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Why are there so many trade jobs unfilled?

Do young people not want to SWEAT?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look at his hands, do those look like the hands of someone who has worked hard for many years?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His excuse has always been "oh I just wasn't gifted with what it takes to be a tradesman like my grandfathers" or some shit. The real answer is that he knows full well most blue collar jobs take up your whole life, force you to be away from home 18 hours a day, break your body by 35 and are looked down on by society as the painful, unpleasant ways to make a living they are.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trade jobs are better than make busy office jobs. To many barely functioning women have degrees in bullshit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In terms of culture, yes. Most workplace homosexualry people complain about here I never experience as everyone at my job is a meathead or a stoner. But by every other metric, trades fucking blow compared to those easy make-work jobs.

          [...]
          Yup, I see listings all the time for these GREAT JOBS!!!1!1! in my town.
          Then you look at the details and they're a contractor with "some travel required"
          Some I have already worked for so I already know, but if you do some research what projects they've done it's
          >Wyoming
          >North Dakota
          >Oklahoma
          >Eastern Montana
          Fuck you homosexuals I'm not getting a useless shot then travelling 500+ miles from my family to make $70k lmao

          That sounds almost fun, if you're unmarried, have no kids and love to travel. I'm all of those things, but I'm also almost 30 and tired of having my entire life controlled by my employer. The only place this hasn't been the case was working for a state agency, which has no say over anything you do before or after your 8 hour shift.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've been a father my entire adult life. I love my kids.
            Must be fun to be without responsibility.
            Until it's lonely.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Must be fun to be without responsibility.
              >Until it's lonely.
              It's exactly like this, though it gets easier to stop caring about being alone with age. The attitudes of most single women still on the market nowadays make it pretty easy as well.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't give up entirely though. You have nothing to lose trying online dating every now and then

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The attitudes of most single women still on the market nowadays make it pretty easy as well.
                I am very aware of this. Luckily I married a lady for love after a shitty breakup on a whim.
                I'm just a little older than you. My older brother is you plus a handful of years. He says he's going to south America to retire with his meager inheritance.
                >He won't
                If you want to live this life and you have big plans, you need to do it.
                Now. Do it. Start it.
                Right now.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Delusional

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is America fucking third world or some shit? I became a painter and make more money than every single one of my friends who went to university and own a bunch of shit. I work a nine hour day 5 days a week and that includes an hour lunch in between. Own all my own shit and completely debt free. Where does this shit come from I hear from burgers? If you think construction would destroy your body by the time you're 35 it means you are weak and fat or skinny. A man should be in his prime at that age still. I have a mate who spent most of his 20s studying and he works at a fucking call centre making slave tier wages. The 18 hours a day is just stupid, if you know someone doing that they are a retard and you are a retard for associating with them. I honestly don't know what you're on about mate. Either things are radically different between our countries to the point you seemingly live in Africa or you honestly don't know what you're talking about

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Is America fucking third world or some shit?
          To some extent, yes.
          Also note that not every tradesman gets to own a business

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kek le 35 year old prime man meme. Cope dude. Enjoy breathing in those volatile hydrocarbons I guess.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What do you think your body goes to shit the second the clock ticks over to your 30th birthday? Is it some form of curse magic? Like a 31 year old can't lift weights or go running? A person who is fit and strong doesn't just magically become weak and fat because it's their birthday. If someone can't swing a hammer or hold a drill and push the button at 35 then they probably never were fit in their life to be honest. Literally every physical job in the world has a lot of grown men in it. The problem with construction isn't that older dudes can't work, it's that we honestly struggle to find decent young people to take on as apprentices and labourers to fill jobs because 99% of younger people these days are either skinny weak kids that physically can't keep up or fat weirdos. They're always entitled and lazy and just aren't cut out for a physical job working with grown men.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Look at his hands, do those look like the hands of someone who has worked hard for many years?

      Doesn't mean shit, I've done nothing but drilling and construction for 20 years , I have an old allows but other than that my hands are softer than most women,

      It's probably the lotion I used to whack off

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I've done nothing but drilling and construction for 20 years , I have an old allows but other than that my hands are softer than most women,
        My hands are nice too. Most construction sites REQUIRE gloves. You can get away with no gloves if you're doing residential or if you're doing service calls.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can get away with aloy when your the one who does all the work.

          t. Adidas track suit all day roof day.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ou can get away with aloy when your the one who does all the work.
            It's not up to your company. The general contractor running the site is the one with safety n-words walking around. They kick people off site all the time because it gives them something to do and justifies their pay. Imagine being a safety person who never kicks anyone off site and never documents any safety problems - that safety job would be eliminated.

            You can do no-gloves in resi because there is no GC and you can do it in service because there is no GC.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nah. I was working .gov jobs and pulling yhe same shit.

              Of course i dont push the issue, but i get away with certain things like not having to wear pants, or heavy work clothes.

              Also i work safe. Im just flamboyant.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The deal with trades is:
    They trade their bodies/long term health for a decent wage. If you remove the decent wage part, no one is going to work in trades.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even short term is great for personal skill/value, can't find any apprentices worth a fuck or willing to learn

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's def me... Sorry I'm going into medical

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >goes through over a hundred aprentices in a single year
        >its all their fault and could not possibly be my fault.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well boomer homosexual, why do you bid on jobs 100+ miles away and tell your minions to drive their own rigs?
        I left the trades for maintenance, fuck travel and fuck you greedy homosexuals at the top.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't forget one of their absolute classics:
          >given address in job posting is closeby
          >turns out to be the office
          >"Actually Anon, you'll be working out of our shop 40 miles away and only accessible by dirt road which is unusable any time it rains."

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >certified welder

            I need 120 an hour to destroy my body or I AIN'T doing it. Fuck this "culture" too...most government contractors required vax....I'm out
            Enjoying watching the world burn though

            Yup, I see listings all the time for these GREAT JOBS!!!1!1! in my town.
            Then you look at the details and they're a contractor with "some travel required"
            Some I have already worked for so I already know, but if you do some research what projects they've done it's
            >Wyoming
            >North Dakota
            >Oklahoma
            >Eastern Montana
            Fuck you homosexuals I'm not getting a useless shot then travelling 500+ miles from my family to make $70k lmao

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. Im driving 120km each day a town over when i live in a city.

          If i didnt rideshare and get paid cash i would quit. Fuck boomers also for whining about how we dont want to work.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's in it for me, m8? I'm paid more in an office, and if the office BS rubs me the wrong way, well, I'm still getting health insurance and a 401k match.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >talks up shitty job with “high personal value”
        >don’t mention wages
        >wonders why no one will apprentice
        Hahahaha

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I left plumbing for day trading. Best decision I ever made. Sorry but trades weren't worth it. And it was primarily not being at home, not having a social life. Lots of lonely angry people in the trades I didn't want to end up one of them
        >t. 25 year old plumber who quit his job directly after completing his apprenticeship

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What kind of trading?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What kind of trading?
            day

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Is there any kind of asset class or sector you specialize in?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Is there any kind of asset class or sector you specialize in?
                I don't trade

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You said you left plumbing for day trading

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You said you left plumbing for day trading
                I've never done either

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You stupid homosexual, look at the fucking IDs and then KYS

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Day trading stocks. I measure strength and weakness relative to SPY, and trade stocks depending on that and market movement, among other indicators. I made 775$ today and I typically make more than even an average skilled normie. Now, I did have to save a lot of money first to get started. But with margin it's

                Buy stock X at 60$, 60000 shares worth, stock moves .75c in a candle, close trade, make 750 dollars or so. Calculations not exact but you probably get the idea. I finished work today at 10:30AM.

                Judging by your activity ITT I don't think you're gonna make it fren, good luck to you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Spider sector Mommy and daddy liquidity draining ETF
                100% ROI via emotions

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Day trading stocks. I measure strength and weakness relative to SPY, and trade stocks depending on that and market movement, among other indicators. I made 775$ today and I typically make more than even an average skilled normie. Now, I did have to save a lot of money first to get started. But with margin it's

            Buy stock X at 60$, 60000 shares worth, stock moves .75c in a candle, close trade, make 750 dollars or so. Calculations not exact but you probably get the idea. I finished work today at 10:30AM.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Where’s my cut?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I-IRS san y-youre here early !

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >throws up
                You are free to go

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You add nothing of value, and are basically a garden gnome.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How so? With more money I can invest in more local businesses, like farms for example. I can distribute the new found income im making throughout my local community, which is good for the town I care about. I'm contributing more than I was when I was a tradie.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you investing in local businesses or are you day trading shlomo?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Guys like you sit around on a mountain of losses and show the world basically their one win.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A lot of people think day trading is gambling. In reality it's more like counting cards. Sure I'll be honest I had a good day today. Some days I lose a bit of money, some I make a little bit less. But ultimately let's say you have a win rate of 50% (mine is around 70%). If you have 10 trades, and 5 go against you, just cut them early. And let the 5 winners run. It's a doable profession, but nobody wants to do it because it's stressful and hard to learn.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Successful day traders usually start with a nice chunk of change from something else or start very very early in life with their overhead is minimal and they can eat a bad week and not get homes forclosed or divorce raped.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I lost a lot when I started. But my bills are cheap, so when I started I studied and did side work to pay the bills. Would've been easier if I lived at home but not as hard as those who support a family.

                How does one day trade?
                You buy shit at 9am and then sell later at 12pm or something?

                I recommend checking out strategies on trading stocks that are RW/RS to SPY. It's a bit too complex to explain in one post. A combination of about 25% Technical analysis skill and 75% mentality of knowing when to hold a trade or sell it. I typically don't hold anything for an hour though unless it's really working out for me or I think it will work out in the future. Most of my trades are 30 seconds to 15 minutes long.

                How does one get started doing this? I don't need to be fabulously wealthy, I want to be comfy. Have realistically about 10k to play with.

                I started with 35k. I'd recommend saving up before starting. Since to get past the PDT rule you need 25k at least.
                You can paper trade though which is a good way to practice.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How does one day trade?
                You buy shit at 9am and then sell later at 12pm or something?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its exactly like that. though depending on the brokerage, you need $25k in the portfolio to 'day trade' or you get an account strike for being a 'basic' trader. get 4 strikes, and you're locked out of your account for 90 days. i could be wrong but i think it might be some bullshit law put in place from long ago to 'protect smaller investors from themselves'.
                >t. robinhood user

                the cryptotrade markets on the other hand are open 24/7 and do not have any such restrictions. you can buy or sell as often and as much as you want. you can make big gains or losses on the yields as it goes up or down throughout the day and night. say you buy 100million SHIB at 10pm, and at 2am it spikes 15% while you sleep. you can sell it when you wake up at 6am and take the profit, put it in something else while SHIB goes back down, and repeat the process back again. just don't hodl forever. take your profit margin or you never make any money if you never sell. thats the whole point and difference between investing, and trading.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >its exactly like that. though depending on the brokerage, you need $25k in the portfolio to 'day trade'
                Well looks like I'm locked out of that shit
                I used to hold crypto for a while but I stopped bothering and withdrew especially when Brandon and the FED started to open their mouths on regulation last year
                Bought me a nice WASR with that money

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well looks like I'm locked out of that shit
                no. you can still buy a chunk of a stock one day then sell the next and avoid any strikes. i did it when i first started out 2 years ago right as the covid saga began. little by little i gained enough to start doing bigger things with it until i learned about options which is where the real money is made or lost. if you do prefer long term investing where value is added, go with dividend stocks that pay out money per share every quarter, or some companies like MAIN, every month. MAIN never disappoints me. if it goes lower, its a good buying opportunity than a 'lost value' since its still paying dividends no matter how much it swings. just dont trade on margin, or you'll owe the brokerage for the amount you borrow or worse, get margin called.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My boss is a big Elon fan and bought a shitton of TSLA, saw it go all the way up. It was pretty painful in a vicarious way watching all of it go to shit, when he could’ve had a decent payola from it. He assures me the advisors he listens to suggest always to hold if it’s money you can afford to lose

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              well be sure to leverage your UVXY and SQQQ calls and puts correctly. i'm up nearly 200% this week from last week alone from swing trading their options, but be warned, its a game of hot potato to market reactions to news. tesla's practically bottomed out, and i'd guess likely go back up to 750 since its better for trading than long term holding.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not swinging at all in this market. I'm making small day trades on stocks or I'm scalping SPY. With how volatile the market is I just don't want to take the risk. Good luck to you tommorow though fren. Im watching DOCU on the short side and NIO on the long side (if it breaks 19.10 line of resistance)

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kek you dont make shit. Im a cdl driver and I made 900 dollars for the load I dropped today, and ill earn 900 more tomorrow.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good, I'm happy for you anon. I just would rather spend my time going to the gym or shitposting on /smg/ during the day, since my work day is only an hour long tops. Ultimately if you're making that kind of money driving a truck you should be proud. And it's secure income unlike what I do which is self employed and only as secure as my skill is for the day.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, I do a little trading too but I took this gig because it is always in demand, and Im not a door swinger so I get about 2 hours of good excercise a day. The nice part is that I can say no. Having the ability to tell n-words and managers to fuck off is worth it's weight in gold.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah you guys are in hot demand right now and have been for at least a year or so. I had Lowes tell me to fuck off because the closest driver was like 100 miles from my location, couldn't get kitchen cabinets for a friend of mine and ended up having to go get the things ourselves. Honestly I respect you, and if I had people to support like a wife or kids I wouldn't have the balls to day trade. I make good money now but starting out it was a hellish experience of losing, losing, winning, and losing some more.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol Lowes is one of our major clients and we can't drove fast enough to get shit on their shelves, and I have both so I needed something that was steady and had good healthcare.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well good on you, and have a good night fren, im going to sleep.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that before or after gas/food costs?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Im company so thats all in my pocket. I cook meals on the weekends and take my food with me over the road and cook in the crockpot/grill/microwave it. If I go owner op I would triple my money but he responsible for the headache that comes with it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So trucker making 240k/yr pretax?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tbf, it's closer to 180 because I take time off here and there and my loads are variable to how far I feel like driving/how long I want to be out. I also have healthcare coming out of each check. I don't work year round.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes… lots of headache

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How does one get started doing this? I don't need to be fabulously wealthy, I want to be comfy. Have realistically about 10k to play with.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Learning a skill doesnt matter if you have a bad day and permanently fuck your back at 20, anon. How many mg of oxy are you up to? People arent going to risk that for 15/hr

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let me guess. You pay $9 an hour, have uncertain schedules that basically revolve around you texting them "Be ready in an hour", and treat them like shit because that's how you started, and there's not realistic path to certification, just a "when you're ready".

        Credible tradesmen are literally drowning in young men trying to get an apprenticeship.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Offer me the following
        >$50k starting salary or more
        >health/vision/dental/life insurance
        >Federal Holidays or their following monday off even that retarded n-word holiday in June
        >weekends off
        >two weeks vacation starting or after 90 days
        Thats what my current job has, minus $10k of that income
        Face it, you just dont offer shit, and I dont fuck up my body either

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Try the railroad. They'd offer all that and they're always hiring somewhere

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Good luck getting through those gatekeepers without an already employed relative vouching for you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly I dont mind my job at all, it's not glamorous but it's a vast improvement over the last two jobs I had.

            I do it all day too, but I don't need to stare the screen every time the song changes. I think people are legit using youtube for their music or something retarded

            Well thankfully there's a thing called YT to Mp3 and I only have to look at my screen to change the music

            Because zoomers are lazy cunts who think the world owes them EVERYTHING.

            Anon a place to live shouldn't be a luxury

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >advertise that you've got apprentice spots open
        >hire the best qualified guys out of trade school
        >instead of pairing them with senior journeymen and masters so they can actually learn, use them as fucking grunt labor
        >they say fuck it and leave the trades altogether
        >waah there's no good apprentices worth a fuck
        well you n-words did this to yourselves

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >instead of pairing them with senior journeymen and masters so they can actually learn, use them as fucking grunt labor
          I've been an electrician for 5 years and I've never seen this. The new guys get paired with experienced guys. Experienced doesn't automatically mean journeymen - you might get a new guy paired with a second year who is really good at doing a certain task. By the end, you have 2 guys who are quite good at that task. Then you get a job at another company and it happens again. Eventually you're good at multiple things. You can pull wire properly, you can bend conduit properly, you can terminate wires properly, you can mark drawings properly.

          There was 1 time where I (new) was paired with another new guy and were told to bend PVC conduit. It was a fucking disaster. We were gluing the parts wrong. You're supposed to put glue on the male end, and putting it in the female end pushes excess PVC glue out. We were gluing the female end so excess glue is pushed into the pipe and it makes it fucking impossible to pull cable through it. Never put two new people together. We can fuck things up in ways you wouldn't imagine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there's foreman, superintendents, and journeyman with that attitude but it usually falls back on them
        >take advantage that an apprentice is cheaper than a laborer
        >slave drive the piss out of an apprentice while not teaching him anything
        >expect that they know everything from doing or seeing it once
        >get impatient apprentice isn't performing fast enough when there's no immediate deadline or other projects on the backburner
        >forget they're paid a fraction of journeyman, but act like they're wasting money if they don't work like a journeyman
        >get annoyed they're asking questions
        >get annoyed there's any optimism
        >act like they weren't cut for the job when they join the laborer or sparky union to get paid more for lesser impact
        >rinse and repeat with the next apprentice
        I'd pick a laid back apprentice over a crap journeyman any day. The amount of pansies I've had to deal with stressing that we didn't do everything in one day and bringing the whole mood down when even the boss didn't expect us too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        land with allodial title with small house on it up to code. 5 years wage work. we have a deal?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. the LTL trucking company i drive for pays at least $30 an hour 5 days a week plus the benefits. get into trucking, its not too bad.
      >tradeoff is 10-12 hr days.
      >captcha: pansy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tradeoff is 10-12 hr days
        See this is the stupid part - I'd be happy to do some of the worst jobs you can imagine but I'm not doing 10-12 hour days

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doubling this. Trades are great, until they aren't.
      Ucle was a machinist until he slashed a flnger sharpening a tool. Infection took the middle and ring finger down to the first knuckle. Cousin worked his way up to foreman on construction site until he stepped in to a hole, shattered his shin bones, never healed right now has a cane

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because boomer managers want to only to hire millennials with 1 year experience which zoomers can't because they literally just graduated.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Another demographic misstep from the left. Those empty trades should be stuffed with freshly-amnestified Latinos

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would prefer to NEET

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based and saved.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Iv hardly seen any. And as always, they have to be willing to actually hire someone not just collect resumes to use in some kind of abstract art piece.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same shit for regular fucking retail possitions.
      i whent from being able to put in 10 apps and get 10 calls to putting in a hundred and getting ghosted. wtf is happening?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They probably get more money to borrow if it looks like they’re expanding on paper, when in reality they’re floundering

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How long ago was that?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Howdy Ma'am

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is that people don't make enough to save up for anything like a house. Most people are just working to get their drug or alcohol fix in blue collar jobs. Wages have to actually increase to reflect inflation.

    Also working at Panda Express is way easier, have medical care, 401k, dental, education, etc.

    Working as a blue collar worker is like working for near minimum wage and nothing else. It's insane how little the hard or even highly educated work is worth so little to employers.

    It just doesn't make sense.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Little ?
      I'm sure tradesmen are earning so little that they can spend +100k USD on Ram 2500/f-250 trucks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what are loans
        Almost nobody buys cars with cash. The average loan is something like 5 years and it is one of the more profit sectors of companies like Toyota. The median welder wage is like 30k in GA, and one of the jannies at work’s husband was a welder

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It takes at least years of practice to get a welding job making 100k+ with certs, training, management qualifications. And that's like only the top 2 percent or those doing jobs dangerous or disgustingly.

        Compare that to a software engineer who literally starts off a 50k, gets some basic ass certs, sits in AC and plays games all day, after two years his pay will jump up to 120k a year if he is doing things half assed.

        Even a job at panda express cooking will pull in 80k a year, which is almost 30k more than a basic entry level welding job.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those are write offs a lot of the time

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anon, do you know how write offs work? you still have to spend the money to write it off. you just don't count it towards your taxable income, its not like its free money.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      After four years you make $34.00 an hour as a journeymen electrician at my company. Does Panda Express pay that much after four years?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, maybe even more honestly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Panda Express wagies make 34.00 dollars an hour
          You have to be 18 to post here anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At 5 years with my company as an aircraft mechanic you make $60/hr and sleep half the shift

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Based.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's all about how difficult you are to replace. Hence why some kind of credentials behind a job (being licensed or meeting specific degree requirements) are the best indicator of actual compensation.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, literally get poached in the best way to get better pay since they aren't paying you more to keep you, but to essentially shut down their competition.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can get a job right now working as a “lead glazier” making $14.50/hr, doing 50-60 hours a week, with 1.5x overtime any hours over 40, but I’d rather just keep running my logistics company even though expenses are WAY up, brokers/shippers are pushing rates WAY down, and certain parts of the country are seeing freight dry up.
    Basically, things suck either way, but at least I’m my own boss and can fuck off whenever I feel like it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >14.50 as a lead glazer
      mfw i made that walking in the door at walmart...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trust me I know, it’s actually decent for the area, that’s why I started my own business and net more in one day than I could doing that “tradesmen” job in a whole 60hr week. Of course running the business is very very stressful and difficult, but hey I’m not carrying 500lbs of play glass up 5 bucks of scaffolding, risking my life, and breaking my back anymore!

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are there so many trade jobs unfilled?
    #8. Read it. The workers were unhappy. Instead of working the shit job and complaining, they left.
    This is after all what you want, stop your whining about unfulfilled jobs.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm working as a tradie right now. I make $20/hour with no benefits. I have an aas degree and multiple other certs. it's a high skill job where someone could conceivably die if I fuck up. I saw an ad the other day offering $17/hour with healthcare for stocking shelves overnight at a grocery store. maybe other trades or unionn-words are doing better, but at least in my field wages are not keeping up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I work as a security guard in portland making $20.
      Literally walk around in downtown and play on my phone. I cam make more my becoming a sup. or joint armed/vehicle patrol. I also attend uni but have a bad community college gpa

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That sucks. You can do better pay or at least easier work.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >certified welder

    I need 120 an hour to destroy my body or I AIN'T doing it. Fuck this "culture" too...most government contractors required vax....I'm out
    Enjoying watching the world burn though

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has Mike Rowe ever actually worked a blue collar job?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, obviously. Haven't you seen dirty jobs?
      Every two weeks he spends 6 hours fucking up at a blue collar job and wasting them half a day before going back to a nice hotel to do more Deadliest Catch voice overs.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’d rather sit in my room and make more money and write code. Thanks, though.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More like slavery pledge lmao

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sadly non union jobs dont pay shit unless its prevailing wage which is just gibs from the guberment.
    and i hate unions

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was a ZOGbot and then firefighter/EMT and retired at 29. Sucks to be a wagie, I'm gonna get paid until they day I die, until then the garden gnomes are going to pay for my beer and ammo. I'm a school trained infantryman with combat experience who can better protect his family from ZOG and I couldn't possibly care less what anyone thinks about it. I'm using the other half of GI Bill to take helicopter flying lessons for my license

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    does anyone know about being an electrician?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >does anyone know about being an electrician?
      something something shocking
      end of joke

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What state?
      If your state doesn't have licensing or has "construction electricians" and other temp license categories for illegal immigrants then the job won't pay very well.
      If you don't live in a major democrat controlled city, you'll probably have to travel all week.
      If you do live in a city like that above, you'll have to please the mob to get in.
      If you get lucky and get an employer that pays a middle class wage, has very knowledgeable master at the helm, and only bids on jobs that are only an hour or two from your hometown then you should work for them for as long as it works for you.
      Also don't go to "college" for electrical unless you absolutely can't get employed otherwise. Everybody starts at the bottom, especially nerds with degrees.
      Also do your licensing coursework if you do get a job, the license is the goal. But if you start getting abused, just do a lateral move or quit and stay up with coursework until you can get your hours somehow.
      Good luck retard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you do residential, you'll be digging trenches and drilling holes in studs a lot. usually work under some miserable fuck who doesn't teach you anything, but will still manage to record you fucking up so he can laugh at you and post it on social media with the caption "can't find no good help these days." commercial guys always seem pretty chill though when I work with them.
      t. commercial hvac guy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Last dude that tried recording me at work had his phone thrown 3 stories. Then i whipped mine out.

        "So this pussy tried recording me at work, i took his phone amd threw it off the building.

        And he isnt going to do anything about it"
        He got laughed off site and never came back.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          based
          phones should be used for music, porn, shitposting on LULZ, and phone calls
          not this dumb shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’ve made my way through commercial to industrial and now I do instrumentation. If you learn to program PLCs you can skip all the BS and make better money.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If you learn to program PLCs
        whats difficult about ladder diagram?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Industrial is the only way. Fuck residential.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dissuading people from joining a trade is a gnomish scheme.
    >oyy veyy i cant lift a finga to do WORRRK!

    Jobs that dont involve physical labour are not jobs, I hope a CME(God's wrath) obliterates all technology and the garden gnome and the urbanite wallow in their personal hellscapes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. I was peer pressured by my high shool mates to go a university for CS insteading of just taking a trade cuz they said i was too smart for just doing a trade. fuck those garden gnomebots

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are no jobs.
    It’s all bullshit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're just an overweight and underachieving LARPing homosexual, you just want 6 figures to sit on your ass

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am, but here’s my other post

        I work as a security guard in portland making $20.
        Literally walk around in downtown and play on my phone. I cam make more my becoming a sup. or joint armed/vehicle patrol. I also attend uni but have a bad community college gpa

        Fuck off. No one wants to do security because “wanna be pig” so I’ll flourish there

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He looks like a fucking Union Rep

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    trades are for n-words, college is for the white man

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i work with art and make way more than most of my highschool colleagues who would make fun of me for being bad at school cause i was studying art at home instead of homework lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i work with art
        Be honest, you draw furry porn and get paid big money by them do you?
        Also checked

        >Well looks like I'm locked out of that shit
        no. you can still buy a chunk of a stock one day then sell the next and avoid any strikes. i did it when i first started out 2 years ago right as the covid saga began. little by little i gained enough to start doing bigger things with it until i learned about options which is where the real money is made or lost. if you do prefer long term investing where value is added, go with dividend stocks that pay out money per share every quarter, or some companies like MAIN, every month. MAIN never disappoints me. if it goes lower, its a good buying opportunity than a 'lost value' since its still paying dividends no matter how much it swings. just dont trade on margin, or you'll owe the brokerage for the amount you borrow or worse, get margin called.

        I appreciate the advice but stocks is something I dont want to involved with again
        Especially now with Brandon in office

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I ever see that homosexual in a crosswalk I'm going to run him over

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >i believe the world is not fair and im ok with that
    >i believe all people are created equal
    ???????

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In Clown World employment practices, Hard work doesn’t get you anything other than more work.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tradie wages haven't been good in years. You need to be an old timer to get a fair shake and unions have let lazy n-words bitch about having to work a job in itself. Most trades want extensive experience to minimize training, they want you certified, but they won't or can't pay you what you're worth when you ARE trained and certified. I'm turning 33 this year. Guys like my dad who's mid 60s and been doing his craft since before I was born... gonna be hard to replace those guys with a whole generation of men choosing IT.

    Long story short we're fucked in about 5 years.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      only fucked if sit on a dildo for the next 5 years instead of getting as much experience as possible. once the boomers die in trades and you are the only one to replace them, you will be able to demand a lot higher pay and always have a job

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The mexican citizen with an endless stream of illegal laborers who work for 5 bucks a day would like a word on your "future job prospects"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          depends on your trade I guess. I never see mexicans in my field and if I do they are only replacing laborers, and honestly they are better. young workers now can't stop looking at their phones or vaping. at least the mexican tries to work

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >wah muh phones
            fuck off I like listening to my music it makes it easier to ignore co-workers

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I do it all day too, but I don't need to stare the screen every time the song changes. I think people are legit using youtube for their music or something retarded

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am not a tradie, i saw the writing on the wall and got out. Consider this: if your trade is the only show in town that is mexican proof, what is stopping every young white man from flooding your trade with competition and creating the same situation as everywhere else?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              idk I have 13 years experience and I'm teaching young guys all the time, but none stick around. it's too hot/cold and dirty for them. they also get stuck doing the bullshit work but that's just what it is to be an apprentice. I wish I had mexicans to work under me, at least they wouldn't bitch and moan and I wouldn't have to feel like a babysitter all the time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your favorite "Mexicans" work "so hard" because they're being paid twice - by the employer and subsidized by the working taxpayers. The immigrant makes 3x what the native worker makes

                John Legal vs Juan Illegal
                (by Poseidon)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not paying them so not much I can do about it, and they take the taxes out regardless if they work with me or not

                You arent wrong, zoomers are fucking soft. But, there are over 300 million people in this country and growing. If just one percent of that has a little grit or ambition, your trade is flooded. Even worse, eventually there will be a mexican whose IQ is above room temperature who learns your job and boom, no more free ride.

                They won't because I go to classes and get certs that require the ability to speak and read english. It will be rough for the new guys who try to jump into it when it's more in demand.

                Anon you have to realize that some of these young guys never had a father or even a father figure at all in their lives.
                You really need to stop bitching and need to be a fucking leader and show them a good example

                I don't get paid to do that so, no

                >advertise that you've got apprentice spots open
                >hire the best qualified guys out of trade school
                >instead of pairing them with senior journeymen and masters so they can actually learn, use them as fucking grunt labor
                >they say fuck it and leave the trades altogether
                >waah there's no good apprentices worth a fuck
                well you n-words did this to yourselves

                True they hire kids at 18 for my field which is 50 cents more than chicfila so it's a no brainer why they leave

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You arent wrong, zoomers are fucking soft. But, there are over 300 million people in this country and growing. If just one percent of that has a little grit or ambition, your trade is flooded. Even worse, eventually there will be a mexican whose IQ is above room temperature who learns your job and boom, no more free ride.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon you have to realize that some of these young guys never had a father or even a father figure at all in their lives.
                You really need to stop bitching and need to be a fucking leader and show them a good example

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Many/most employers love to exploit that fact to the utmost

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I understand that but if you're a fucking supervisor your job is to lead and be a good example and teach your subordinates to be better

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My boss told me this as if it's my responsibility yo be their father.

                Told him to fuck off and pay me more.
                Told the zoomers to buy me a case of beer. They didnt.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >idk I have 13 years experience and I'm teaching young guys all the time, but none stick around. it's too hot/cold and dirty for them. they also get stuck doing the bullshit work but that's just what it is to be an apprentice. I wish I had mexicans to work under me, at least they wouldn't bitch and moan and I wouldn't have to feel like a babysitter all the time

                I bet you throw them in deep end then yell when they fuck up. Classic boomer "training". I'm fucking done with trades, never going back. Someone else can build Chinese investors properties.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I do it for them once and show them how, then watch them do it, and then let them do some on their own and check up on them. If they fuck up I don't yell I just make them redo it, and that usually pisses them off enough to where they do it right the next time. If they still fuck up, I just make them do some really bullshit task that they complain the most about to me. Some people definitely are not cut out for trades, but I never yell at people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We are fucked now as it is.

      People like me who work hard and love it are actively dropping out of the industry cause of
      1. Boomers.
      2. Wages.
      3. Having to train Zoomers.
      Im out. Peace.
      t. 10y framing, can run own show.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just got a cert for a very in demand trade
    >no driver's license
    Go on without me bros...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >had telehandler ticket before i had my full drivers.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I make 40k sitting on my ass listening to music/podcasts and shifting through applications that a good chunk of people are too stupid to fill out.
    I couldn't be any happier

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why cant you get 3 jobs?

    How will the garden gnomes survive if they cant find slaves to profit from? Do you really want the garden gnomes and boomers to have to go do actual work themselves?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >$35 haircut
      did she suck his dick too? the place I go to is only $18.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you know that guy is a literal actor right?
    when hes at a "job" he can take breaks whenever he wants.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    get certs and 3 years webdev experience, finally make it out of wagiehood
    > 3 months of interviews on the indeed carousel, and I finally get a follow up
    > I get in by doing a half baked basic HTML form
    > it’s $95k/yr and remote
    > it’s for a big company, we work with Fortune 500 customers
    > Indian manager says I need to struggle the first few weeks
    > a month later of doing nothing, realize he doesn’t know much of what he’s doing
    > in fact, I don’t even code really, nor does he
    > I just use the same few APIs and teach them to the tech people of our customers (most Indian)
    > and I don’t have access to our codebase at all, or the customer’s
    > just a portal that doesn’t let you see all the data
    > we have our own tech support and they don’t know anything, find that the engineers shut themselves off so we don’t inundate them with questions
    > 5 months and I’ve only confidently answered 3-5 questions
    > and they throw you into video calls with customers, where they grill us over problems we can’t learn because they hate their lives too
    > imagine three different Indians jabbering their own questions in broken English, expecting you to keep up with them
    > manager knows little on these calls, yet pretends he knows everything and gets shit on all the time by customers
    > our code not working doesn’t break any of their stuff, we’re a writeoff
    > companies enter fixed yearly contracts with mine, they have enough money to waste on addressing a meme issue from some blog
    > I’m talking millions of dollars per month to our department
    > and my manager didn’t even know what an adblocker was
    > and they expect me to take over and do the same dance they do, fucking up on video in front of Fortune 500 customers

    I know I’m lucky in a way lads, but… I’m demoralized at the state of our society. I know we’re not the only ones that are this dysfunctional, everything’s held together by duct tape and I’m waiting for it to bust.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Enjoy it while you can anyway man, your job sounds like the physical embodiment of a Benny Hill song so rake in the cash and enjoy the show

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s a Chinese fire drill, that’s what it is. I’m at $21k and counting in the bank, and when my manager told me two hours before about a zoom meeting I had to do over an hour after close of business today, I left mid meeting. From hereon out, no more speaking indirectly and beating the bush with customers when they leave them with me. I’ve had enough, they can’t scare a man who has options in life. And if my other startup I worked at sells at what they want, I get a six figure payday from equity

        Fucking clownworld

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dealing with shit skins causes cancer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I actually don’t mind Indians a lot of the time, they have some of the most entertaining podcasts and news media imho, and some of their humor is on point. It’s when they aren’t direct when they don’t know something, and that bobble head nod they do when they’re confused. I’ve had to deal with them a chinks a lot lately, some blacks. Everybody puts on a front while they don’t know shit, except the white/Persian Python dudes who draw charts no one gives a shit about during training

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "No such thing as a bad job"
    "All people are created equal"
    Sounds like Christian Right-wing American Patriot bullshit to me, I can tell you right now that restaurants and retail provide horrible jobs easily, and there are clear genetic differences between races. People are born with disabilities or other impairments that will prevent them from performing certain jobs.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mike Rowe is king of the boomers. He has never worked a single one of the jobs he has portrayed on television. He lives in a mansion in the San Francisco Bay area. He has a BA in "communication skills" and had a background in theatre and singing prior to his college education. He has also sang opera professionally. All of his jobs have been in television. He pushes jobs in the trades because it suits his neo-con political views but cannot understand that few people enter those jobs because real wages in the trades have not kept up with inflation in decades. He is the spiritual equivalent of a garden gnome and not to be trusted.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't awarw of all that. Thanks anon

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The capitalist way is to make the most amount of money by doing the least amount of work.
    homosexuals like OP should rope.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because zoomers are lazy cunts who think the world owes them EVERYTHING.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck that grifting Rowe n-word

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do young people not want to SWEAT?

    Mostly due to the influence of the mob, and therefore of unions. They'll go out of their way to make sure that only x amount of people come in per year, and thus a 2-3 year long waiting list happens for those trying to enter a trade (especially one like plumber or electricians union) and thus people go for hte low paying non-union stuff and ultimately leave for something more comfy.

    On a side note I made a crypto and am going to do an airdrop next month

    >Name: Holocaust
    >Tokens: 6,000,000 (garden gnomeS)
    >Burnable ERC-20 Token,
    >To register, join the telegram t.me/HolocaustERC

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok so I started my own moving company 3 months ago after leaving my slave wage job and everything is going better than expected and I can comfortably give my workers $30 per hour. Pol explain how this will end badly because I'm constantly waiting for the other shoe to fall, it just must be something I'm not accounting for that will destroy me out of nowhere. But I account for mileage, insurance, consumables and all that. I also try to give a decent wage to my company too in order to buy better equipment. What am I missing?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      an exwife taking half of it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good point lmao

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boomers don't let ANYONE apprentice unless you're a relative or a family friend.

    The only """trade""" job you can get without connections is a job as a fucking welder for $12 an hour. If you trick enough people you MIGHT be able to get a job for $25/hour with 10 years experience. But if you were capable of hoodwinking people you would've been successful anywhere.

    A 4-year ECE degree from a major school with 2 internships/co-op minimum and a 3.5 GPA is required to be an electrician apprentice if you don't have connections. But "nobody wants to work anymore."

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because less white people and less testosterone.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has that man ever worked as a tradesman?

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honest truth. Worked manufacturing and was under a union, I would argue that it was trade work since I was a painter. I mad 17.25$ an hour which was dogshit. Honestly it's slave labor.

    Every day I come home nasty as shit, I had to take my boots off outside my door to the apartment and regularly tracked in paint.

    Regularly inhaling paint fumes from the line and the baking machine they used wasn't good. Even fans in the facility were black. Once we had a fire we had to come back in 24 hours later to help not only clean out the water but breathe in those fumes.

    There was no AC in the facility so I quit during the summer.

    My back hurt every single night.

    I'm happier making the same amount cleaning at a local gym and literally doing 1 hour worth of work then lifting weights after. Getting paid to do cardio and help random people. I just wear a shirt that has the gym name on it and employee on the back.

    Easiest gig ever. No one wants to bust their ass doing shit work.

    Now I have flexibility, I'm back in college instead of pushing 40 hours of max productivity. I can work on the clock and my boss thinks I'm a gold star because I really deep clean my ass off and dedicate days to extensive work when it's needed.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Red tape and boomer bosses.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because most of them are terrible jobs if you don't own the company.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Learning that shit is useful even if you want the system to crumble. When it goes down you don't want to be the guy begging his neighbors for help.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. There are good places to live outside of America.
    2. Doesn't mean what he thinks it means.
    3. Most jobs are bad and only exist because our system would collapse without busywork to maintain consumption.
    4. Passion and enthusiasm can't be forced onto any circumstance.
    5. Only reasonable thing on this list, but even then a mortgage is better than a tent.
    6. OSHA would beg to differ
    7. Only if it's for time theft then this is based.
    8. Only works if you have no family dependent on your income.
    9. Dicking around at the library is not a replacement for instructions and directed learning with classmates
    10. Meaningless boomer sentimental bullshit.
    11. Always said by people that make it more unfair than it has to be.
    12. Laziness is subjective if it's even real, sleep is a biological necessity, and work isn't inherently productive.

    I forgot how much I hate this drama student.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lies their laying people off and plus no American Is going to do hard labor for 12.00hr

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sigh. These threads are tiresome. Lets just start with the fact Mike Rowe has a degree in marketing or some garbage and his first job outta college was with an opera or something. That and beaners. You wanna work with beaners for $13/hr? Do ya punk?

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