Why cant a new pagan religion be made?


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Why can’t a new pagan religion be made? I think the idea that religions are only legitimate if they were made up before the enlightenment/scientific revolution is kind of silly because it’s basically just proving atheists right. I think saying that neo-pagans can be nothing but larpers casts a huge shadow of doubt over all religions, because unless magic, miracles and gods existed 2000 yr ago but not now for some reason, all major religions are just larp sessions that only derive legitimacy from being old and their origins not being able to be scientifically scrutinized. I see a ton of Christians accuse neo-pagans of LARP and to me they just sound like atheists. It would be way smarter to call neo-pagans demon worshippers or something.

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >What is wicca

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >didn't read
      the post is an argument against those that claim wicca and neopagans to be just larpers because they don't have 'muh continuous unbroken tradition' or because 'they aren't doing/interpreting things exactly the way people did in antiquity'

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Wiccans, ridiculous as It may sounds, do some Magic already

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Not pagan

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They've tried many different times, but the Divine has moved past pagan days.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Well it would have to have a charismatic founder. A Zarathusta. Someone who preaches to the masses and gains a following and starts a new religion. Someone who has had a divine revelation by new beings (or atleast someone who can convince others he has a divine mandate) otherwise i could just make up new gods and a new religion but that wouldn't mean anything.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Well it would have to have a charismatic founder.
      why ?

      >Someone who preaches to the masses
      why the needy preaching and proselytism ?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Christian , bet on it

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Christian , bet on it

        You know to spread the new religion? Every time in history a new religion showed up they somehow had to gain followers. Joseph Smith. Mani, Mohammed, Hong Xiuquan.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Wicca started kinda private

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but it is not really a organized religion and extremly fringe. I doubt it will ever gain a large enough following to be taken seriously. I think it would even be more likley if new age ufo cults became bigger. I think stuff like Theosophy and Thelema are better examples of new religions appearing than Wicca.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Believers dont need the approval of outsiders, anon

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Sure and that's fine. I thought you were more in the line of a new religion rising to compete with the old ones. If fringe stuff is fine Thelehma, Wicca and Theosophy is a perfect example of new religions rising.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              that's just an appeal to popularity and saying that the model of organized religion is the only valid one for spirituality

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Teosophy is just second hand superficial readinga of actual religious texts

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            same with thelema and the other neo-pagans groups

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        But are you retarded? If you are op... you ask why new religions aren't made. It's because no one is making them... then you ask why there needs to be someone making them... obviously things don't happen out of nowhere. They need someone. A creator. Almost as if... God exists and no thing can come from nothing

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >larpers competing
    There's a reason why truth is impopular

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Wicca is an attempt at that. Gardnerian Wicca is some silly feminist nonsense though.

    The reality is, there aren't really any new Gods to find. The Pagan religions built around local deities and practices, and were more or less standardized as various cultures spread and became influential.

    A religion needs some kind of deity and associated rituals and practices, and a cult built around it. Sure, you could make shit up and create a new concept of deity, but if you know you're making it up, what's the fucking point?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >there aren't really any new Gods to find.
      so you think

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >religions are only legitimate if they were made up
    Wrong. Nobody claims this.
    धर्मं तु साक्षात् भगवात् प्रणीतं
    Dharmam tu sakshat bhagavat pranitam
    Religion must come directly from God
    The living tradition is necessary to defend the original teachings and prevent them getting distorted. Time is a constant. And there's always heretics and unbelievers ready to attack and doubt

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      that's retarded and assumes that there was just one religion in the past, that people in the past got everything right, that the traditionTM and """original""" teachings are worthy something and that people can't get in contact with the spiritual/divine
      there's no reason for anyone to take the traditionalist school of though seriously

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >that's retarded
        You are retarded

        >there was just one religion in the past, that people in the past got everything right
        Yes

        >people can't get in contact with the spiritual/divine
        You obviously can't. But you see, the methods are there for everyone to learn. You just wouldn't be willing to do what it takes, as evidenced by your knee jerk reaction to reject the tradition, proving what i just said. You just want to be the god of your own religion and there's no reason to take your kind seriously

      • 1 week ago
        sage

        it is if you go far enough back wich most dont even consider. before vedic and before paganisms there was a true religion.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    time of miracles is over

  8. 1 week ago
    sage

    read principia discordia

  9. 1 week ago
    Borderlands

    I agree worship the totally new and most power full god borderlands .I have murdered all the old gods and am now your ruler. I will show my mercy by allowing you to drowned your self in your toilet .rgnra

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If you actually believe in a pagan god or doctrine or spiritual practice, then it doesn't matter if it is "legitimate" because that's just democratic bullshit consensus searching.

    Believe what you believe and convince other people to believe in it too and now you have a new religion.

    I worship the Aryan Dawn Goddess, Hausos, whom I equate with the Vedic Ushas, the Greek Eos, and the Nordic Freya, and whom I address as the Goddess Lucifer. I don't do it because it's popular or because it's seen as legitimate. I do it because I believe.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Goddess Lucifer
      Lucifer is a dude and in Norse paganism, he was called Ljósálfar

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This is why there is a big debate happening in “traditional pagan” circles - the need of a priestly lineage and divine initiation, which is causing some to look east to the vedic traditions. Paganism as it exists now will never survive or grow to be influential, it’s too confused, too focused on idenitity politics, it needs a core group of priest-prophet type figures to emerge and guide it on the right path, with or without vedic guidance. If even such a great teacher were to emerge I doubt anyone would even take him seriously in this spiteful era

    And I can already hear the vikingbros whining about how we don’t need a savior - maybe not, but influential teachers aren’t foreign to pagan beliefs, like Apollonius, Hermes Trismegistus, Plato, Pythagoras, Zalmoxis maybe, the druids, and others

  12. 1 week ago
    Sean

    Just start being Pagan. I currently use Santa, Mrs. Klaus, Jesus, Nobody, Jack Frost, Lizard People, Zombie Doctor, and Shub-Niggurath.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >lizard people
      >Jesus

      Be gone Gnostic

      • 1 week ago
        Sean

        Why did you only pick out the israeli ones?

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They arent demonworshippers tho, theyre larpers. They dont worship the demons, they worship teir own ideas and give them the names of fallen angels like odin or thor.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      kill yourself

  15. 1 week ago
    sage

    i made my own religion of the gamer because life is a game the entire universe is a game
    https://shithole.neocities.org/way

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The only future for alternative spirituality is chaos magic

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      kill yourself

  17. 1 week ago
    sage

    https://vjmpublishing.nz/?p=22822
    you guys might like to read this book elemental elementalism. its on the right track for sure

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