Why are they so fucking expensive? Is being the last air cooled car really that big of a deal?

Why are they so fucking expensive? Is being the last air cooled car really that big of a deal?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    butt ugly mcdonalds toy car
    people love to spend just because its old and therefore unique and great car taste
    its just as npc who people who pay out the ass just so they can have something new

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope looks better than the runny egg yolks and everything after

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder what you own but we'll never find out
      >sour grapes btw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >butt ugly mcdonalds toy car
      Unfathomably based and red pilled take.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s that twat strut guy again……

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The 993 was the first to get multi-link rear suspension I believe, and the 996, while lighter and more powerful, suffered from a lot of cost-cutting that resulted in the M96 engines being ticking time bombs.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    I thought boomers hated 993s almost as much as 996s

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would boomers hate the final evolution of the original 911 chassis?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The turbo was AWD only, boomers hate that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The turbo was AWD only, boomers hate that.
          No they don't. AWD was considered superior when overall speed is the objective. Oversteering and drifting at the cost of speed in the name of "fun" is completely an Xer invention.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it isn't a classic 911. Anything after the 930 is yikes tier as the young people would say.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    slant noses are the only cool porsches

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    air cooling is gay and dumb
    >t. engineer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it didn't even work
      >so many of those cars caught fire just sitting in traffic

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dust build up with a light misting of petrol leaks, + an entrée of Magnesium engine block

        air cooling is gay and dumb
        >t. engineer

        needs bigger oil cooler

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Air cooling is gay because you can't milk the shit out of your employer engineering over complicated bullshit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >water pump + heat exchanger + fan + coolant
        oh my gosh, so complicated
        oof, so complicated
        like how does everyone even
        shit's like rocket science and shit
        damn

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          u forgot the thermostat + the fan clutch / solenoid

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh noes so complicated omg such cutting edge tech

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Every additional part is another potential point of failure

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            air/oil cooling system =! fewer parts

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You forgot pathways for all of it plus

          u forgot the thermostat + the fan clutch / solenoid

          Every additional part is another potential point of failure

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          do you have any idea how many water pumps I've replaced?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >water pump fails
            oh noes something that gets replaced as a maintenance item when the belts are done get the fainting couch
            >oil pump fails
            OH FUCK

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you implying that old air cooled Porsche motors are low maintenance?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >milk the shit out of your employer engineering over complicated bullshit
        surely one could find a way to waste a lot of computational fluid dynamics and finite element analysis computing time making up new shapes of fan blade ?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Engineer
      Okay rajesh, no one asked and no one cares. Having a piece of paper becuase you were able to memorise some formulas doesn't mean you know anything about engine design.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.

        You have your average 98% engineer which is more like some sort of draftsman or inspector just ticking boxes and making sure everything is in compliance in the design they were shown. They may suggest adjustments to the design so it fits into the paperwork. Think of them as a 'tard handler holding onto the architects leash

        Then you have the knowledgeable 1.9% of Engineers who set the standards.

        THEN you have the 0.1% madlads who don't fullt understand what they are doing, yet, because they are doing something no one has ever done before. They are operating on a theory and are trailblazing. This is an actual engineer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.

        You have your average 98% engineer which is more like some sort of draftsman or inspector just ticking boxes and making sure everything is in compliance in the design they were shown. They may suggest adjustments to the design so it fits into the paperwork. Think of them as a 'tard handler holding onto the architects leash

        Then you have the knowledgeable 1.9% of Engineers who set the standards.

        THEN you have the 0.1% madlads who don't fullt understand what they are doing, yet, because they are doing something no one has ever done before. They are operating on a theory and are trailblazing. This is an actual engineer.

        neither of you know anything about engineering

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Beta Simps with too much money

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's a really pretty car. How much does it cost? I have $200k doing nothing in cash right now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can take a 993 turbo home for about 200k.
      It’s a good car for sure, if you can reasonably afford one. Depends on what you want out of a car, though. Something like a 930 is much more raw, while a 964 or a 993 is more civilized, but still a turbo 911.
      Also depends on if you are looking to modify it or keep it stock.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        god fucking damn I might buy this car

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ironically you're the exact type of person making these cars so expensive, to answer OP's question

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            aka, "i've got a lot of money, is this what the cool guys are buying now?? this is a good investment, right?? somebody tell me what to do"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >993 turbo for 200k
        fuckers arent even as fast as a base 'poverty' model 997

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah and those $10M classic Ferraris aren't even as fast as V6 Camry's - fucking rip off from pipe hitting dealers

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >a 911 is a 250 california

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >a collectible classic shouldn't be worth more than a more numerous modern counterpart

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1990s 911s are pretty numerous

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a middling sports car produced from the 1960s to the 1990s is the same as a Lemans protoype race car

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is being the last air cooled car really that big of a deal
    For some people, yes. Why, I'm not sure. The air cooled ones are rarer, so I guess that's mostly it.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's also the styling

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just buy the kitcar with another engine in it and you will happy

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Porsches are great because I have no real interest in them
    I like it when people are into things I'm basically indifferent to but still find cool (to some extent)

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit it looks so fucking cool, I would not even drive it, you can't even see how cool it looks while driving it, yes it's a toy car.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw it's yet another episode of "LULZ tries to figure out the economics of supply and demand"

    Get learnt in one and a half minutes ( you don't need to watch the second half)

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The 993 Turbo wasn't even air cooled

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's as air-cooled as any other pre-996 911 (more accurately, oil-cooled) (and ignoring the 959)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it has water cooled heads

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A real question is why is the 964 so expensive. It was one of the most hated models, like the 996. They were about 20k and now they're about 120, for a carrera 2. It's like people that never knew that wanted to have a "classic 911" and it's all they could afford. Then apparently Stinger has a stock pile of over 100 of them sitting in Utah.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's kinda the story on air-cooleds in general. outside of a few halo models, a huge percentage of car guys had little to no interest in them. "glorified vw beetle," "engine's in the wrong place," etc. suddenly around 2012 they all decided in unison they had to have one

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