Why did a lot of respected at the time Indie Rock age so terribly? Posted on May 20, 2023 by Anonymous Why did a lot of respected at the time Indie Rock age so terribly?
Should have specifically stated albums from around the 2000’s or a decade ago.
idk because I was always confused as to why people liked it in the first place, it is the sonic equivalent of Michael Sera
respected =/= hyped
I can't think of too many things more numale (using that term cause of when this came out) than "My breakup is like dying of cancer". ...Hey, wait a minute
>Set in New York City's Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
>On the morning of 19 May 2023, at the age of 59, Andy Rourke died from pancreatic cancer at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
Its more enjoyable if you just take it at face value as a story about a cancer grill.
This album was always overrated. Everyone still loves fleet foxes
There was this collective sense of grief looming over us in the wake of 9/11. It felt like a 10 year moment of silence. We wanted to distance art from sex and violence, that was now mainsteam. Modesty was chic, humility had appeal, tenderness was the appeal.
I miss when this actually elicited something. Sigur Ros, Stars of the Lid, The Album Leaf, it felt like a the first soft art music that was missing until that turned into sadgirl indie
>There was this collective sense of grief looming over us in the wake of 9/11. It felt like a 10 year moment of silence.
Get a load of this revisionist bunk ... this nation didn't start shaping up and flying right until Obama's 1st term.
2001-2007 was an absolute hedonist paradise –– sheer bacchanalia. New York City itself was celebrating an American League pennant for the Yankees and inventing "indie sleaze" as we know it even as soon as October 2001.
Stop the cope.
there's just something so insufferable about this generation of indie i cant place my finger on
i recently went through a breakup and decided to give this a relisten and enjoyed it. i even revisited vampire weekend for nostalgias sake and really enjoyed it too. but underneath it all theres this air of insufferablity. its self indulgent. it sniffs its own farts. its whack and corny.
that's called being insecure, self hating and afraid of sincerity
the age of irony was a vile poison
once Indie became self-aware and middle class it became shit. you can't change my mind
my brain fucking read this as "once India became self-aware"
when that happens it will shake the world
Indians were the first people to become self-aware
if you were you wouldn't be talking in the third person rajesh
the indo-aryans have zero resemblance to the modern pooinloo
They didn't age terribly.
You grew up and realized they weren't that great in the first place.
Some of us are smart enough to know when something is being pushed by the hype machine.
Some of us don't get caught up in it.
Because we're soooooo coooooool.
The so1 boy meme, I'm not even joking.
It's unbearably white
What type of indie? It’s a frustratingly broad genre
>a lot of respected at the time Indie Rock age so terribly
'cause most of them was sanitized-safe music aimed to please everyone. what do you expect when mediocre acts like national, arcade fire, mac dmarco and the like get hyped? no surprise that kind of "indie" is dead
Cool to hate disco in the 90s, cool to hate 80's music in the 2000's (should still be to some extent tbh), cool to hate 2000's indie now. At this point, I think it's been cool to hate longer than it was cool at all.
14th post best post
it wasn't that respected at the time
as much as it was, it was ITAOTS psychodrama with Radiohead sounds. so that seemed good on paper. weepy "cathartic" music was at an all-time high, people unironically loved Sigur Ros, it was a thing
>it wasn't that respected at the time
>with Radiohead sounds
it sounds nothing like radiohead
well you're too young to have been there, whereas I'm not, so I remember that lots of people thought it was shit
>it sounds nothing like radiohead
please do not participate in this conversation if you're a zoomer who doesn't know what pre-Radiohead rock sounded like
Modest mouse is still killing it
This album was shit. Too reliant on emotional gimmicks and conveying a certain atmosphere/aesthetic rather than strong songwriting
that antlers album is the sadness equivalent of the aristocrats joke. trying so hard to be sad that it feels disingenuous and forced.
I feel that way about Mount Eerie and A Crow Looked At Me.
Honestly I don't even like Carrie & Lowell that much. They're not musically interesting enough, and rely too much on the lyrics, but the lyrics are not that great either.
it's a good album
the problem with this was it didn't really have the songs. the concept was well executed and it flows well as an album, but none of the songs really stick with you or stand out, outside of the concept its bland folk.
bear is a pretty good track. wish the entire album sounded like that.
we needed "authenticity" and folk music and guitars and "good" lyrics directly after rap-rock/alt-rock/boy bands that we millennials listened to in the late 1990s.
Thus we tried out indie rock that - which wasn't a bad idea but the authenticity and good lyrics shifted towards pretentiousness and sentimentality too often. Other times because alt-rock like Papa Roach or some shit was so annoyingly "honest" and embarrassing indie fell into a too-cool standoffish phase.
None of this makes sense now for music.
what's the way forward now, sensei?
if you're old like me I don't have the energy or desire to keep up with new music, which means checking a few times a week for new albums.
somehow it became acceptable for adults to listen to what is supposed to be tween music the last few years bellie eilish, taylor swift, ariana grande, even lana del rey etc. Now that seems to be shifting. I feel entirely stuck. can't go forward can't go back.
Now it's moved too far in the other direction, as a reaction against the sincerity of the millennials the 10s were full of "post-irony", "self awareness" and cheap revivalism/fetishism of the past. Whatever we have next needs to be a repudiation of all of that.
take the ambientpill and don't look back.
Pitchfork's brand of hype: more articulate, longer write-ups, idiosyncratic rating (8.2 etc) gave these bands a momentary layer of credibility they never had, though they're not necessarily shitty. Compared to current-day abysmal state of pop music, Dirty Projectors or Cults or Beach House still seem a much better listening alternative though.
its your own fault for consuming that kind of independent music and ignoring(?) the other types of independent music
This album aged a lot better than a lot of the dogshit indie rock from the 90s-10s.
My most hated indie bands:
Waaves were pretty good ngl.
>My most hated indie bands:
I think a better question is why a lit of very not respected at the time Nu Metal age relatively well. Most Ots Rock aged horribly so having more Ots Rock which aged horribly doesn't exactly surprise anyone.
lol i can't believe i pretended to like that album. who was i kidding? its trash!
be careful 'cause some halfwit will call you "contrarian" for it
Lol came here to say the same thing. Back then I was a young chap and an older lady recommended it to me, i heard it and adopted the sad indie post rock kid persona. Good thing Mac Demarco came up a few years later.
Unrionically pretending to like anything is weak male shit.
I’m a tranny
Official Antlers Ranking
>I Was Not There/Rains
>Green to Gold
All of them very good except for (together)
Because no one is shilling it anymore