He’s a great poet but his imitators created a disgusting trend that continues today. It’s not that he’s bad but that his influence was negative. Same goes for Tolkien
>Hemingway gave us the Iceberg Theory which has been the ice cube in the tepid, moldering glass of literature for the entire 20th century.
This theory has ruined the majority of the recent books, they are all fucking alike, and this theory had taken the place of all theories, because this theory says that you can without any effort, and is a lie.
I believe he just doesn't like how the bulk of all context is never treated with at all and is left implied, and thus very little effort need be expended by the writer to make a truly rigid thing since it's made them complacent on the reader filling in the gravitas by themselves.. a bit like Dark Souls now that I consider it.
>read classics how Gilgamesh >read books of mythology >study philosophy to not follow an idea that you don't comprehend >read religious books in any case, for example, Leonardo da Vinci suggested using the Bible for writing
>do research in other words
I believe he just doesn't like how the bulk of all context is never treated with at all and is left implied, and thus very little effort need be expended by the writer to make a truly rigid thing since it's made them complacent on the reader filling in the gravitas by themselves.. a bit like Dark Souls now that I consider it.
Not right my friend.
Jumping many points is a disgusting thing, all the points in a story are fundamental, for example, Euripides gave space and a role to the background actor, but not a speed role but an important role, read The Trojan Women.
Accesibility is always inherently more popular than things that aren't. For a lot of American readers, they would rather read the same simple prose by the same authors in the exact same genre. Instead of reading something that needs more context and hard-working thought to get base enjoyment. Theirs nothing really wrong with enjoying both of these styles of approach unless the culture highly values these accessible writers over others. That's the main problem of American readers, not that accesible writers are popular. Its that they dominate the cultural zeitgeist of literature because a lot of readers are complacent to always reading accesible books
Even in the mid-18th century Americans were said to speak 'without idiom', meaning in a quite monotonous way and without the regional variation of the English language's homeland. I think a combination of Puritan love of simplicity, and a need for easy communication between linguistically-distinct immigrant groups, is the reason why Americans love writers like King and Sanderson
And his books suck because of it, no one remenbers 1984 or animal farm by their characters or prose or story, they remember the conecepts and political implications
>Before, I looked upon the accounts of vice and injustice, that I read in books or heard from others, as tales of ancient days, or imaginary evils; at least they were remote, and more familiar to reason than to the imagination; but now misery has come home, and men appear to me as monsters thirsting for each other's blood.
An american said I was ESL for writting this (it is a direct quote from frankenstein)
You mean why are American *normies* obsessed with that shit- normies in any country have shit taste in books as in media generally, the Americans are just more numerous and more online. The US has produced tons of exciting prose stylists you apparently haven't read- Hawkes, Gaddis, Faulkner, I could go on.
Guys like King are better suited to film adaptations, a medium that's much bigger in America than literature, so it's no shock his is a name everyone knows.
>complaining about soulless entertainment
>anime pic
Because America is the land of the domesticated cattle. There's a reason why Anton Chigurgh went around murdering people with a captive bolt pistol
Too long, didn't read. Back 2 tiktok.
And just like that, nearly everything about No Country slid into place in my mind.
It's easy to understand and Americans are stupid.
No one reads Sanderson for the prose though do they?
It’s downstream from Hemingway. He ruined prose forever just like Eliot ruined poetry
>just like Eliot ruined poetry
How did Eliot ruin poetry?
He’s a great poet but his imitators created a disgusting trend that continues today. It’s not that he’s bad but that his influence was negative. Same goes for Tolkien
I see.
Hemingway gave us the Iceberg Theory which has been the ice cube in the tepid, moldering glass of literature for the entire 20th century.
>Hemingway gave us the Iceberg Theory which has been the ice cube in the tepid, moldering glass of literature for the entire 20th century.
This theory has ruined the majority of the recent books, they are all fucking alike, and this theory had taken the place of all theories, because this theory says that you can without any effort, and is a lie.
What do you propose a writer do instead?
I believe he just doesn't like how the bulk of all context is never treated with at all and is left implied, and thus very little effort need be expended by the writer to make a truly rigid thing since it's made them complacent on the reader filling in the gravitas by themselves.. a bit like Dark Souls now that I consider it.
>What do you propose a writer do instead?
Good question, here's my answer:
>read classics how Gilgamesh
>read books of mythology
>study philosophy to not follow an idea that you don't comprehend
>read religious books in any case, for example, Leonardo da Vinci suggested using the Bible for writing
>do research in other words
Not right my friend.
Jumping many points is a disgusting thing, all the points in a story are fundamental, for example, Euripides gave space and a role to the background actor, but not a speed role but an important role, read The Trojan Women.
Damn, you sound like a redditor.
What is 'unclean' prose?
Also I don't see how Kings and Sandersons prose is comparable in any way
> What is 'unclean' prose?
Baroque, purple, complex prose
God, I miss it.
>easy to read
>easy to understand
>easy to copy
Easy cash.
Pretty much
I am going to revive prose from the Hemingway sounding death rattle
matches the american soul bland generic and marketable
Accesibility is always inherently more popular than things that aren't. For a lot of American readers, they would rather read the same simple prose by the same authors in the exact same genre. Instead of reading something that needs more context and hard-working thought to get base enjoyment. Theirs nothing really wrong with enjoying both of these styles of approach unless the culture highly values these accessible writers over others. That's the main problem of American readers, not that accesible writers are popular. Its that they dominate the cultural zeitgeist of literature because a lot of readers are complacent to always reading accesible books
>Why do people read entertaining, fun and easy to read books instead of my le deep obscure 19th century slop?
Even in the mid-18th century Americans were said to speak 'without idiom', meaning in a quite monotonous way and without the regional variation of the English language's homeland. I think a combination of Puritan love of simplicity, and a need for easy communication between linguistically-distinct immigrant groups, is the reason why Americans love writers like King and Sanderson
Brevity is the soul of wit.
sounds like he's trying to sell me a jar of old-fashioned fruit preserves
“Does he really think big emotions come from big words?”
Nice strawman, Hemingay. Globohomo prose is cringe.
i mean, is this even true? pynchon is wildly experimental and beautiful.
>why are americans writing and selling the most books, to the demographic that consumes the most books?
why indeed
Hemingway.
Its not just an American thing. George Orwell is one of the biggest reps of the simple style.
And his books suck because of it, no one remenbers 1984 or animal farm by their characters or prose or story, they remember the conecepts and political implications
>Before, I looked upon the accounts of vice and injustice, that I read in books or heard from others, as tales of ancient days, or imaginary evils; at least they were remote, and more familiar to reason than to the imagination; but now misery has come home, and men appear to me as monsters thirsting for each other's blood.
An american said I was ESL for writting this (it is a direct quote from frankenstein)
You mean why are American *normies* obsessed with that shit- normies in any country have shit taste in books as in media generally, the Americans are just more numerous and more online. The US has produced tons of exciting prose stylists you apparently haven't read- Hawkes, Gaddis, Faulkner, I could go on.
Guys like King are better suited to film adaptations, a medium that's much bigger in America than literature, so it's no shock his is a name everyone knows.
I want to fill Hotaru with all the cream inside me...