Why did so many people leave the countryside for industrial jobs during the 19th century?

Why did so many people leave the countryside for industrial jobs during the 19th century? Was farming really that bad that people picked up everything to move to the city and become factory workers?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is a third way!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

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    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

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    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      A daring synthesis.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it varies per country, but I heard in the US that large landowners were just outcompeting family farms, so the only option left was factory worker.

    I would like more details as well because it’s shockingly hard to find a straight answer on google.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I would like more details as well because it’s shockingly hard to find a straight answer on google.
      Crop prices collapsed due to mechanization so small farms could not make enough money to buy supplies from cities. This also affected Russia at the time of the Holodomor and these Stalinist reforms, one way or another these farmers had to leave for cities and be replaced with tractors

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Was farming really that bad
    More like the traditionally comfy pre-modern farming jobs were disappearing. You have to keep in mind that European agrobusiness progressed in leaps during that time with cheap American and Russian wheat flooding the market, mechanization gaining traction and of course the image of the libertine city was still very popular if you wanted to run away.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can't keep up with wealthy landowners
    >take out a predatory loan from a israelite
    >lose everything you have
    >forced to slave away in some butthole's steel mill

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >so many people leave the countryside for industrial jobs during the 19th century?
    Wrong except in maybe Britain. Rural population didn't decrease. What happened was rapid economic and population growth. Not enough land for all these new subjects to be peasants. Many found jobs in cities. Others only found a livelihood in overseas north america.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    mechanical efficiency replaced the farmer, food farmers could no longer raise large families on modest farmsteads while competing with the whole of the US thanks to the interconnectivity caused by rail. The women, who would sometimes make clothes or sell eggs and butter for more money were out of work too, eggs and butter and milk were sold cheaply and clothes were all made in factories. If they wanted to make money on the side they had to move into town, and many did.

    When industrialization first started in river mills women were essentially sent they and watched like hawks at church camp so they didn't misbehave

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >food farmers could no longer raise large families on modest farmsteads while competing with the whole of the US thanks to the interconnectivity caused by rail
      This sounds familiar...

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mechanical efficiency replaced the farmer
      Mechanical farming didn't apprear until the late 1800s

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >late 19th century
        The cotton gin was invented in 1794.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >uhh bro
          People still used horses for ploughing when ww1 began

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its a gradual process moron

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            plows were considered by many to be futuristic, there was actually a large degree of classism for those who still hoed their crops vs people that plowed

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            also northern europeans were really late on plow uptake because nobody invented a plow that could get through heavy wet northern european soils

            early plows in the 1700's still sucked because the soil stuck to the plow and the animals couldn't pull it, by the end of the 1700's the english suggested makign the entire thing out of cast iron so it could slide better, but peasants were superstitious and thought cast iron poisoned the soil.

            It was the americans that invented the high efficiency plow, and where John Deere got its name, the first Deere's were blacksmiths. He discovered in order to till the soil in Illinois it took an EIGHT OXEN TEAM

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Crop prices were dropping with mechanization but also most peasants just got kicked out of their land or were unable to make it because of overpopulation.
    The collapse in crop prices accelerated since the 1850s onwards.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No Capitalism happened, a minority of farmers contributed more than most rural peasants so rurals were basically irrelavent

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's for this band https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taake

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Agricultural_Revolution
    Massive increases in productivity per worker meant that there was less work in the rural areas, promoting movement to the cities.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same, it's infantilizing and that's just not my fantasy.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weak people happened. They were colonized by ZOG and made to leave their comfy village and go work in a factory shithole via money semantics. If they were brave and self-reliant (like you should be in the countryside) and a bit of a fight that money semantics would have no power and life would go on as normal. But they didnt cause they were weak and cowardly and so they were colonized by ZOG.

    You can see it in their decendants, the boomers, who are utter subhuman scum, cowardly stupid unfit etc. Thankfully boomers got mass cucked by chad and so the disgenic wave is dissapearing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      In America most farmers didn't live in villages, they lived in solitary farm houses located in their field.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Farmers are subhuman scum. They are the lowest of the urbanite race sent in the outskirts of their territory (urban centers) to work and feed the rest of the urbanite race. Countryside doesnt automatically equal farmers, in fact Id say the two have nothing to do with each other and they are just near each other location-wise.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is really moronic cope

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go ask your boomer mother if the slum of a city you live in was a village when she was young. I bet she will tell you "teehee yes it was" oblivious to the fact that she and her peers fricked everything up because she is a braindead boomer.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the dysgenic wave is disappearing
          Take your meds.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its true. For exmple If you exclude boomers from obesity stats then stats drop exponentially. That bloated pregnant belly that "male" boomers have is not gonna exist in the future.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have been in (and live) in third world cluntry farms. Farming life is hard, and i mean teally hard, harder than first world farming. Yes there id a lot of good to the culture around it it but that doesnt mean it isn't hard labor, and the areas wjth it dont have much opportunity for growth. Im not surprised in the past farmers chose cities, especially once mass farming came into the picture.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Farming life is hard, and i mean teally hard, harder than first world farming.
      Explain what is hard. You mean they dont have machinery and their plots are therefore small and they have to work fields too large for manual cultivation unless you put in 16 hours?
      Did i get it right?
      The normal response to that challenge is farm consolidation following by mechanization and migration to cities. Then theres the German model where every farming village also has industry so you dont have to leave

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Almost everything is a "thing" a whole process. You want water, you need to get your supplies ready to get water and get your water container and get two people to bring on enough water this is a constant thing probably done at leat twice a day, difficulty depends where the river is, the river could also be far away or downhill/uphill from where you live.

        You want clothes? Either have to make it yourself or go far away to a specialized clothing shop. Where i lived there was commerce popping up so things where somewhat easier in that regard.

        Every meal is full work, even starting up the kicthen is a process, so you normally have to feed it some kindle throughout the day so starting up the fire is easier. Cooking of course takes longer, prepping materials are done constantly because you can't save it up.

        Materials, all materials need to be fresh because food storage is very very hard. Meaning every other day you have to go collect vegetables etc, another process itself.

        Traveling. A whole thing, if you need to go from village to village you jeed to get supplies ready and plan ahead. The horses, the water, lanterns, food, road you will take. Thankfully the area i was in was not known to be dangerous byt at one point it had been, i knew tales of people being robbed in the road years before.

        Supplies. Everything was important, your flashlight was a super important tool not easily replaces. You had to count your batteries, you had to xount your kerosene for your lamp. Lot of AAs tho because people liked listening to little radios they owned. Sometimes to save on kerosene we would use makeshift torches if we had to walk around at night.

        There is a lot more, it was an amazing experience I wouldnt change it. But when i hear people talk about how old farming life was so much better i know they have no point of reference for how hard true old farming could be. They image old days as some idyllic thing. People leave for a reason.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You want clothes? Either have to make it yourself or go far away to a specialized clothing shop.
          What does that have to do with farming?

          >Every meal is full work, even starting up the kicthen is a process,
          Not farming

          >Materials, all materials need to be fresh because food storage is very very hard
          Materials=food? What he frick are you even trying to say?

          >Traveling. A whole thing, if you need to go from village to village you jeed to get supplies ready and plan ahead.
          How is this related to farming?

          >Supplies. Everything was important, your flashlight was a super important tool not easily replaces
          How the frick is this about farming?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          People get mad when they hear this sort of thing because you're right, it's that they have no frame of reference and they have this idyllic picture in their mind of what life used to be and when you tell them otherwise, especially when it's via your first hand experience, you see how mad they get

          >You want clothes? Either have to make it yourself or go far away to a specialized clothing shop.
          What does that have to do with farming?

          >Every meal is full work, even starting up the kicthen is a process,
          Not farming

          >Materials, all materials need to be fresh because food storage is very very hard
          Materials=food? What he frick are you even trying to say?

          >Traveling. A whole thing, if you need to go from village to village you jeed to get supplies ready and plan ahead.
          How is this related to farming?

          >Supplies. Everything was important, your flashlight was a super important tool not easily replaces
          How the frick is this about farming?

          .

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't. Frick off troll.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ok go push a plow then
        Then seed the sod
        Then water it with no running water for months

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >this is HARD WORK!
          You must be ethnically israeli

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first people to suffer imperialism and suffer under the boot of gutless European bourgeois devils were the European peasants. They too were dragged kicking and screaming out of their traditional ways of life into modernity. They were the prototype for Africa and Asia.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It paid more.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They had their lands enclosed on them or were outcompeted by large plantation owners.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Labour saving devices made it easier to do the work of many labourers, with fewer people, here's an interview with quite an old man made in 1965:

    Naturally, if you need fewer labourers to do the same amount of work, the people who are no longer needed are either going to need to find some other work, or starve, and hey, turns out the cities have work creating things like those labour saving devices.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >le milk posing
    > is enough to gather an army of poltard simps
    Why are right wing chuds so impressionable and low iq?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      She married an american israelite and has been recorded mocking her own chud army

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based trad appreciator, israelites keep winning. Why they always get the best women?

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Inheritance customs meant than being a city industrial worker was more appealing to a second sons than being a propertyless farmshand with no chance to ever marry.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ram Ranch

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pre-modern agriculture is a nightmare lifestyle

    People didn’t migrate to the cities because farm life was wonderful

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pre-modern agriculture is a nightmare lifestyle
      It was comfy. People migrated because modernity made their lifestyle obsolete, it wasnt that cities were better but farms got much worse.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They migrated because they were removed by the government deliberately
      It was the most brutal abuse against common people since Augustus in Rome

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Security. Wagecucking a hell of a lot more stable than managing your own farm, especially if it's a relatively small family farm. A corporate farm can eat the loss of having a few thousand acres of corn destroyed by fungus or disease or a few hundred cows dying from some cause or another, a farmer who owns maybe 400 acres is completely ruined if he loses 300 acres of corn to fungus or 20 cows to predators and disease. A wagecuck being part of the system that can eat losses gets the intrinsic stability with it and even if the company he works for goes under it's a lot easier to go to another factory and get a new job than to try and raise the capital to buy dozens of livestock or hire labourers for another season with little to no income.

    At the end of the day the vast majority of people will prefer security to autonomy. Hell look at all the people b***hing about "muh peasants lived better than modern people." How many of them are moving hundreds of miles to buy cheap arable land and have their own homestead? In the modern world such financial transactions are practically trivially easy, but most people would rather continue working at McDonalds while dreaming of owning a small farm than take the risk of starting their own farm, even though so many social programs exist that even if you fail miserably you won't starve to death because it turned out reading one book on homesteading isn't enough education to run a 100 acre farm.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fake and unsupported fiction. Nothing you wrote has anything to do with real life or any records or natural patterns of human behavior. You literally made it up because it sounds reasonable in your mind

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        ever heard about such things like famines, droughts and floods? They have far greater impact at rural than urban population. When you live in the city and got hungry you could simply import food from abroad, if you in village it was not such simple thing and this changed only with mechanized agriculture era

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          But before the mechanized agriculture era most people still lived in villages, funny that

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah and they migrated because mechanized agriculture gave far higher crops but also demanded much less workforce. They would end not having a job and up drinking themselves to death if they remained in their trad villages

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, so, what do floods and droughts have to do with it when it was tractors that did it?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >When you live in the city and got hungry you could simply import food from abroad,
          Jesus Christ, like just call uber eats? Idiot

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The only pre industrial city that could "just import" food from remote regions was Rome and it had 2% of the entire empire population at its service. Every other city lived from nearby fields.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The rural areas were systemicaly pauperised and the people migrated to the citties just to find work to feed themselves
      Basicaly, the exact opposite of what sayd, people were forced by changing economic and social conditions to leave the relative existential safety of theyr rural communities to work for spare change in factories and mines, this as large capital forced itself into rural life and completely overturned how things were done and who owned what, banks and similar financial structures did theyr part it empoverishing the majority that was then forced to sell land and livestock
      In socialist countries the same proces was simply state mandated and occured even faster after that point

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s that they were getting chased out and losing all their money. Big ag would outcompete them for produce sales, they’d have to sell the farms, etc

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    farm work paid like absolute shit
    if you didn’t own a farm yourself pretty much anything paid better than being a farmhand

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is true. Unless they are giving you a roof over your head for free with all the utilities and you have more than ample time to get another job its not worth it.

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