Why did he do it? He basically debunked everything he spent his life writing about.
Why did he do it? He basically debunked everything he spent his life writing about.
Why did he do it? He basically debunked everything he spent his life writing about.
muh depression
Depression is real, anon. It isn't fun.
Why was he selfish?
Maybe? Idk
He let his dogs eat food out of his mouth. He said it was like they were kissing him
>He let his dogs eat food out of his mouth
I thought it was just the Canadians and not all the white people.
it's all women
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and ive actually been to mclean for similar reasons as mister wallace here. i don't really get his whole project because i haven't read ij or anything, but the guy makes me sick, really. he reminds me of the worst traits of myself. i wish he never committed suicide because then i'd never have to hear or think about it ever. but yeah basically he didn't believe in his own message and is a hypocrite for offing himself yada yada
Well I mean did he have a publicly stated reason for doing it? Did he go "my entire moral philosophy was wrong and therefore I must throw myself onto the sword "? Or was it just that he stopped taking his antidepressants and naturally got depressed again? I mean come on, he even went through electroconvulsive therapy. He just had a bad brain disease that had nothing to do with anything, not his writing or morals or whatever.
he didn't have a "bad brain disease;" he knew too much and was too privileged. a spiritual sickness, essentially. granted, it would have taken a miracle for somebody like him to not kill himself. nietzsche too is somebody, like him, who would have done himself had nature not gotten to him first.
>he knew too much and was too privileged.
What does that even mean? Does knowledge or privilege somehow stop disease? Why did Steve Jobs die of cancer? Do you just think depression is spiritual and not medical?
Ecclesiastes 1:18
im saying if he was a retard instead of a real smart dude or if he had to work a job (not larping a job) he wouldnt have done it
also adding to this i would say universally only the privileged (intelligence or birth status) know spiritual suffering. suffering like "i work 60 hour weeks because i didnt graduate high school" or "im a slave" isn't going to make you commit suicide. the underprivileged do sometimes commit suicide but it's usually because their sports team lost or something lol
He realised he had nothing interesting to say and that he was a selfish cunt.
Infinite Jest is about not suicideing?
doesnt he know hes gonna get dog hair and germs all over his shirt?
I love how people with OCD live their whole life with this huge filter in front of their eyes and can only see germs in any situation, but then convince themselves they are in the right and even superior.
>yeah but if I follow my rituals and spend 5 hours a day thinking about cleanliness them I'm good bro, it's not a mental disease
It only gets worse and worse and you'll just lose all your friends and any positive future prospects.
The world will just be a germ and disease risk and you'll stay in bed all day.
I wonder who read Kate Gompert's character pre-2008 and thought that this wasn't a guy who was very capable of killing himself.
Do you think Kate isn't a realistic portrait of major depression?
I'm saying I think she is a realistic depiction. As someone who's reading IJ in 2023, knowing DFW killed himself, it seems like almost obvious. I don't know if people reading it in 1996 felt like that, but I can't see how they would not.
DFW is the usual atheist who loves sex and strives to build a narrative where is isn't a piece of shit. Turns out atheism is is inherently nihilistic and they took power precisely by relativism.
He was a lot of things but was never an atheist.
When you remove the nonsense and entertainment what’s left is the reality of existing. Let me have my stupid copes, we are lucky that reality isn’t boring like in Schopenhauer’s time.
Imposter syndrome. His demeanor, his works especially that The Good Old Neon story hint heavily at it.
He was actually to intelligent for his own good. Clinical depressive who over intellectualizes everything is just a toxic mix. Ironically he probably would've lived longer if he just kept smoking and binge drinking while watching TV all day.
>Ironically he probably would've lived longer if he just kept smoking and binge drinking while watching TV all day.
Actually true, i know it's not just me, we all humans are addicts, it may be a natural thing. You can genuinely escape from it but it creates mental diseases so i guess it is not worth it. I wont check my grammar and spelling, sorry
Off by a mile. His biggest problem in life was being an athletic Midwestern American Chad born with a petty neurotic israeli brain.
That doesnt mean anything
Why are you on a board about literature when you lack basic reading comprehension
It is like saying "you are a Tartarian neo-potato with a green glass eye but a turning nose". Does that mean anything? No
What does your soīboy non sequiter have to do with an accurate description of DFWs background and mental illness.
I was only criticizing the way you make descriptions, that has nothing to do with dfw. So ill stop talking about it
Most likely his suicide was a side effect of his medication. His meds were known to cause a will to terminate ones life when the medication ended. I know that since a friend jumped in front of an incoming subway but survived. DFW took the same anti depressants. Story is surpressed thought but not unheard of. All the pseuds in the thread can go and fuck themselves
name of the demapping meds?
>Story is surpressed
Don’t be a midwit, it’s literally in an article in one of the most largest magazines in america
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/03/09/the-unfinished
dumb wording of me, story isn't surpressed but willfully neglected for editorial purpose as you see in the thread
he has a good quote about if you aren't worshipping god, as an athiest, you will ultimately worship something and it will eat you alive. i think his personal search for meaning tied with his medication caused him to end it all.
>He basically debunked everything he spent his life writing about.
You either have never read DFW or (probable and) are a moron, nothing he wrote goes against suicide. If you really wanted to take a suicide centric view of his writing then it would be that suicide is a given, a certain number of people are going to kill themselves and this points to a larger problem. But he is really more about the larger problem and suicide is just one of the many ways those problems manifest themselves.
Good post. I assume addiction falls into that larger problem as well.
Would you say the short story "Forever Overhead" is related to all this (if you've read it)? Or something thematically different?
Suicide and addiction are both symptoms.
I do not remember much from Forever Overhead, been about 20 years since I read Brief Interviews. One of these days I will get around to rereading it.
He didn't debunk shit. He just killed himself. It's that simple. Stop reading random shit into everything.
>Why did he do it? He basically debunked everything he spent his life writing about.
Oh no, how will he ever live this down?