Why are the ancient roman roads so much better than our terrible american roads, LULZ?
Why are the ancient roman roads so much better than our terrible american roads?
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wow, it's almost like ancient roads were not bothered by constant car and truck transportation, that puts immense stress on the structure!
pic related is in pompei, where it wasn't much used for several hundreds of years. go ahead, try and build a roman road today and send heavy traffic to it. I'll watch with popcorn
Do you think this anon cares that he's wrong
also most Roman roads were built in places that don't have a winter freeze-thaw cycle to completely destabilize the underbed of the road for months every year
>wow, it's almost like ancient roads were not bothered by constant car and truck transportation, that puts immense stress on the structure!
They did have horse-drawn carts, though
Which is nowhere near comparable to 5 ton Trains
what about when nephilim were riding them?
Killed in the flood way before Rome was even conceptualized
The roads in Rome have grooves worn in them from the constant horse drawn traffic
and they were... groovy
>you won't drive above 15 mph
then it makes no use and sense
also romans did not use hard rocks like granite => haha surface goes brrrr
Not nearly as heavy or destructive for roads as cars.
Stfu non engineer. Roads are still built like the romans did generally. Compacting various grades of sand and gravel and topped with a hard wearing material.
So yea, one can build a "roman" road and it would be OK. In fact, such a road would calm traffic since you won't drive above 15 mph due to the cobblestone effect.
>it'll work is everyone drives at walking pace
You walk a mile in 4 minutes?
I think you confused 15 minutes a mile, a pretty leisure walking pace, for 15 mph.
Cope more lib
>LE FACT CHECK
That is a good argument. But even back then, people still loaded up about as much they could on their carriages and had 4 mules pulling on it. That's just life
But no, they didn't have 18 wheelers loaded with 15 tons of material... Lots of these roads today wear down with nothing but the weather
even the le perfect roman roads required constant maintentance.
when Julius Caesar became a curator of Via Appia, it was in such a misarable condition he made a good political campaign by borrowing and investing vast amounts of money to repair it
holy shit they made reddit into a LULZ post!!!
Damage to roads is mainly caused by trucks and buses.
Roadway damage caused by a vehicles is proportional to the single axle load raised to the fourth power, so doubling the weight an axle carries causes 16 times (2x2x2x2) as much damage
There are more cars, transporting fewer people, than buses though
>why did the road that was literally just a bunch of rocks embedded in the ground for people to walk on last longer than the road designed for multi ton vehicles to drive on
I don't know anon it's a mystery really.
THINK OF THE FUCKING BUDGET, ANON!
In before someone claims Roman roads are still used in Europe. Yes, either as delicate museum pieces that are under cover and fenced off, or are entirely modern road surfaces that happen to follow the route of the Roman road because they're linking the same places.
We had it for the longest time over here in serbistan, the only issue was it was slippery during winter due to the cracks between the rocks being frozen
>suggests then that we build better roads but at a higher cost
>NOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKING TAX DOLLEROINONS I NEED THEM HECCKING MUNS FOR MY CHIBBY BABIES AND ONIONS INFUSED DILDOS< I NEED TO CONSUME< FUCK OFF WITH YOUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJETCS THAT ARE OBJECTIVLY BENIFICIAL TOWARS EVERYONE, IF I DONT PROLASPSE MY ANUS WITHA NEW DRAGON DILDO EVERY WEEK THEN I DIDNT CONSOOOOOOM ENOUGH
There's no reason to spend more money on surface roads for car traffic because car traffic fucking destroys roads regardless of what they're made of, and asphalt is a literal waste byproduct of cracking oil for gasoline that needs to be used for something to prevent it just piling the fuck up.
If you don't want your roads to suck, you need to segregate load-bearing vehicle traffic from passenger traffic.
or stop subsidizing trucking and return to train freight
But anon think of the loses that that would have on the poor oil companies
Your taxes are for bombing people in foreign countries, and paying for the sexual reassignment surgery of minors. They don't go towards building roads - they go teachers who read Dr Seuss books to children in drag, you fucking groomer.
checked. But your taxes go toward interest on the national debt, not much else. and nothing else eventually.
>drives f-150 over trillion dollar public subsidized roads destroying them in the process
>no you need to spend another trillion because I can't drive a vehicle that doesn't adequately compensate for my micropenis
>even though our nation is already too broke to afford healthcare or education cause of roads we need to spend even more on roads.
An F150 weighs less than most midsize BEV's
It's cars, roads could last forever if it was just people who walked or rode bikes. The weight of thousands of cars driving on the asphalt is what destroys it and wears it down. Carfags are aome of the most subsidized people on the planet, while taking the most out of the system and giving back the least (unless you count the wealth transfer to the owner class because you need to go into debt for a car and then spend thousands on fuel maintenance and insurance a good thing.)
Those roman roads didn't have thousands of multi ton machines driving over it for 24 hours a day. It's ironic how less cars are a good thing for carfags. Cars have so much downsides for society less of them is good for people who own cars.
bonding agents in asphalt are biodegradable and will naturally break apart over 100 years or less depending on the mix and exposure to UV and moisture. Concrete roads however are eternal in the same sense as rock formations.
winter thawing-freezing and road salt would still fuck them up, but yeah, like 90% of the damage is from heavy vehicles
The worst damage is usually done by overzealous snowplows who wait all season to make their money on snow days
>Carfags are aome of the most subsidized people on the planet, while taking the most out of the system and giving back the least
You must not have heard of black "people"
How many 18 wheeled semis are going over a roman road every day in 114AD
Roman engineers and architects didn't have "degrees" per se but they certainly spent their life learning the science, the actual laborers followed their orders just like your imported beaners and negroes do today.
Here's the architect and water engineer Frontinus, on the maintenance (not even the construction) of aqueducts:
>116 It remains to speak of the maintenance of the conduits; but before I say anything about this, a little explanation should be given about the gangs of slaves established for this purpose. There are two of those gangs, one belonging to the State, the other to Caesar. The one belonging to the State is the older, which, as we have said, was left by Agrippa to Augustus, and was by him made over to the p449 State.166 It numbers about 240 men. The number in Caesar's gang is 460; it was organized by Claudius at the time he brought his aqueduct into the City.
>117 Both gangs are divided into several classes of workmen: overseers, reservoir-keepers, inspectors, pavers, plasterers, and other workmen; of these, some must be outside the city for purposes which do not seem to require any great amount of work, but yet demand prompt attention; the men inside the city at their stations at the reservoirs and fountains will devote their energies to the several works, especially in case of sudden emergencies, in order that a plentiful reserve supply of water may be turned from several wards of the city to one afflicted by an emergency. Both of these large gangs, which regularly were diverted by exercise of favouritism, or by negligence of their foremen, to employment on private work, I resolved to bring back to some discipline and to the service of the State, by writing down the day before what each gang was going to do, and by putting in the records what it had done each day.
>The numerous and extensive works are continually falling into decay, and they must be attended to before they begin to demand extensive repair. Very often, however, it is best to exercise a wise restraint in attending to their upkeep, since those who urge the construction or extension of the works cannot always be trusted. The water-commissioner, therefore, not only ought to be provided with competent advisers, but ought also to be equipped with practical experience of his own. He must consult not only the architects of his own office, but must also seek aid from the trustworthy and thorough knowledge of numerous other persons, in order to judge what must be taken in hand forthwith, and what postponed, and, again, what is to be carried out by public contractors and what by his own regular workmen.
As you can see, engineering work in the Roman empire was done much like engineering work today.
>As you can see, engineering work in the Roman empire was done much like engineering work today.
This, how much difference do you think it makes when it is the army financing road construction instead of civil authorities? The Roman army was legendary for their engineers
try to find surviving roman roads in England or northern France where it gets below 0 in the winter. Hell, even look at modern aged roads in the southwest that have gotten away with 50 years of tar patching. In contrast, a road in minnesota would be lucky to survive 5 years
This is the kind of shitty meme by historically-illiterate father likes to share
because of the fucking heavy load semis. like the other anon said, all heavy freight traffic should be moved to the more efficient trains.
American roads were built for large cars and trucks, not horses like Roman roads.
Just take the orange pill you dumb homosexuals
Retards cutting down costs + using meme materials like asphalt (unwanted side-product of producing gas)
good luck driving above 100 km/h on roman road with 40-ton truck
1) you cracks the stone cover
2) you tear out the stone cover
3) oh, there are additional 200 trucks going the same track the same day? that's just too bad
4) stones are now everywhere
5) water fills the gaps, freezes overnight, tearning everything apart
When did Degrees come into existence? Like a 1000 years later.
>singifianctly less stress applied to them by cold weather and automobile traffic
>significantly thinner and accomodating less traffic and smaller vehicles than modern roads
>takes siginicantly longer time to build than modern needs can allow for
Replacing the walking man with the vehicle in every single street was never a need.
>we don't need cars in cities
>why is everything so expensive now
Who are thou quoting
We don't need cars in cities, that is an American invention made to milk people's money, like a subscription service for gas, tires, etc., it's a ponzi scheme. Europe doesn't have nearly as many car roads and things are not way more expensive than in America.
>We don't need cars in cities
That's total bullshit and you know it. Public transportation can cover everyone's needs at all. I drive because the best bus route to work goes along a roundabout route.
That's why you need to contrast an adequate tram network, chud-kun.
>we need cars because we don't build decent public transit because we need cars
Fucking genius logic right here bud
Modern roads failing every few years is a feature, not a bug. Someone has to keep all the road crew contractors fat dumb and happy.
How many roads did the Romans build vs how many roads are in the Us and before you answer that, first give me a brief overview of your grasp of economics.
Because of capitalism. Why would you create a permanent road when you can create a shitty road that will always need to be repaired thus ensuring your company gets to keep making profits?
A single day of traffic today is more wear and tear on a road than 1000 years of ancient traffic.
Going over cobbled roads in carriages must be pure buttrape.
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