why did they genocide the natives instead of just intermarrying with them like the Spanish and Portuguese?
why did they genocide the natives instead of just intermarrying with them like the Spanish and Portuguese?
why did they genocide the natives instead of just intermarrying with them like the Spanish and Portuguese?
They didn't want their free labor
Are we not supposed to notice that Spain led overseas imperialism and was the first to collapse as a result of its mixing?
>collapse as a result of its mixing?
Never happened.
nah, spain just took literally all of the gold and silver.
They collapsed because the got politically and economically outclassed by the French and the Brits.
Because they died of European diseases more easily so they were not a feasible slave force. It’s also why Africans were enslaved in America.
They did.
Most native Americans have substantial white blood but continental America was sparsely populated by them so you don't see millions of mestizos like in Mexico where there were millions of natives in the southern regions. This is why northern Mexicans tend to be castizo or fully Iberian. Most Maoris have substantial white blood also, it was a small population and small landmass. There are millions of coloreds in South Africa. Abos were also few and sparsely populated but there are many mixed ones. And India also had Anglo-Indians but there were millions of Indians versus few Anglo empire administrators.
INSULAR ETHNOCENTRICISM AUGMENTED BY THE IDIOTIC SECTARIANISM OF «PROTESTANTISM».
Mexican shitskin you will never be White or Spanish.
They were more interested in just off loading their population and extracting wealth. A lot of people in Spain, especially women, would not go to the Spanish colonies because they didn’t offer much so the ones who did were encouraged to have families with the natives and, if they weren’t already, convert them to Catholicism. As others pointed out, they did still mix but not on such a large scale.
>North America
The Amerindians in British North America differed greatly from those conquered by Spain. The areas conquered by Spain had settled societies with far higher populations, in spite of the spread of disease, which though it made them weaker and still wiped out a significant fraction, didn't utterly devastate them to the point of the nomads which the British fought. Moreover, the kind of colonists differed. Where Spain sent young men to conquer and subjugate the areas, and then brought families, the British more or less showed up with women together, and built settlements along areas of vast wilderness, suffering from nomadic raids, and not actually subjugating the natives. In this way, Spain behaved more like Rome in conquering and integrating territories, whereas Britain behaved more like the Ancient Greek polities in establishing new cities across the Mediterranean, and expanding into the hinterland, mostly displacing natives. That said, a great number of Amerindians did integrate into British areas, but were sorta bred out.
>Australasia
The highest estimates for Australian Aboriginals prior to Cook barely reach 1mil, with most agreeing on ~750k, centred on the South-East along the Murray. With the introduction of disease around Sydney Cove (and possibly in Arnham Land from the Makassans), the population was halved. Moreover, they were similiarly displaced since there was nothing to conquer. That said, British men would often have relations with Aboriginal women, and the half-castes were somewhat integrated, with the belief they could be bred out.
In NZ, Maori are ~45% European, and became fairly well integrated. However, the Maori their own version of the one-drop-rule, where anyone with a drop of Maori blood, is seen as fully Maori, thereby differing in their own identification.
British settlement wasn't high in other parts of Oceania to make enough of an impact.
>Asia & Africa
Disease didn't do shit and populations were too high to have a meaningful impact. Either way, you still got more Cape Coloureds, as well as Anglo-Indians, and Anglo-Burmese. You just didn't get large numbers of settlers though since more went to the Settler Colonies (later Dominions) as opposed to the Imperial ones like India or Malaya.
>Caribbean
Most were run as giant slave plantations with the natives already gone. British settlement was connected only in as much as how many were needed to control the slaves. Some undesirables were sent there too.
The Belgians really do not get enough shit for the evil stuff they did in Africa.
It was a different time
Still, that country is sleazy.
Among all the colonists they were the most fucked up.
Then they fucked France in 1940 by turning Neutral.
Right now their main economy is prostitution as far as I know.
Really troubling.
And if you keep whining about it we’ll do it again.
Belgium is a fake country
Thanks Satan we know, Belgium is an administrative fiction from 1830.
I disagree. If there's one country that doesn't get shit in enough for colonial barbarism in Africa is Germany.
Tell me more sempaichi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Namaqua_genocide?wprov=sfla1
>chimp out and kill some people in some tribal raid thing
>omg wtf why arent they allowing us to take ze water bwaaah
they got their repairations already, an eye for an eye
Germans robbed their land and raped their women
the native were genocided, they were just too little in numbers
>why did they genocide the natives instead of just intermarrying with them like the Spanish and Portuguese?
Lol Brazil has about as many natives as the US. There was no 'genocide' in either. Both were underpopulated by barely agrarian tribal peoples that's why there was room for massive migration as well as demand for negro laborers. The reason spanish america in the andes and mexico still has a lot more natives and no negroes is because there were large settled populations by the time conquistadores arrived, no need to import negroes.
The Spanish and Portuguese did genocide some indigenous tribes like the Taino.
Fuck racemixing you cringe spic mutt
Southern america would be a paradise if they genocided the natives
Is USA a paradise?
it would be if the spainish genocided their natives
you will never have a real ethnostate
They refused to fuck the natives…but had no problem mixing with black slaves. Whitebros?
That's not true at all. Mixing with Blacks was more common only because there were more Blacks than natives in most English colonies.
Completely different methods and goals of colonization.
The Spanish and Portuguese Americas were treated as being no different than any other old world conquest. The Iberians simply rolled in, conquered as if they were still reconquista'ing back home, and transplanted the feudal system to rule over it. In this situation you don't want to kill all the natives for the same reason they didn't kill all the peasants back in Europe. Because if you're setting yourself up as a feudal lord, you need downtrodden masses to work the fields while you sit back and relax.
English colonialism was a wholly different enterprise. It was first and foremost an economic venture run by Britains merchants and independent yeoman farmers rather than Iberia's petty knights and unemployed soldiers. The goal was to extract resources, not set up an old world fiefdom. And when you don't have feudalism you don't need peasants so there was no reason to spare the natives.
Some people did, Which is why we're having a abo rights referendum rn where the leading voices are all fuckers with blond-hair and blue-eyes and a israeli-Filipino Hapa [Not a joke] calling themselves Oogaboogorui people who need their own special reserved chamber of parliament.
We have a lot of white looking native groups here in Canada because of intermarriage.
Natives are literally fucking retarded and ugly. Their idea of being successful is scamming the government and the Vatican. Here in Canada, we still haven't found any "child graves".
That being said, I have had sex with at least three, they are wild in the sack, but again, literally retarded, and generally rude and uncouth.
I smoked weed with this native girl on the greyhound, and she rambled on about finding herself spiritually, and proceeded to give me a hand job. Another time, I found this native chick crouched over and crying, because apparently she was lost. So I brought her back to my house to use the phone (this was before cellphones became popular). She went white as a ghost and started passing out, so I gave her water and told her to lay down. When she awoke, she produced a crack-pipe from her purse, took a huge hit, then looked at me and screamed "FUCK ME IN THE ASS." I proceeded to do so.
Another time, I met this native girl threw church, and invited her and her cousin over to watch a movie. About half way through the movie, one started kissing me, and her cousin started giving me a handjob. Later that week, I creampied her while at her house, then ate dinner with her family like an hour later.
One of my ex-wives was half native, her only concern was, penis, and getting more money from the government so she could purchase cigarettes.
I will tell you this straight up, they are retarded, horny, and crazy. They are better off dead, but since that's illegal, it's better to cream-pie them.
I hope this post was insightful and helpful, as well as eluminating. Going to go jerk off now, which is sometimes difficult, because I am very old, and most of my arteries have hardened, from all the cigarettes and meth.
Be sure to read your bible.
Native south american were naturally more submissive and innocent than native north americans. Colonists in USA and Canada rarely had as cozy relationships as the portuguese had with their indjuns
this but more because mexico and peru were already at peak civilization and organizationally on par and even surpassing the rest of the world, so it was easy for both groups to accept eachother. And also north america just had so much less people and not even because of disease it just wasn't that big to even be able to force farming and feudalism. Still there could have been a better aproach.
ie it is easy to take power when the king of the land already commands so much power, just become the king. They also legitemized through old tradition and symbols, mixing themsleves with the indian history.
...if you ask me, what cortez really did to win mexico was humiliate the royal family, the people lost faith in them and eventually respected the new kings, as usual.
They did. Thats actually the main reason why theres so few natives in america the whole genocide thing was hogwash especially when you consider how few wars there actually were and the fact that the entire tribe didn't just die after a war, and there was no real extermination campaign like the holocaust.
Forgot to mention that native american genes are more prevalent now than they were in their day they're just stuck inside white people so no one notices.
that just implies rape.
The main interest of foreign colonies for the British were entirely subservient micro states that mirror their own that only exist to be taxed. Spanish didn't give a shit about taxes, they wanted immediate massive return on investment through conquering fourth world empires and stealing anything of worth.
When the British first arrived in India they established free trade ports much like the US after them. The gist of it is that these "factories" or trade cities were much the same sort of economic magnet as roman cities without the need of killing and enslaving the natives. When the East India company tried to fuck around with territory in Myanmar and Bengal because they didn't want to pay 1.5% more taxes they were attacked by the entire empire of India (after they tried to block their ports).
Much friendlier, dealing with more developed empires. The Catholic Church would have demanded conversion through conquest
When you conquer a stratified agricultural society with a numerous population, you just co-opt their power structures and make them work for you (Central Mexico, Peru, India)
When you conquer a sparsely populated land inhabited by egalitarian nomadic or seminomadic people you drive them away and fight them (North America, Australia, Northern Mexico, Argentina, Brazil)
It's no coincidence that it is in the southern states where the Indians had more advanced societies also where you find more mixing between whites and natives.
Spain and Portugal genocided the natives more, they were just bigger in number in their colonies than they were in North America and Australia.