
its a scam that adds 0 value to any enterprise
What exactly will I be penetrating?
depends on what gender accepts the offer
From my personal experience, pen testers are very likely to be genderfluid with “programming socks”, into dragon dilds, and using arch Linux.
so, you met... one weirdo one time
grats
you're retarded
What kind of "personal experience" have you had with them that ended up with you discovering their dragon dildos?
all genders means ass penetration. they will penetrate your ass. Did not apply because not a homosexual.
I pen test all genders already. why would i do it for the govt. thats just gay.
This is like 60k gross (theoretical).
From there you have like a ton of deductions and hidden costs.
The tl;dr is you end up with 1.000,- € net a month or 50,- € net a day for 60k in Germany.
Which is not attractive given that you work 30-40h a week somewhere while you could just neet full time for like half that money
>Taxmany
60k a year will leave you as an unmarried single with around 3.1k net income per month (37.2k net per year).
Are you high? 60k gross is 3k net per month as a single
You won't attract any decent hackers with that pay, without good hacking knowledge a penetration tester is useless.
>Why didnt you apply for this job yet?
Because pentester is not a job you do for the corporation
You go freelance and get the contrat first hand instead of getting israeliteed by the middle man israelite
I remember thinking I’d found my path. Pentest anon was great. It’s just so gay
Because I get 185k/yr doing it remotely in USA
I work about 10 minutes a day
those jobs are hard to get hell most jobs on stepstone are hard to get I tried it with a bunch and despite having a good degree they won't take you despite those jobs being very easy anyone could do. Makes me wonder if those are fake jobs.
they're jobs for the owners friends and family while one competent professional does all the real work
After a certain point, excessive taxation dissolves the incentives to apply yourself and get a high paying job. In Germany, a 100k a year(extremely high wage in Germany btw, like top 5%, which is already laughable) codemonkey hardly has more purchasing power than an immigrant berry picker.
Currently there's a rising issue that some of our promising youths exploit government 0% loans and welfare to study by just chaining degrees and never actually getting a job. Why get a job and get taxed 50%+ when you could just get your life payed for by taking easy uni courses and spend all your free time at parties.
>penetration tester
>(all genders)
more like dilator.
>(all genders)
Dumb virtue signal, I'm pretty confident that it's illegal in Germany too to hire people based on their gender in the first place.
>Why didnt you apply for this job yet?
i don't want to be penetrated.