why did he hate stoics? i don't understand the difference between what he prescribes to people for life and what stoics say.
im a brainlet and want to be a contrarian towards all the npc's getting into watered down stoicism now.
why did he hate stoics?
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It's pretty explicitly stated in that one aphorism at the beginning of BGE. They're being dishonest with themselves when they state that their philosophy is based on nature rather than them projecting onto nature their own desires. "Every philosophy is a desire of the heart sifted and made abstract" or something.
Nietzsche on the passions and self-cultivation: contra the Stoics and Spinoza
By Keith Ansell-Pearson
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357005175_Nietzsche_on_the_passions_and_self-cultivation_contra_the_Stoics_and_Spinoza
>Although the literature on Nietzsche is now voluminous one area where there has surprisingly been very little research concerns Nietzsche on the passions. This essay aims to correct this neglect. My focus is on illuminating Nietzsche on the passions in relation to his primary teaching on self-cultivation. To illuminate his position, I focus attention on examining his relation to Stoic teaching on the passions. If for Nietzsche the Christian mind-set involves a disturbing pathological excess of feeling, the Stoic way of living results for him in a petrified of life devoid of movement and growth. After a consideration of his relation to Stoic teaching I then examine his relation to Spinoza on the emotions or affects. Whilst I acknowledge the affinities between the two thinkers and their criticisms of Stoic teaching, I maintain that it is an error to seek to construe Nietzsche and Spinoza as having an identical teaching on the passions. In the final section of the essay, I provide an appreciation of Nietzsche’s recommendation that instead of demonising the passions in the manner of the Christian psyche and its legacy, or extirpating our passions as recommended by the Stoics, we need to learn how to transform them into joys or delights.
Same reason he hates chrustfags: they are life-denying
this. He did like Seneca though. Moreso as a man than a philosopher
because stoics think everything is in its right possition because of natural-schematic-order, and Nietzsche thinks order has to be created and schematics is for slaves that don't create the order schematics replicate.
>creates schematic used for literal millennia
>SLAVES!!!!
>why did he hate stoics?
If the stoics of the past are anything like today's internet stoics than I understand him. E-stoics are some of the cringiest and dumbest people you can find online.
Also I recently stopped believing in freewill, there's too many outside factors beyond my command so I kind of understand stoicism but I also don't think there's absolutely no freedom so we must do what we can to improve whenever possible.
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It's usually the other way around misspelling this
Congratulations, you're that special kind of stupid
Found the braindead e-stoic projecting his stupidity on those who make typos.
Stay dumb and stay mad.
I’ve really enjoyed Nietzsche and his works but sometimes the only type of man I can respect is the stoic. I’ve seen too many childish “men” who all they know is impotent rage at even the most minor things.
Because they're pussies. If Uncle Patrician tells little Marcus to take it up the ass, you take it and tell him how grateful you are in your little pillow diary. Fuck you pussies, you'll be grateful for it
Maybe actually read the Nietz., the explanation is in every fucking line. Love of life, not sufferance.
Instead you should compose and perform an opera about the assrape that ends with your ritual suicide.
He doesnt hate them. He criticizes them for their lack of intellectual honesty in the opening pages of BGE, but he later in the same book calls himself and his followers "the last stoics". He takes a lot from the stoics: amor fati, the idea that perception defines our understanding of reality (perspectivism), the pathos of duty and responsibility, the ideas about self-control, hardness and yes, the ideal of living according to nature (even if nature is now understood as will to power).
From what I know about stoics and Neitzsche (which is a surface level grasping of their ideas without reading either in depth), one point of disagreement I believe is Neitzsche emphasizes his perceived importance of both feeling and acting on anger while the stoics urge people to resist anger, and not to act on it, for the benefit of themselves and others.
Nietzsche doesn’t believe in acting like a retard, don’t get it twisted. Nietzsche is still about self control at the end of the day.
Anger is a healthy emotion. If expressing your anger makes you look like a retard it's not the fault of the emotion.