Why are the ancient roman roads so much better than our terrible american roads?

Why are the ancient roman roads so much better than our terrible american roads, IQfy?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    wow, it's almost like ancient roads were not bothered by constant car and truck transportation, that puts immense stress on the structure!
    pic related is in pompei, where it wasn't much used for several hundreds of years. go ahead, try and build a roman road today and send heavy traffic to it. I'll watch with popcorn

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Do you think this anon cares that he's wrong

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >why did the road that was literally just a bunch of rocks embedded in the ground for people to walk on last longer than the road designed for multi ton vehicles to drive on
      I don't know anon it's a mystery really.

      also most Roman roads were built in places that don't have a winter freeze-thaw cycle to completely destabilize the underbed of the road for months every year

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >wow, it's almost like ancient roads were not bothered by constant car and truck transportation, that puts immense stress on the structure!
      They did have horse-drawn carts, though

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Which is nowhere near comparable to 5 ton Trains

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Not nearly as heavy or destructive for roads as cars.

          what about when nephilim were riding them?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >nephilim
            Killed in the flood way before Rome was even conceptualized

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The roads in Rome have grooves worn in them from the constant horse drawn traffic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        and they were... groovy

        Stfu non engineer. Roads are still built like the romans did generally. Compacting various grades of sand and gravel and topped with a hard wearing material.

        So yea, one can build a "roman" road and it would be OK. In fact, such a road would calm traffic since you won't drive above 15 mph due to the cobblestone effect.

        >you won't drive above 15 mph
        then it makes no use and sense
        also romans did not use hard rocks like granite => haha surface goes brrrr

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not nearly as heavy or destructive for roads as cars.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Stfu non engineer. Roads are still built like the romans did generally. Compacting various grades of sand and gravel and topped with a hard wearing material.

      So yea, one can build a "roman" road and it would be OK. In fact, such a road would calm traffic since you won't drive above 15 mph due to the cobblestone effect.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >it'll work is everyone drives at walking pace

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >15 mph
          >walking pace
          You walk a mile in 4 minutes?

          I think you confused 15 minutes a mile, a pretty leisure walking pace, for 15 mph.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cope more lib
      >LE FACT CHECK

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That is a good argument. But even back then, people still loaded up about as much they could on their carriages and had 4 mules pulling on it. That's just life
      But no, they didn't have 18 wheelers loaded with 15 tons of material... Lots of these roads today wear down with nothing but the weather

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        even the le perfect roman roads required constant maintentance.
        when Julius Caesar became a curator of Via Appia, it was in such a misarable condition he made a good political campaign by borrowing and investing vast amounts of money to repair it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit they made reddit into a IQfy post!!!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cope

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Damage to roads is mainly caused by trucks and buses.
        Roadway damage caused by a vehicles is proportional to the single axle load raised to the fourth power, so doubling the weight an axle carries causes 16 times (2x2x2x2) as much damage

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          There are more cars, transporting fewer people, than buses though

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >why did the road that was literally just a bunch of rocks embedded in the ground for people to walk on last longer than the road designed for multi ton vehicles to drive on
    I don't know anon it's a mystery really.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    THINK OF THE FRICKING BUDGET, ANON!

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In before someone claims Roman roads are still used in Europe. Yes, either as delicate museum pieces that are under cover and fenced off, or are entirely modern road surfaces that happen to follow the route of the Roman road because they're linking the same places.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We had it for the longest time over here in serbistan, the only issue was it was slippery during winter due to the cracks between the rocks being frozen

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >suggests then that we build better roads but at a higher cost
    >NOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKING TAX DOLLEROINONS I NEED THEM HECCKING MUNS FOR MY CHIBBY BABIES AND ONIONS INFUSED DILDOS< I NEED TO CONSUME< FRICK OFF WITH YOUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJETCS THAT ARE OBJECTIVLY BENIFICIAL TOWARS EVERYONE, IF I DONT PROLASPSE MY ANUS WITHA NEW DRAGON DILDO EVERY WEEK THEN I DIDNT CONSOOOOOOM ENOUGH

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There's no reason to spend more money on surface roads for car traffic because car traffic fricking destroys roads regardless of what they're made of, and asphalt is a literal waste byproduct of cracking oil for gasoline that needs to be used for something to prevent it just piling the frick up.
      If you don't want your roads to suck, you need to segregate load-bearing vehicle traffic from passenger traffic.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        or stop subsidizing trucking and return to train freight

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          But anon think of the loses that that would have on the poor oil companies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Your taxes are for bombing people in foreign countries, and paying for the sexual reassignment surgery of minors. They don't go towards building roads - they go teachers who read Dr Seuss books to children in drag, you fricking groomer.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        checked. But your taxes go toward interest on the national debt, not much else. and nothing else eventually.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >drives f-150 over trillion dollar public subsidized roads destroying them in the process
      >no you need to spend another trillion because I can't drive a vehicle that doesn't adequately compensate for my micropenis
      >even though our nation is already too broke to afford healthcare or education cause of roads we need to spend even more on roads.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        An F150 weighs less than most midsize BEV's

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's cars, roads could last forever if it was just people who walked or rode bikes. The weight of thousands of cars driving on the asphalt is what destroys it and wears it down. Cargays are aome of the most subsidized people on the planet, while taking the most out of the system and giving back the least (unless you count the wealth transfer to the owner class because you need to go into debt for a car and then spend thousands on fuel maintenance and insurance a good thing.)
    Those roman roads didn't have thousands of multi ton machines driving over it for 24 hours a day. It's ironic how less cars are a good thing for cargays. Cars have so much downsides for society less of them is good for people who own cars.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >asphalt
      bonding agents in asphalt are biodegradable and will naturally break apart over 100 years or less depending on the mix and exposure to UV and moisture. Concrete roads however are eternal in the same sense as rock formations.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      winter thawing-freezing and road salt would still frick them up, but yeah, like 90% of the damage is from heavy vehicles

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The worst damage is usually done by overzealous snowplows who wait all season to make their money on snow days

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Cargays are aome of the most subsidized people on the planet, while taking the most out of the system and giving back the least
      You must not have heard of black "people"

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How many 18 wheeled semis are going over a roman road every day in 114AD

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Roman engineers and architects didn't have "degrees" per se but they certainly spent their life learning the science, the actual laborers followed their orders just like your imported beaners and Black folks do today.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Here's the architect and water engineer Frontinus, on the maintenance (not even the construction) of aqueducts:

      >116 It remains to speak of the maintenance of the conduits; but before I say anything about this, a little explanation should be given about the gangs of slaves established for this purpose. There are two of those gangs, one belonging to the State, the other to Caesar. The one belonging to the State is the older, which, as we have said, was left by Agrippa to Augustus, and was by him made over to the p449 State.166 It numbers about 240 men. The number in Caesar's gang is 460; it was organized by Claudius at the time he brought his aqueduct into the City.
      >117 Both gangs are divided into several classes of workmen: overseers, reservoir-keepers, inspectors, pavers, plasterers, and other workmen; of these, some must be outside the city for purposes which do not seem to require any great amount of work, but yet demand prompt attention; the men inside the city at their stations at the reservoirs and fountains will devote their energies to the several works, especially in case of sudden emergencies, in order that a plentiful reserve supply of water may be turned from several wards of the city to one afflicted by an emergency. Both of these large gangs, which regularly were diverted by exercise of favouritism, or by negligence of their foremen, to employment on private work, I resolved to bring back to some discipline and to the service of the State, by writing down the day before what each gang was going to do, and by putting in the records what it had done each day.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The numerous and extensive works are continually falling into decay, and they must be attended to before they begin to demand extensive repair. Very often, however, it is best to exercise a wise restraint in attending to their upkeep, since those who urge the construction or extension of the works cannot always be trusted. The water-commissioner, therefore, not only ought to be provided with competent advisers, but ought also to be equipped with practical experience of his own. He must consult not only the architects of his own office, but must also seek aid from the trustworthy and thorough knowledge of numerous other persons, in order to judge what must be taken in hand forthwith, and what postponed, and, again, what is to be carried out by public contractors and what by his own regular workmen.

        As you can see, engineering work in the Roman empire was done much like engineering work today.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >As you can see, engineering work in the Roman empire was done much like engineering work today.

          This, how much difference do you think it makes when it is the army financing road construction instead of civil authorities? The Roman army was legendary for their engineers

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    try to find surviving roman roads in England or northern France where it gets below 0 in the winter. Hell, even look at modern aged roads in the southwest that have gotten away with 50 years of tar patching. In contrast, a road in minnesota would be lucky to survive 5 years

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is the kind of shitty meme by historically-illiterate father likes to share

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    because of the fricking heavy load semis. like the other anon said, all heavy freight traffic should be moved to the more efficient trains.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    American roads were built for large cars and trucks, not horses like Roman roads.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just take the orange pill you dumb homosexuals

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    morons cutting down costs + using meme materials like asphalt (unwanted side-product of producing gas)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      good luck driving above 100 km/h on roman road with 40-ton truck
      1) you cracks the stone cover
      2) you tear out the stone cover
      3) oh, there are additional 200 trucks going the same track the same day? that's just too bad
      4) stones are now everywhere
      5) water fills the gaps, freezes overnight, tearning everything apart
      gj

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When did Degrees come into existence? Like a 1000 years later.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >singifianctly less stress applied to them by cold weather and automobile traffic
    >significantly thinner and accomodating less traffic and smaller vehicles than modern roads
    >takes siginicantly longer time to build than modern needs can allow for

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >modern needs
      Replacing the walking man with the vehicle in every single street was never a need.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >we don't need cars in cities
        >why is everything so expensive now

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Who are thou quoting

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          We don't need cars in cities, that is an American invention made to milk people's money, like a subscription service for gas, tires, etc., it's a ponzi scheme. Europe doesn't have nearly as many car roads and things are not way more expensive than in America.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >We don't need cars in cities
            That's total bullshit and you know it. Public transportation can cover everyone's needs at all. I drive because the best bus route to work goes along a roundabout route.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >muh bus
            That's why you need to contrast an adequate tram network, chud-kun.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >we need cars because we don't build decent public transit because we need cars
            Fricking genius logic right here bud

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Modern roads failing every few years is a feature, not a bug. Someone has to keep all the road crew contractors fat dumb and happy.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How many roads did the Romans build vs how many roads are in the Us and before you answer that, first give me a brief overview of your grasp of economics.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cars

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because of capitalism. Why would you create a permanent road when you can create a shitty road that will always need to be repaired thus ensuring your company gets to keep making profits?

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A single day of traffic today is more wear and tear on a road than 1000 years of ancient traffic.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Going over cobbled roads in carriages must be pure buttrape.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >buttrape
      greeks be like

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