What was their fucking problem? When did they start the rivalry?
Why did the IJA and IJN hate each other?
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>Army (Shogunate) speak French and German
>Navy (Imperialist) speak English
>Interservice rivalries are exclusive to the Japanese military
They are Japs. It's like Daimyos acting petty all over again.
Remind me the odd rivalry during Imjin War.
Separate leaders competing for glory and separate budgets and limited resources they both needed.
>he Meiji Restoration saw the foundation of a modern army and navy for Japan. Many of the senior officers in the Imperial Japanese Army were natives of Choshu, and this lead to tensions with the Imperial Japanese Navy, where men from Satsuma occupied the top jobs. The two domains had a long traditional enmity, and this continued as a not-so-covert struggle for dominance in Japanese affairs between the Army and the Navy. Favouritism in both services made sure that men of Choshu and Satsuma were usually favoured for promotion in the services, further entrenching the rivalry. This was to have profound consequences for Japanese politics, diplomacy, and even the course of the Second World War. Well before then, however, the situation became so bad that Army officers from regions other than Choshu actually formed a secret society, the Double Leaf Society, to root out “corrupt” officers. Their fanaticism, and the fanaticism of other secret groups, also spilled out into wider politics.
beat me to it anon, was just reading about it for the first time a few days ago
huh til. I assumed that regional rivalries were a problem that plagued the late qing which played a key role in their defeat to japan which didn't have these problems. but I guess japan still had these regionalist tensions, just not really intra-service at that time, whereas china's beiyang fleet was rendered almost dysfunctional during combat due to min, yue, sichuan, northerners etc not getting along and refusing orders
they were cunts
>Aussie = real cunts
Was this rivalry between IJA and IJN even real? Where can I read about this?
The Japanese Land forces had their own Airforce/Navy while the Navy's support was minimal at best and absent at worst with stories like the Naval Air Arm leaving the Land forces on their own instead of supporting them
I distinctly remember an anon pointing out that their rivalry started off early during the Meiji Era with the Chosu/Satsuma forming the predecessor to the Imperial Army like what
said but as time passed on, the Army grew more radical as those who joined came from poorer backgrounds along with the Officer Corps being exposed to different ideologies that helped formulate Japan's idea of Militarism compared to the Navy
>The Japanese Land forces had their own Airforce/Navy
That's how it worked back then. Some countries didn't have an independent air force. The US didn't have an air force either and army and navy both had their own air power.
That's just a meme. IJA had support ships just like every army then and now.
>That's just a meme. IJA had support ships just like every army then and now.
Not so much as a meme when the IJA were building their own Navies. They even got as far as creating Submarines and Landing Ships/Carrier Hybrids like the Akitsu Maru Class and the Maruyu Submarines
>The US didn't have an air force either and army and navy both had their own air power.
Both air forces worked differently from each other with the Air Service supporting ground troopers and the Naval Air Arm in charge of long range bombing campaigns
>transport submarines and landing ships
Yeah they had support ships, exactly like I said, and exactly like the US army does today.
There was definitely rivalry between the branches but pointing to the IJA having boats like some indisputable proof is just parading your ignorance of how the military works.
>Both air forces worked differently from each other with the Air Service supporting ground troopers and the Naval Air Arm in charge of long range bombing campaigns
Yeah and that's how it worked for the US armed forces. They were in different branches, independent from each other and did not work together.
So what makes the IJA/N special enough to be a case study for Interservice Rivalry compared to the US where its the norm
It's not. The interservice rivalry is memed because people want to believe that the reason Japan lost was because of their incorrect mindset, not because they were a pre-industrial country without a working economy.
Japan 1941: countdown to infamy by Eri Hotta is very good.