Why did maoris retained their culture to a decent extent after mixing with anglos but latin americans didn't retained many aspects of their nativ...

Why did maoris retained their culture to a decent extent after mixing with anglos but latin americans didn't retained many aspects of their native traditions?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    A friend of mine once made a funny analogy comparing anglo and spanish colonial mentality.
    Anglos gave a "blackpill" mentality to all of their subjects: "we are different and you will never be us nor will we ever be you" thus, either their subjects decided they wanted to die or they developed a mentality of you-or-me. Most inclined to the later and reafirmated their native identity.
    Spanish colonialism is more on "you are wrong, but if you try hard enough you can be right (like us)": which made of their subjects self-hating and gave them the false hope that if they tried hard enough and self-destroyed everything tying them to their native identity they could someday be like their massa.

    Anglos started with an ultimatum, that tiggered the survival instinct of their colonial subjects.
    Spaniards just poisoned them with a false hope that made them self hating.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Spaniards just poisoned them with a false hope that made them self hating.
      Hilarious that hundreds of years later they're still self hating

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are onto something.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He is. Even other powers used variations of the Iberian style with some changes here and there based on the location in question outside of the New World colonies

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    British colonialism vs Spanish colonialism
    Compare Philippines vs other Southeast Asian countries for example

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      pinoys were always disconected from the rest of SEA though, indons and malaysians are sisterx nations and filipinos are the third wheel on the wagon as they were never muslim nor very conected to anyone there

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look at Australia, Aboriginals were near 100% genocide, Tasmanian Aboriginals were 100% genocided and Aboriginal culture, language, history was systematically erased until the 1970s.
      British were extremely brutal when they felt like it, and in Australia, where British interests were run by merchantalist/Early Capitalist monopolies, they absolutely were.

      https://i.imgur.com/w8zm3AN.jpg

      Why did maoris retained their culture to a decent extent after mixing with anglos but latin americans didn't retained many aspects of their native traditions?

      >Why did maoris retained their culture
      Maori had a clan system near identical to Scottish Clan system which made dealing with them quite easy for the British, Many major Maori clans also supported colonisation as they saw it as a way to getting access to the British imperial supply chain, better weapons etc so generally had good relations with the Colonists. When the British decided to overstep their boundaries, Maori were extremely quick to organise a resistance that was very tactically successful (Maori pretty much invented "modern" trench warfare) and because NZ was literally on the other side of the earth from the UK, the UK couldn't support the British colonists war efforts well.
      That said, Maori also went through the same trials and tribulations as Native Americans with forced "assimilation".
      Maori culture that we see today, is actually largely due to a successful "revival" from the 1970s onwards. This is why older Maori usually can't speak Te Reo since they were raised under assimilation, while Younger Maori can.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    African americans are not native to america, they were brought in a ship and were of different part of african with no ties.

    All the more african americans developed a stronger, more diferentiated, unique culture from white americans than latin americans from spain.
    Even if they ddin't retained their culture from a continent they dont inhabit anymroe (this is not parallel with natives at all) they developed an entirely new one on opposition

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Not at all, african americans coexist with americans and created a new whole cultural tradition, a particular dialect with a particular accent, particular diets, particular music (rap, hip hop, jazz, soul, blues), particular identity, particular social norms, hell, they even made their own religions.
    Even if african americans were imported from other continent from unrelated countries with unrelated cultures they eventually developed an entirely new culture and unique identity appart from white americans DESPITE living as a minority within their society.

    African americans don't want to be white, african americans self-perceive as black and try to elevate their blackness.
    If you go to bolivia you'll see pure amerindian people that spent the last 400 years isolated in a mountain with barely any contact with the colonial world pretending they are of european descent and denying their purely indigenous roots.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you go to bolivia you'll see pure amerindian people that spent the last 400 years isolated in a mountain with barely any contact with the colonial world pretending they are of european descent and denying their purely indigenous roots.
      proof?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go search for any racial census in latin america. 65% of bolivia self perceives as mestizo while 75% of their genome is native

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t even have to go that far south, talk to a Guatemalan and time how long it takes for them to start shit talking about their native ancestors.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        LMAO just speak to any “mestizo” in south america

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you fucking kidding me? We have a fucking aquiline nosed spic beaner here with skin the color of shit constantly spamming about PLVS VLTRA VIVA ESPAÑA.

        It doesn't help that he openly mocks and berates the pre-Columbian natives, even though his cuck ass would've been a second class citizen in New Spain based purely on his looks.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they look kind of white when most people in that part of the world look either like chinks or abbos?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are Jomons

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they've all got a white ancestor somewhere in the mix.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      because they are half anglo

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      maoris are range from 40% to 55% british ancestry in average

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whiter than most American “whites”

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >La Raza"
    Meaningless term that I have only ever heard on radio shows. Stop getting your retarded views from /misc/.
    >and Azteca pride
    Yeah bro a few soccer jerseys with a sunstone on it and fat roasties dancing in pigeon feathers is totally comparable to the extent to which natives elsewhere have preserved their actual culture.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    this people living in america often defines themselves in opposition to american white identity, in fact, there is a study confirming that when they arrive the big majority of latinos self-perceives as white hispanic, but eventually stop doing so after noticing they are not perceived as such by white americans.
    most latin americans internalized the desire of being white

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