Why boymode?

I don't understand taking estrogen, then looking masculine? Why don't you want to look feminine? Why take HRT?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because it doesn't happen instantly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its called "transition" for a reason. its a gradual change

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, so you're saying you'll live girlmode when you physically change? What happens if you don't change much? Is it a gamble?

          What do you think of those who don't prioritize passing? Who prioritize living as female more than passing?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            HRT treats (read: quiets or silences) the dysphoria for many of us. Depends on the person but passing may not be necessary if HRT takes care of the sensation of dysphoria for us (many may intentionally take a low dose of HRT to minimize secondary effects but have the mental support if they're for whatever unable or unwilling to come out).

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's interesting. Makes the cognitive dissonance between your self-image and your essence seem less deleterious

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because living fully as female doesnt depend only on you, it depends on other people too. whats the point of dressing as a woman when hrt changes havent set in and youll just be misgendered over and over again??? its pointless. you'll just fail, get sadder and wish to give up

            and its not about safety or being harassed. im brazillian and unless you live in a generally dangerous place youll be fine. ive seen many gay guys just being super feminine in clothing and they never had issues. the other day a bi classmate of mine went out with a skirt in a very crowded festival here. no issues. i could do that too, but i would feel terrible because feminine clothing would accentuate whats male about my body, which would bother me *a lot*. until the changes set in for me ill just let my hair grow out, take care of my nails, wear earrings. when they set in, ill gradually start using the right clothes and name. this is about being smart too. do things at the right time because transitioning socially depends on other people too. they wont take you seriously if your body still hasnt feminized. if simply not being judged is enough for you, thats good. to me its not, i want people to see and believe in me as i am, but that surely wont happen while i still look like a boy

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I chadmode. I don't pass.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they want the side effects of estrogen but dont want to give up the privilege of being seen as male. some of them secretly want to be trans age and not transgender and they think hrt reverses aging

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's something I never considered take the estrogen for bodily and psychic effects. Not want the gender role of a female

      >be trans age

      I had trouble wi what you mean, you mean age transition?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How many transwomen have you talked to? You certainly aren't yourself. Points for creativity but we're well aware that we may lose privlidge and even may put our personal safety on the line for being seen as not-a-man (however our victimizers might see us).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I agree with most you're saying. I don't agree with the amount of danger you assume being clocked. I think that's a LULZ meme.
        I've been out and obvious. Believe me, they laugh and tease, but they don't try to hurt me

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Believe me, they laugh and tease
          Well, maybe you can believe that some people would prefer to avoid that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's what I'm struggling to understand?
            The pleasure being yourself and seeing yourself in the mirror wouldn't be stronger than your emotional reaction to a little sarcasm?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              For me, I’d probably just feel disappointed and distraught that I didn’t pass if I tried something like that. I think it wouldn’t be the most unfair thing to say that boymoding is a pretty cowardly way of going about transitioning, though some might say it’s more akin to caution.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guess I can understand but I can't feel it.
                I hated being socially a boy, started dressing as a teen, now most people think I'm a female. The really interesting part is people don't really don't care. They don't see me as threatening a harmful. Most women are quite accepting and men are more avoidant and think it's a weakness. Again, most people don't know.

              • 2 weeks ago
                it is over (repressor, honorary)

                its always the youngshit passoids who are this dense and act like everyone can make it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well in fairness, I think most boymoders would probably present female if they thought they would pass while doing so. I can understand that some of us prefer to present female even if they don’t pass, and given that they go about this with some tact I respect that, but for some of us I think there’s a lot of internal shame that comes from being visibly trans. Mind you, I feel like some boymoder could do a bit more to work towards passing, namely voice training. I cringe every time I see a story about some boymoder who instantly changes the gender people perceive them as from female to male just by talking. As a boymoder myself, I’ve done some rudimentary voice training to get an androgynous voice and just a few days ago, I was able to hold a conversation with someone and only realized he thought I was a woman when near the end of it he said I should be a model. Of course, malefailing can be inconsistent, but having a good voice can really tip the scales in your favour and it annoys me every time I see someone here say that it’s “too hard.”

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I looked at what some say about voice training. I don't know if I naturally do it; I just never really tried to train my voice. I guess if I was hiding behind the door someone hearing me might think I'm older. Sometimes, if I'm really tired, my voice might sound like an adolescent boy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Link me a guide to voice training then, anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it worked easily for me so it MUST work for everyone else just as easily
                at this point i'm sure you're just bait for bitterhons

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't say it works for everybody easy
                I don't think it's really based on looks; I think it's based on mental attitude.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i am a trans girl and the hate i get as a girlmoder is something boymoders will never know

        That's something I never considered take the estrogen for bodily and psychic effects. Not want the gender role of a female

        >be trans age

        I had trouble wi what you mean, you mean age transition?

        i mean these boymoders want to be young forever and think estrogen can do that

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the hate i get as a girlmoder is something boymoders will never know

          You're so close to understanding why people boymode

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I still don't understand the significance of being a boymoder? Why not just express yourself as a female and not worry about it? Girlmode would be less outrageous than a feminine male. Male image is more reactive and upsetting

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you can only pass as male, boymoding is the only reasonable option for your mental health and those around you

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't understand? It's like saying don't transition then? So boymoder then are men who take estrogen because of their own personal reasons

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Boymoders still plan (or hope) to improve in the future. They may just be waiting for FFS, or some other significant change. Eventually, they will allow themselves be seen as women when they're ready.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope so it's going to be a lot easier than you imagine. Most of you seem more afraid being seen as trans than ordinary people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's going to be a lot easier than you imagine

                Yeahhh, I've been on HRT for 4 years and still can't pass. Hopefully FFS will help

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope so too.
                I get the feeling many of you would pass, yet you have a very negative attitude about men who feel like women?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Men who feel like women? What do you mean by that? Boymoders are women who (may) look like men and pretend to be men.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there are women who look really ugly, maybe had been in a bad accident and they just get used to it, somehow?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're not making any sense, sorry

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was never about being ugly/attractive, it's about passing

                I wasn't trying to infer that you were ugly. I was giving you example of women who aren't unattractive but yet go on as women.

                I know you thinking, I wasn't born a woman. Proves my point it's mental.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one would ever think unattractive cis woman aren't women??

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think you're too focused on the idea that if somebody might think you're male it makes you evil. Most people don't dwell that much. Some insecure men care about it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you really don't get it, huh? The point of boymoding is to make people think you're male.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was never about being ugly/attractive, it's about passing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i boymode because if i tried to girlmode i'd look like a man in a dress. as a result i would get bullied and harassed for being a hon.
                so instead, i present male for the time being (to prevent being bullied and harassed as best i can), and hope that my hrt, laser sessions and workout routine will eventually help me look fem enough to girlmode one day.
                but until that day comes, the best i can do is either boymode or honmode. i choose boymode.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >result i would get bullied and harassed for being a hon.

                This is mostly a made-up meme, unless you mean cat calls?
                People very rarely touch strangers and hitting a person in public would be very rare

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe not where you live ig, i saw on the news a tranny got gunned down in the fucking street in my city a few weeks ago lol
                besides i'd still get referred to as a male in social situations for sure.
                and even if folk didn't bother me, it would still make me feel awful knowing for certain i don't pass while skinwalking around in women's clothing.
                boymoding is comfortable and people don't automatically know i'm a tranny when they meet me. i'll take it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It just seems sad to me because it would break my heart to have to live any longer as a male. It's like living as another species.

                I know some people have bad attitudes about being female especially if they had the choice not to. As you know it's not really a choice?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                idk i'll admit i have some pretty nasty brainworms personally. it's hard to see myself as a woman mentally despite wanting to be one.
                in a weird way i have an odd sense of pride in covering up the little femininity that i have. probably what's left from my old repper mindset ig.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think you might be like me; however, like me feeling ashamed of myself for being like a girl and not a boy?
                I did feel embarrassed about it when I was around 12 and 13 but I just got past it somehow?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Less about looking masc, more about preference for a tomboy-aesthetic, or just being more neutral as opposed to dressing feminine while being self conscious about being passing or not.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It certainly can be for an aesthetic but please know that this isnt the whole picture for most of us. Dysphoria is very much a thing, however mild it may be for some (too often it's depicted as only being extremes).

  5. 2 weeks ago
    it is over (repressor, honorary)

    >go on hrt
    >nothing happens
    >have to endure this anons stupid fucking questions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you stop it you don't like the effect? You're contradicting the other anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        it is over (repressor, honorary)

        >Why would you stop it you don't like the effect?
        what the fuck are you talking about? god i hate ESLs.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not esl you have limited reading skills

          You don't look feminine

          • 2 weeks ago
            it is over (repressor, honorary)

            >Why would you stop it you don't like the effect?
            >Not esl you have limited reading skills
            ???
            >You don't look feminine
            thats true, so why should i stop boymoding?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >reading ability
              >needs all punctuation

              you just look like a regular guy to me?

              • 2 weeks ago
                it is over (repressor, honorary)

                explain what the fuck this sentence is supposed to mean
                >Why would you stop it you don't like the effect?

                >you just look like a regular guy to me?
                thats not me in the pic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would you stop it?
                > you don't like the effect?

                If you still can't read it, I'll assume extreme youth and lack of education

                Why would you show a pic of somebody else?
                You strike me as a very straight young male

              • 2 weeks ago
                it is over (repressor, honorary)

                why are you assuming i stopped taking it?
                >Why would you show a pic of somebody else?
                this is an imageboard and ill post whatever i like
                >You strike me as a very straight young male
                thanks, i do my best

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're an unhappy guy, aren't you? Your transition didn't work and you don't want to be a guy, but you're stuck being a man

              • 2 weeks ago
                it is over (repressor, honorary)

                yes, i thought that much is obvious

                You haven't even laser or even let hour hair grow long.

                again, thats not my picture you retard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aren't you esl? Tbf you are good at it though

          • 2 weeks ago
            it is over (repressor, honorary)

            yes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You haven't even laser or even let hour hair grow long.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because not everybody can be open about stuff especially when they stay want to be around their family..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wdum

      >they stay want to be around their family.

      They stay around their family?

      Still don't understand? you want to take estrogen, not live as a female. You like estrogen for body effect?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because being a boymoder is about public safety, plus I think I look better as an andro twink and I don't voice train or know make-up enough to look like a cute girl and I'm too autistic to seem feminine.

    so aside from having C to D cups I don't really have much of a chance to seem super femme

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >about public safety

      That's a LULZ meme

      Nobody's going to hurt you for dressing feminine, unless you look like a 6 ft tall masculine man and drag

      I go out in public all the time, wearing a dress and I've never taken HRT

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm just naturally paranoid and got bullied a lot as a kid, and I was in a place where getting slurs yelled at me was able to happen

        also you doing it and nothing happening is evidence of nothing cause you could be in cali or somewhere kek

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe help you with your confidence by hearing I live as female full-time. Haven't started HRT. I live in a small conservative southern town. Most close friends know my past and don't care cuz I'm a nice person.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well you look like a girl anyway

      Maybe help you with your confidence by hearing I live as female full-time. Haven't started HRT. I live in a small conservative southern town. Most close friends know my past and don't care cuz I'm a nice person.

      I did this for over a year pre HRT also in a small southern conservative town and nothing happened. Used female toilets too. Once the entire time did some literal high school bullies who hadn't yet learned life isn't high school but all they did was call me names. I did get misgendered a lot but that's to be expected.
      idk about anywhere else but in the US in suburbia in broad daylight you are exceedingly unlikely to experience anything worse simply from going outside

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's what it's like for me. As long as it's in the daytime and it's more of a public event with other people, I'm safe.

        I can't hang out with a local tough guys at night. People are not going to come up on the street start hitting you.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cos i dont wanna be a hon or "that tranny" i'll present as a girl when i know i pass and if that doesn't happen i'll boymode forever. being a feminine boy>being visibly trans.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would that we could all come out and not lose anything for it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you seem to be ESL? I have no idea what you saying?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Rank 1 Boymoder

    sometimes people (me) look masculine regardless of hrt, it still makes me less masculine but the dissonance between my still masculine body and any feminine presentation physically hurts.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    it is over (repressor, honorary)

    >Why not just express yourself as a female and not worry about it?
    >Girlmode would be less outrageous than a feminine male.
    >The pleasure being yourself and seeing yourself in the mirror wouldn't be stronger than your emotional reaction to a little sarcasm?
    meanwhile the boymoder in question

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why take HRT?
    cuz I just wanted a slightly more fem body so I could andromaxx

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People want to transition to relieve dysphoria.
    They don't want to look like the worst drag queen you ever saw on day 1. That would just make dysphoria worse.
    They take hrt and wait for changes, some voice train and learn makeup in the meantime. Some like ocre have such bad dysphoria/bdd/internalised transphobia/brainworms/self-hatred that they find it hard to take any positive steps to transition, and keep taking hrt hoping that someday it will be enough, or at least that it will stop things getting worse. It's really not hard to understand. Most of these threads just turn out to be someone gloating about how their transition was better than stupid boymoders or something.

    • 2 weeks ago
      it is over (repressor, honorary)

      >Some like ocre have such bad dysphoria/bdd/internalised transphobia/brainworms/self-hatred that they find it hard to take any positive steps to transition, and keep taking hrt hoping that someday it will be enough, or at least that it will stop things getting worse.
      actually the only reason is because pinkpiller scum told me id become a boomerhon if i repressed, so i took that argument away from them

      maybe not where you live ig, i saw on the news a tranny got gunned down in the fucking street in my city a few weeks ago lol
      besides i'd still get referred to as a male in social situations for sure.
      and even if folk didn't bother me, it would still make me feel awful knowing for certain i don't pass while skinwalking around in women's clothing.
      boymoding is comfortable and people don't automatically know i'm a tranny when they meet me. i'll take it.

      >a tranny got gunned down in the fucking street in my city a few weeks ago
      based

      Well in fairness, I think most boymoders would probably present female if they thought they would pass while doing so. I can understand that some of us prefer to present female even if they don’t pass, and given that they go about this with some tact I respect that, but for some of us I think there’s a lot of internal shame that comes from being visibly trans. Mind you, I feel like some boymoder could do a bit more to work towards passing, namely voice training. I cringe every time I see a story about some boymoder who instantly changes the gender people perceive them as from female to male just by talking. As a boymoder myself, I’ve done some rudimentary voice training to get an androgynous voice and just a few days ago, I was able to hold a conversation with someone and only realized he thought I was a woman when near the end of it he said I should be a model. Of course, malefailing can be inconsistent, but having a good voice can really tip the scales in your favour and it annoys me every time I see someone here say that it’s “too hard.”

      but it is too hard tho + its extremely cringe

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >based
        unironically laughed really loud when i read that lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Some like ocre have such bad dysphoria/bdd/internalised transphobia/brainworms/self-hatred

      This is really sad! So you're saying it's being a female instead of being successful as a male, which made them feel so ashamed and embarrassed that they have a developed all this mental illness?

      I really don't think very well of women, and they don't think much about themselves as women

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    girls are ugly

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk I recently remembered my first experience seeing anyone trans when I was little. She was a hair stylis but I remembered how everyone treated her like someone to be avoided and we were taught to stay away or don't talk to her, plus everyone talking behind her back always dead naming talking about how she used to be a man.

    I think I heavily internalized all of that and by the time I was 13. I only felt feelings of shame for questioning my identity

    Things never got better and then I found repgen on here and picked up nasty brainworms..

    Started diy hrt with those nasty brainworms and said I'd never come out to anyone and here we are lol

  16. 2 weeks ago
    bddelfmoder

    because GIRLMODING IS CRINGE AGP
    i WILL NOT let myself become woodworkhon
    i enjoy being a normal person at the expense of my gender identity

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i think it’s really funny being androgynous and having people stare at me. once im done with laser sessions and i have breasts i’ll socially transition, but for now im gonna try to have fun with it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have an easier time seeing myself as female. I blend in with a better self image. When I saw myself looking male, I see like a red light district prostitute, or a circus freak.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I boymode because I'm confident in myself and I enjoy making people uncomfortable by doing things like going to the beach wearing just men's swim trunks with my b cups floppin

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