KDE
>Krashes
>All apps look different and don't have a proper theme
>10 Minutes installing, 10 days making it useful
>Konqi is... ok
XFCE
>Ugly. If you want to make it usable you have to spend your whole time customizing it
>Too reliable on the mouse
>Xue? How am I supposed to fuc-I mean, look at that?
Gnome
>Great defaults, very minimalist from a user stadpoint
>Great performance
>Extensions make it more customizable than KDE
>Stable
>Cute Foot
>>All apps look different and don't have a proper theme
>>10 Minutes installing, 10 days making it useful
is... ok
Werks on my machine, GNOME working as intended as a containment DE for retards.
>GNOME working as intended as a containment DE for retards.
fuck you
>Ugly. If you want to make it usable you have to spend your whole time customizing it
I didn't
>Too reliable on the mouse
I didn't notice
>Xue? How am I supposed to fuc-I mean, look at that?
Not a valid reason. XFCE wins
Because it is a copy of retarded mac gui. Also footfags should be hanged.
Gnome2 looks better than Gnome3, but SJWs don't make very good programmers, they're not very good at logic.
I really don't get the obsession with copying Macfag design
friendly reminder that op looks like this
oh, who is that in the middle, bottom row?
oh hey, its him! wait a minute.. that shirt... it looks familiar
He's hot now
>Gnomes defaults are insane, just look how large the title bar is and the forced tablet ui wastes 10% of your screen space.
>the performance is absolute shit because it's layers upon layers of shit code.
>extension compatibility is maliciously broken every time you update.
>It's stability comes from restricting customisations.
>feet
Allan Day, Red Hat
>Facilitating the unrestricted use of extensions and themes by end users seems contrary to the central tenets of the GNOME 3 design.
William Jon McCann, Red Hat
>I guess you have to decide if you are a GNOME app, an Ubuntu app, or an XFCE app unfortunately. I'm sorry that this is the case but it wasn't GNOME's fault that Ubuntu has started this fork. And I have no idea what XFCE is or does sorry.
Owen Taylor, Red Hat
>The Power Off option is hidden because we don’t believe it’s necessary in that menu. The primary way that a user would shut down (if they, say, need to disconnect power) would be to log out and shut down through GDM.
Bastian Nocera, Red Hat
>We're not designing a desktop for people who like to choose their own terminal emulators.
Jasper St. Pierre, Red Hat
>I am in no way adding SSD to gnome-shell/mutter
it took 18 years for them to add thumbnails to the file picker, i like their foot fetish logo that's it
>Gnome
>Great performance
It's the heaviest DE for whatever reason
What do you mean heaviest? In what way? It has always performed great for me
Because it's 2023 and no one is so poor they can't afford hardware that can run a DE. Doesn't mean it isn't more wasteful than all the alternatives.
I run gnome on a Thinkpad X230... it's 11 years old btw. Gnome has better battery life than KDE or even Sway.
RAM usage. That said, what workarounds does GNOME have to make it lightweight?
>GNOME is the heaviest DE for RAM usage when alooballoo KDE trash exists
qdbus org.kde.KWin /Compositor suspend
...or Shift+Alt+F12. If you had time to complain about KDE then you could've used said time to answer my question as well.
>just suspend the compositor bro
Kopium
I have never gone above 60% ram usage, ever. I don't get this obsession over a few hundred megabytes of ram.
People hate GNOME because they're too stupid to set up keybinds. They're used to manually navigating everything with the mouse and clicking -- which is the equivalent of pointing to every word with your index finger while you read.
Use GNOME and set it up with cwm-like keybinds. You'll wonder why you ever tried KDEfecation or Xfeces in the first place.
I don't want to have to set up keybinds to do the most basic of tasks, fuck off, I am lazy and it's not comfy. Nothing against people who do, but if your DE is going to prioritize those people who are a minority and leave 99% of desktop users dissatisfied, it can go fuck right off and is probably controlled opposition funded by M$.
plasma on desktop has never crashed on my use,
plasma on mobile, that's a different story.
KDE is simply too unstable and unpolished for daily use. I've tried KDE every year but I've never been impressed once and I stopped trying KDE in 2022.
When it manages to get the scale syncing right maybe I will try. DPI upscaling in KDE is a terrible fucking experience as none of the widgets, icons and cursors are in sync with the DPI. KDE is a steaming pile of shit for unemployed tinker trannies.
I used it for a while and enjoyed it. I did have issues though:
- nautilus crashes and has visual bugs all the fucking time, especially when dealing with network folders
- activities view crashes randomly (prob once a week)
- extensions are useless (break every release)
- gnome software is really buggy
- devs are retards
- missing features
- other shit I'm not remembering
Overall tho it's fine. I switched to hyprland just cause I work faster in it and looks nicer. Also working perfectly with Nvidia out of the box for me (Wayland was a buggy mess in Gnome half of the time.)
Forgot:
- Window top bar is fucking HUGE for some reason
Top bars don’t exist in modern GNOME apps, they use CSD.
i like gnome
They just need to
>make dash to panel the official design, add a functional system tray
>make everything more customizable, like the clock which can't show iso date for some reason
>add everything from gnome tweaks into settings
>get rid of stinky foot logo and make it a cool gnome
and I will use it
Because KDE has unironically been fixed. KDE Plasma 5 on Wayland is the best desktop experience I've ever had on Linux and I've been using Linux for 9 years. Plus it has wobbly windows without needing shitty extensions.
Also
>Xfce even being a contender in a post-Wayland world
lol
Xfeces should have died with Xorg. Using RatDE today is equivalent to using Windows 7. It's not even "muh lightweight" anymore, so there is absolutely 0 reason to bother with it.
why did you make your KDE look like gnome
I didn't. I made it look like Unity7.
93578649
If you don't have any answer to my question, then don't reply me and arrest yourself.
Gnome is acceptable in Ubuntu because Canonical fixes most problems with their extensions that they ensure are always functioning.
Otherwise, KDE or MATE are the only ones worth using.
Can't even turn off mouse acceleration on Ubuntu without looking up how to and downloading a separate tweak tool, it's embarrassing.
It's far from perfect, but is functional unlike vanilla gnome.
gnome 44 added mouse acceleration option.
>recommended for most users and applications
lol wut
Unlike you, Mr. ESL, I like my shit to actually work and not invent ways to shit things up. I can use the same nice XFCE4 theme I've been using for the last decade plus, and why the fuck would I use a computer without a mouse? How the fuck does someone do work with a touch interface? I just my shit to just work, no fucking surprises, and not absolutely bog down the CPU and RAM, which Gnome 3 and KDE fail on.
I like to have seXFCE with big fat Cinnamon ass bitch.
Kill gnomefags. Behead gnomefags. Roundhouse kick a gnomefag into the concrete. Slam dunk a gnomefag into the trashcan. Crucify filthy gnomefags. Defecate in a gnomefags food. Launch gnomefags into the sun. Stir fry gnomefags in a wok. Toss gnomefags into active volcanoes. Urinate into a gnomefags gas tank. Judo throw gnomefags into a wood chipper. Twist gnomefags heads off. Report gnomefags to the IRS. Karate chop gnomefags in half. Curb stomp pregnant gnomefags. Trap gnomefags in quicksand. Crush gnomefags in the trash compactor. Liquefy gnomefags in a vat of acid. Eat gnomefags. Dissect gnomefags. Exterminate gnomefags in the gas chamber. Stomp gnomefag skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate gnomefags in the oven. Lobotomize gnomefags. Mandatory abortions for gnomefags. Grind gnomefags in the garbage disposal. Drown gnomefags in fried chicken grease. Vaporize gnomefags with a ray gun. Kick old gnomefags down the stairs. Feed gnomefags to alligators. Slice gnomefags with a katana.
TOTAL GNOMEFAG DEATH
Kill kdefags. Behead kdefags. Roundhouse kick a kdefag into the concrete. Slam dunk a kdefag into the trashcan. Crucify filthy kdefags. Defecate in a kdefags food. Launch kdefags into the sun. Stir fry kdefags in a wok. Toss kdefags into active volcanoes. Urinate into a kdefags gas tank. Judo throw kdefags into a wood chipper. Twist kdefags heads off. Report kdefags to the IRS. Karate chop kdefags in half. Curb stomp pregnant kdefags. Trap kdefags in quicksand. Crush kdefags in the trash compactor. Liquefy kdefags in a vat of acid. Eat kdefags. Dissect kdefags. Exterminate kdefags in the gas chamber. Stomp kdefag skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate kdefags in the oven. Lobotomize kdefags. Mandatory abortions for kdefags. Grind kdefags in the garbage disposal. Drown kdefags in fried chicken grease. Vaporize kdefags with a ray gun. Kick old kdefags down the stairs. Feed kdefags to alligators. Slice kdefags with a katana.
TOTAL KDEFAG DEATH
I don't care about GNOME users, it's devs however are a bunch of fags
It's buggy
It's inconsistent
Nautilus gtk4 is a mess
Hell, gtk4 is a mess
Shitty font rendering
No VRR on Wayland unless you patch it (nothing on 44 yet)
GNOME on xorg is just visual glitch after visual glitch
On Wayland it also fucks with decorations for some programs like mpv
Needs a whole separate application for basic settings
Needs extensions for basic functionality
I don't see a point to this desktop. Cool animations? It doesn't even look good.
Once upon a time Gnome was good. Gnome 1.xx it was usable and functional. Gnome 2.xx it was actually a massive improvement. Gnome 3 and 40? Forget it. It’s just a cheap mac os clone that uses too much ram and actively gets in your way.
To me it's just that I'll never understand people who say it's coherent and polished compared to other desktops. GNOME 42 was a Frankenstein of different visual styles together, reminded me of windows. Even today gtk3 applications on it use the old adwaita. And I don't see the polish honestly anywhere, when I delete a file and it still shows up like a ghost file until I close the folder
GNOME gets in my way by lacking features far more often than KDE gets in my way by being buggy
You can't even do something as basic as change mouse acceleration in GNOME's settings; you have to use Tweaks which isn't even installed by default
They changed that in gnome 44 just like they added thumbnails in the file picker, but in exchange you have now an unstable piece of garbage