Why didn't they turn into a Celtic Netherlands? They were in a prime position to explore and settle the new world

Why didn't they turn into a Celtic Netherlands? They were in a prime position to explore and settle the new world

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    celtoid = moronic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fpbp
      Celts haven't done anything of relevance in all of their history. Every person of note from a Celtic country was actually from a Germanic ruling caste such as the Normans, Anglo-Saxons, or Franks. The Irish in particular have done nothing but starve and drink in their whole history.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the celts were in the most perfect position to explore the americas, greenland, and iceland

        they never visited any of them except as captives in germanic ships

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papar

          That isn't eniltirely true. A handful of celts who wanted to live on their own in the wilderness settled Iceland before the Norsemen.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            it's mythology and these are christian monks who are mentioned centuries after the norse first explored iceland

            not the original celtics who inhabited the british isles

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the british isles

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        80% of germanic accomplishments were by men with great celtic admixture.
        All scientific and artistic accomplishment by Germany, England, Belgium and the Netherlands were by half celts

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >celtic admicture
          Lmao this dude seriously believes there is something like a real celtic genetic group.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            there is, moron

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not really. At most the Celtiberians but most of the Northern celts are pretty much identical to the Germanic people of their time.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >muh all blonde poeple are the same
            >muh germany is pure germanic
            mutt education

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            People of the celtic la tene culture which later became the Hallstatt culture which is the major ''celtic'' genetic part of the Germans literally fall around the clusters of modern day England and Sweden while being quite different from celts in southern France who where closer to the Celtiberians. So yeah seeing them as a non Germanic genetic group makes no sense. Thinking that Celts were one group is peak mutt education

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >So yeah seeing them as a non Germanic genetic group makes no sense. Thinking that Celts were one group is peak mutt education
            so Germanics are all one group but celts are not sure...Compare average svede to some bavarian unless you are dumb you will literally see facial difference body difference etc.They even have different halpogroups.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Belgae
          >Celts
          There is not a shred of evidence to suggest this, it's just assumed due to proximity.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            phenotypically, Belgians do differ from Dutch
            and while I'm sure they are germanic, there is definitely less blonde hair there

            and yes I know germanic = blonde isn't entirely correct but you can't deny the correlation

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Flemish descends disproportionately from the Franks settled there by the Romans in the late period, hence their language. That doesn't say anything about the Belgae proper.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            There is archealogical evidence of celtic languages having been spoken in the Belgae region.
            Also the fact that Flemish are predominantly descended from the Franks kind of implies the Belgae to be largely celtic if you accept the premise that less blonde hair in Belgium compared to Netherlands = more celtic admixture

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's rather that the Franks having less EEF admixture resulted in a fairness difference with the Roman population, itself composed of Celts and whoever inhabited there before them. The phenotypical gradient in Europe really depends on how much EEF and how much ANE/WHG admixture there is.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I've heard somebody claim this before but by that logic Scots should have more fair hair.
            I'm not saying you're wrong, just that nobody has ever given me a source for that claim

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            WHG were blackies they actually darkened southern European EEF compared to Anatolians

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >phenotypically, Belgians do differ from Dutch
            Not that much. If you look at the genetics of the Netherlands and Belgium what you see is just a gradient which continues up untill the Walloon border. The further North the more Frisian/Danish admixture there is and the Further south the more Frankish and Rhineland Germanic.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Not that much. If you look at the genetics of the Netherlands and Belgium what you see is just a gradient which continues up untill the Walloon border.
            There is NO walloon genetic border, this is a lie. Why are you saying that? You sound like a flemish/dutch with an agenda.
            Flemish and Walloons belong to the same cluster while north dutch are far away towards the danes and scots.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >There is NO walloon genetic border, this is a lie. Why are you saying that
            because there is. Sure they belong overall to the same cluster because the genetic difference is incredibly small. But the difference between especially the southern Dutch and the northern Flemish it is basically none. If you look purely at the differences between Walloons and Felmish with the exception of Brussels you can see a pretty clear border between them. Also like I said there is a gradient of Frisian/Danish influence which doesn't just stop at the Dutch border but goes into Flanders as well. It is only at Wallonia where this admixture starts to drastically decrease.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >If you look purely at the differences between Walloons and Felmish with the exception of Brussels you can see a pretty clear border between them.
            you are talking about a political border

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Which coincides pretty well with a genetic border like it often does

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            no genetic borders betweeen flemish and walloons, there is no reason to be; haplogroup distribution is roughly the same, and they cluster closely; simply because they share the same history.
            In the benelux the only genetic border is the Rhine.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Y-DNA
            my god a moron in the wild.
            Here is some actual autosomal DNA study showing there is a fairly clear border between Flanders and Wallonia

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            My god you are the moron

            I posted the Y DNA distribution because I lost the PCA showing walloons and flemish cluster close together in the european scale, so I can't show it right now. but you are showing me a PCA in the context of BELGIUM
            I know that study, the scale of your map is the scale of Belgium, and they are conform to the geographical distance and it says that the difference within Belgium are smaller than within any other european countries.

            Basically your PCA is a very small scale PCA that confirm that Walloons and Flemish cluster close together

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            that's not the PCA i was looking for but here it is
            Netherlands Utrecht and the likes are far away

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Gaelic is from Belgium

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Do you mean the word Gaelic? Gaelic is just a different way of saying Gaullic. It has nothing to do with the Belgae.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Are you talking about the theory of the Belgae speaking some third non-celtic non-germanic language or are you talking about something different?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They were finnish.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Scottish and Welsh people have significantly punched well above their weight class in terms of contributions to the British empire and to science and inventions.
        Also, most Englishmen are majority Celtic by admixture.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Also most Englishmen are majority maternally Celtic and paternally Germanic by admixture
          FTFY

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Every person of note from a Celtic country was actually from a Germanic ruling caste such as the Normans, Anglo-Saxons, or Franks
        pure bullshit celts actually had civilization germanics were savages.Compare achievements of countries with celts like britain lover germany france with scandinavia its a no contest.Scandinavian achievements can be sumed up as viking raiding + ikea.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >First post is racialist cope
      Average IQ on this board really has gone down

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Race doesn't exist ya chud and there are a lot more Black folk in Ireland. Anyways, Celtoids are moronic by their identity/culture alone and history proves this over a 2000 year period of decline.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fpbp
      Celts haven't done anything of relevance in all of their history. Every person of note from a Celtic country was actually from a Germanic ruling caste such as the Normans, Anglo-Saxons, or Franks. The Irish in particular have done nothing but starve and drink in their whole history.

      Ancient Celts were more advanced than ancient Germanics and gave the Romans swords and chain mail.
      English reached their golden age under the rule of the Welsh Tudors.
      All the great germanic-speaking peoples are mostly Celtic genetically.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        La Tene weren't ancestors of French. Even ancient samples from Romania are genetically close to French because they are a fairly pure EEF+Steppe mix.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >gave the Romans swords
        greeks did that and used swords before celts
        >chain mail
        etruscans did that and used chainmail before celts
        >English reached their golden age under the rule of the Welsh Tudors.
        absolutely not their rule finished in 1600

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Also Washington was celtic paternally and the most relevant ancient germanics (Franks) were the most celtic.

        >gave the Romans swords
        greeks did that and used swords before celts
        >chain mail
        etruscans did that and used chainmail before celts
        >English reached their golden age under the rule of the Welsh Tudors.
        absolutely not their rule finished in 1600

        >greeks did that and used swords before celts
        Gladius was from celtiberians.
        >used chainmail before celts
        Source?
        >absolutely not
        Under the Tudors, English ceased to be irrelevant Black folk and gave birth to Shakespeare and many other great men.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Gladius
          it's based on the xiphos and the romans had swords before they used it
          >Source
          celts adopted chainmail 400-300 years after it was used by etruscans
          >Under the Tudors, English ceased to be irrelevant Black folk
          they were irrelevant until the 18th century long after tudors died out
          >and gave birth to Shakespeare and many other great men.
          such as?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >pic
        Are English people more genetically similar to the Celts than the Scots, Welsh, and Irish are?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's just an extremely bad graph. The la tene weren't a unified group with north and south French being quite different the North were basically the same as Germanics

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Ancient Celts were more advanced than ancient Germanics and gave the Romans swords and chain mail.
          English reached their golden age under the rule of the Welsh Tudors.
          All the great germanic-speaking peoples are mostly Celtic genetically.

          that graph is utter bullshit. Don't bother
          that guy is a celtic we wuzzer who spams who shit all over IQfy

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Annexion by the French between the late 15th and early 16th centuries.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Dutch became what they had because they were at the mouth of the Rhine and controlled much of western Germany's trade, not because they established colonies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much.

      80% of germanic accomplishments were by men with great celtic admixture.
      All scientific and artistic accomplishment by Germany, England, Belgium and the Netherlands were by half celts

      All of those nations have significant celtic admixture so yes. Duh.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >They were in a prime position to explore and settle the new world
    The dutch did none of that, it was the spaniards and portuguese.
    By the way Jacques Cartier explored and named Canada, he was born in Bretagne.
    So yeah, your post is shit and moronic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. The guy who started the colonization of Canada and gave it its name was Breton. Plenty of French sailors were (and still are) of Breton origin.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Robert Surcouf was an important Breton privateer
        but I guess Bretagne was constantly nibbled by France which was a Tellurocratic power.
        If the Netherlands was constantly brought back to the continent by Germany, it wouldn't have been as succesful as a sea power.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bretons provided many explorators, corsaires and sailors to France, they're still the number 1 region of recruitment for the french navy.
    Other than that it's was a relatively poor land of farmers and fishermen until recently, excentered from the European heartland and lacked an industrial bourgeoisie (the class that turns a country rich).

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >They were in a prime position
    They had been annexed a final time a fair bit before the New world was ever discovered or people started colonizing Asia. After that they basically were tied to what France was doing.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is Joyce the first "great" Irishman?
    I think they also had the mathematician who invented/discovered Quaternions
    Can't think of any remarkable Irishman before them, perhaps Malthus but I think he must have been of Anglo ancestry, he wasn't a Catholic Priest

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Joyce wasn't great, he was a literal fart sniffer who wrote pretentious drivel. No hate towards the Irish, but your """""national writer""""" is a hack

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I refuse to read ulysses or infinite jest because my first impression of those books was that they would ber extremely pointless thinsg to read and are only popular among the type of people who would have told you they had read I, libertine and enjoyed it very much in 1955.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Agreed. DFW, Joyce, and Pynchon are the three meme authors in IQfycore. Everything else I've read from it ranges from good to excellent

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Is Yeats not the """national writer"""?

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >downloads transparent png as jpg screenshot
    >why does everyone call IQfy reddit?

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The Low Countries had extremely good arable land, which allowed their populaion to boom, which in turn encouraged overseas expeditions. They were also on a fantastic position, holding the keys to several trade routes.
    Brittany was (and is) very geographically isolated and far from any kind of economic activity, and because its land is poor, one of the poorest in France, its population always remained rather low. Plus, France annexed it.
    They still made up a large portion of French colonists in North America.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Brittany's soil is poor, and even in the Middle Ages the population of the Netherlands was many times bigger. This is like asking why Sardinia or Gotland never became independent naval powers. Also, the fact that Brittany's only neighbour was the way more powerful kingdom of France didn't bode well for their prospect of independence.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They were the French people who settled the new world alongside Basques and Aquitaine people.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How did Germanic people become such a pest upon Europe anyway?
    They didn't do anything at all before like 200 BC
    Also is German autism really caused by minor Germanic admixture? Average German is like 1/4 Germanic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >sense blood in the water
      >cimp out
      Gradually they mutted and bled themselves into military weakness so they now use more subversive tactics like the EU to do it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Also is German autism really caused by minor Germanic admixture
      its due to history.Germany killed off anyone who was willd and unpredictable in 100 year wars.Then it favored craftsmanship and pedantic stuff.Then Prussia came and made them militaristic.All combined gives a reason why germans are the way they are mentally.

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