WHY

WHY ONLY 2.3 LITER FOR MANUAL TRANNY
WHHHYYYYYYY
GIB ME BIG TITTY MILKIE HONKING V8
WHHHYYYYYY FUCK U WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it wouldn’t be ford without some monumental israeli bullshit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's the eternal humiliation ritual of Ford because of that whole "The International israelite" thing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That whole "The international israelite" thing?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Henry Ford got a reputation for being an antisemite by acquiring a newspaper and shortly thereafter it published some antisemitic articles that got republished later in a book. How much he had to do with the articles and/or how much he exercised editorial control of the paper is debatable. There's at least some anecdotal evidence of him going on some diatribes privately about the israeli problem as a ton of them came to the US post-WWI. If you want to read some kvetching over it, here you go:

          https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/henryford-antisemitism/

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wtf I love ford now

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ironic that a recent ford ceo, mark fields, is a israelite

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's just the type of desecration you can expect from them. The Ford Foundation is also pure globohomo.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's a V8 on the way for the F-150 Raptor. Not sure if it's going to be offered in a manual, or if it will trickle down to the Bronco.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And it’s like 120k. Fuck you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ok cool that only took 5 fucking years for them to remember you can fit the Coyote in a f150

      what pissed me off the most is they advertised the new bronco as having the heart of a mustang. but lol no v8 like we were implying, get fucked here's an undersized engine being overworked in a 4000+lb chonker, it was really worth it as you can see by the whopping 21 mpg.

      And what's really shit is how in 10 years this board will look back on these days fondly and wish to return to them.

      The days continue to get darker.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This, look at MPG numbers for the V8 4Runner and V8 H3 and compare them across the board for the Bronco. Take into factor those engines were designed 20 years ago with ancient transmissions and no fuel saving tricks and riddle me how a modern V8 in the Bronco couldn’t do just as good if not better than the lawnmower engines they put in them.

        Ford’s so invested in ecoboost they would go out of business to admit fault and move back to normal engines. There’s no other possible explanation why they keep forcing these turds on the public.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's worse is the V8 coyote fits too. They have a Baja racer with it in it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They have a Baja racer with no AC or other none-essential BS, a full support crew of mechanics and the ability to tear the whole truck apart on a whim if anything goes wrong with it in it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes anon. I wasn't saying it would require adjustment, but it fits.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you weren't going to buy one anyway

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes I was, in a few years once the economy mellows out and they can be had for like $30k ($15k in 2019 dollars)

      I'll probably never buy any new cars because used are ( normally) so much better of a deal. But if they aren't making anything worth buying today I can't buy it tomorrow, so I still have a dog in this race.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll probably never buy any new cars because used are ( normally) so much better of a deal.
        "Why don't car companies cater to my needs?!"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so true. o is full of window shopping seething poor fags. if op wanted a base spec green bronco he'd have ordered one, the manual and engine excuses are just coping from an unmotivated broke bitch who lives on the sidelines

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t.seething carlot salesman

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no 7.3 and TR6060 trim
    Why live?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they'll offer a body in white from Ford Racing and then you could build your own?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Explain to me the appeal of manual trans in an offroader? How are you supposed to wrestle three pedals while also stuck on a rock at a 45 degree angle and about to tip over?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very carefully.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you serious?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >put the vehicle into second gear
      >stay in second gear until stopped or moving faster than 30mph which is unlikely while offroading

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Benchracers don’t off-road or buy new cars, lmaooooo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cuz it's fun, bitch boy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      mall parking lots are flat and aren't covered with boulders

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >aren't covered with boulders
        That's were you're wrong pal

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why are Americans so fucking dumb?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Our school system is run by democrats

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Women*, obsessed yuropoor

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody in this thread, or on this board drives a manual offroader, nor will they ever buy one. everyone here is a larper

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've had Jeeps and tacomas in manual I'd offroad. It's not hard

      • 2 months ago
        death to israel.

        out on my yard right now is a 302 np435 bronco and a 03 tj, ligma.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Think again nagger homosexual, I do. And it's way more fun than auto, unless you do like 7/10 trails and above. And no, i won't post it, because it would be incredibly obvious who I was.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have manual one and would honestly like auto more.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's why baja is based. getting to rip around the dunes/dirt roads in a 7.3 7 speed bronco? hell yeah

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Manuals handle submersion better than autos

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not hard to seal either tho.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rock crawling =/= off-roading.

      Rock crawling is specialized like mud pits.
      Go watch some baja 500/1000 clips.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you can’t drive a manual transmission in low range 4wd where the idle speed is less than 1mph you should unironically kill yourself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's why real off road vehicles have reduction gearboxes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've driven both offroad. A stick offers greater control and is far more comfortable. Being in low range in an auto you have to stand on the brakes while with a stick it's just let the clutch out normally. Plus you can't kill it in low.

      nobody in this thread, or on this board drives a manual offroader, nor will they ever buy one. everyone here is a larper

      I own one anon. It's been offroad lots of times.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eh, you like what you like but automatic is objectively superior for off-roading because of the torque converter(lets not even mention that planetary gears are stronger by design)
        Tanks, APCs and military off-road trucks are automatic for a reason

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Tanks, APCs and military off-road trucks are automatic for a reason
          Because enlists are retarded.
          >automatic is objectively superior for off-roading because of the torque converter
          I've used both offroad and found the auto to be a worse experience. A torque converter doesn't matter when in low range, you are not going fast enough for it to make a difference. When in 1st and low range idle is not even 1MPH in a stick.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The torque converter makes it practically impossible to stall and makes it possible for you to be both on the brake and accelerator at the same time basically pushing the vehicle against the brakes making it very easy to keep it from rolling back and losing traction.
            Also your enlisted argument is bullshit.
            T. Was in the army, tank commander of a 70s soviet tracked APC. Stick steering and 6-speed manual transmission, 1-2 unsynced, 3-6 synced very poorly, double clutching mandatory for every shift and you have to be quick on it too. Also the gear you're in effects your turning radius(the steering isn't hydraulic like in modern tracked vehicles, it works more like a gear splitter) so you really need to think a head of your shifts.
            Despite that, every single retard was able to learn it in a week or two.
            Learning to operate a stick shift even in tank isn't hard. Enlisted people learn much harder tasks, even the grunts.
            Automatic is by design superior for off-roading, especially in a heavy vehicle. Only real downside is size and weight vs a standart tranny

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The torque converter makes it practically impossible to stall and makes it possible for you to be both on the brake and accelerator at the same time basically pushing the vehicle against the brakes making it very easy to keep it from rolling back and losing traction.
              Riding the brakes in any situation is retarded. Especially when you're on a cliff side bouncing over rocks. Holding the handbrake and releasing the clutch in a stick gives the same effect as left foot braking and applying some gas in an auto.
              You can prefer what you prefer, however the offroad enthusiast community does prefer stick over auto.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >however the offroad enthusiast community does prefer stick over auto.
                Not in my experience
                Also your handbrake only works the rears and by design has worse feel and less braking power than drive brakes. Also slipping the clutch isn't good for your clutch disc, especially if the vehicle is heavy and terrain is hard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >only works the rears
                With 4WD engaged, the handbrake works all four since the front and rear axles are connected via the transfer case.
                You don't have to slip the clutch in 4 low. Just let it out and you're going a snails pace, the perfect speed to crawl up anything.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >and you're going a snails pace
                only you're not, every manual is geared way too high in low range especially if you also have oversized tires.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >geared way too high in low range especially if you also have oversized tires.
                I've never had any problems with the gearing. My truck goes a slow walking pace in 1st low.
                Only retards don't regear their diffs when installing oversized tires.

                It still just works the rear brakes(or a separate parking brake), even if the axels are locked.
                And no, you aren't going to get up hard terrain without slippin the clutch, especially in a heavier vehicle. No matter what your gearing is, your peak torque isn't at idle.
                Dude, you prefer manual and that's cool. Nothing wrong with that and el manuelo is perfectly cabaple of off-roading but objectively automatic is superior. That's why every single modern army vehicle is automatic.

                Doesn't matter which brakes it operates, all four wheels feel the braking force when engaged. And like normal handbrake usage, it's only used for that brief moment between the standard brakes and releasing the clutch.
                I've never had to slip the clutch to get up something. Just pick a good line at the bottom and give it steady speed up.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, more like the parking brake is feeling all the four wheels if you understand what I mean but yeah, if the rear loses grip the front tires will still be locked but there's the possibility of the rear losing traction and the brake giving out resulting in bad times. That's just speculating I know.
                I don't understand why you can't accept that automatic is superior.
                Can you give me any real cons of automatic that isn't size(as I allready mentioned that), supposed reliability(as it's higly depended on year/make/model/rest of the drivetrain/service) and "muh feel" as that's subjective

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Feel is the biggest reason.
                I've done most of my offroading in the San Juans in Colorado. The auto I've offroaded was a Jeep Wrangler with the Colorado package. It was fine but did not inspire a ton of confidence with the auto since you had to stand on the brakes to keep it from creeping. The Jeep had an 88:1 transfer case so it really wanted to crawl. Further despite being locked in 1st low, I had to often ride the brakes down hilsl to keep the Jeep at a reasonable speed.
                My tacoma I've taken on the same trails has a 44:1 transfer case and idles at less than 1 MPH in 1st low. I wouldn't mind an 88:1 or better transfercase but the current one works very well so no need to change it yet.
                I have found it much easier to offroad since it is easy to hold the handbrake and let out the clutch. I rarely had to touch the standard brakes downhill since the engine braking did a better job despite having the 44:1 transfercase compared to the 88:1 of the Jeep.
                It is just a better experience to me.
                Although this might be a neat mod if I ever feel the need to drop a few grand to go real slow.

                I haven't driven a deuce and a half size rig offroad so if an auto is better there, I wouldn't know.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've driven Kraz-255, Zil-131, Sisu SA-150 (standard tranny) and Sisu ETP (automatic) and the automatic is so much better off-road it's unreal. Also tanks T-54, BMP-1 and MT-LB(standard) and CV90, Leopard 2 and Saurer 4K(automatic, despite the Saurer having an awfully slow automatic) and again, automatic is so much better. Cars I haven't really off-roaded(as in really hard terrain, just basic innawoods stuff: old MB G-wagen and Defender (standart) and Jeep Grand Cherokee automatic and I liked the Jeep way more than the other two

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It still just works the rear brakes(or a separate parking brake), even if the axels are locked.
                And no, you aren't going to get up hard terrain without slippin the clutch, especially in a heavier vehicle. No matter what your gearing is, your peak torque isn't at idle.
                Dude, you prefer manual and that's cool. Nothing wrong with that and el manuelo is perfectly cabaple of off-roading but objectively automatic is superior. That's why every single modern army vehicle is automatic.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Tanks, APCs and military off-road trucks are automatic for a reason
          So retards can drive them
          >t. retard who drove them

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            My buddy used to train people to drive them the stories he's told of the dumbassry is oftentimes so dumb its not a funny story anymore. I tend to respect military types, best friend was army and all, but Holy shit they find some dumb mother fuckers to join up. Course he also told me some shit that kinda scares me about how he can't properly do his job. You can't yell at these new recruits he says. In his heart he's a softie so hes a softie, my whole friend circle is really, so when he's yelling at them for some dumb shit he hardly cares about and they start breaking down crying he's totally disarmed.
            >it's just too wierd, you've got a grown man crying in front of you and all you did was yell at him
            So he left and went to college and shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >low range
      >1st gear
      Crawl at 0.01mph

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this, im all for manuals but rock crawling i would unironically prefer an autotragic

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    rent free

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy an old Bronco, dummy.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just put a mustang 5.0 engine inside lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Better the F150 version with better low end

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wanting a manual in an off-roader is about as dumb as wanting a dual clutch transmission in an off-roader. I’d much rather have a torque multiplier than spend a billion per year on clutches.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      shh keep it down, we don't want OP to discover that he's actually a homosexual who drives off-raoders on the road and has to jerk a stick while doing it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't know how to feather aclutch to climb an obstacle when traction is limited
      >people who like things I don't bad

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s one thing to know how to do something, it’s another entirely to want to do it when buying a brand new vehicle. Way to out yourself as a retard I guess

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don't go offroading to baby it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have you even bought a new vehicle on your own?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah its easier, more reliable and efficient. Also I dont rape rhe clutch rhe entire time, so I dont actually burn them out. You sound too retarded ro drive properly

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >manual
        >more efficient
        Not since they started using 6+ gear autos.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't have a 6 gear manual

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So they can have the enthusiast clout of being available with a manual, but not actually needing to produce it.
    >slap together a manual only available with the shittest trims
    >doesn't sell
    >"well nobody wants to buy manuals anymore :^)"
    >quietly drop it mid-cycle

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Name one Ford product equipped with either the 2.7 or the 3.0 that is offered with a manual.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    is that a jeep?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Real offroaders build their own now fuck off.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They'll make V8 bronco when sales drop off it won't have a manual tho
    Wouldn't surprise me if they made a lwb version too at some point

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd have preferred the 3.0L Vortec 6 cylinder. No turbo. The Vortec 2.5L 4 cylinder and the 3.0L 6 cylinder were perfectly reliable.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been waiting since the 2016 announcement to buy one of these, gotta say I can't think of a worse car to be in the market for right now. At least the Heritage Edition looks good, makes me glad I've waited to buy one.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I can't think of a worse car to be in the market for right now
      Explain

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's basically the highest price for the lowest value. Unless you put in an order two years ago at a dealership that you have a trusted family friend working at, there's basically no way you can get one without paying stupidly high markups. Dealers are basically turning the Bronco market into a bubble because of how often they're being bought and flipped by other dealers. I'd bet more Broncos are being sold to other dealers than to actual owners.
        Plus they just started manufacturing them last year so the inventory is low and it's full of first-year teething problems because this is a brand new car that Ford is making, they've already had to issue recall on faulty hardtops and now engines are blowing with 3,000 miles on the odo and replacements are taking months to get in. I'm sure it'll be a good product in 1 or 2 years when demand has cooled and Ford has worked out all the kinks, but right now you either have to be insanely lucky or autistically thorough and patient to get one of these without getting fucked one way or another.
        I just don't think it's worth the effort for what is, at the end of the day, a slightly more refined Jeep Wrangler.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The two door in the higher specs looks kino. The 4 door is totally gay and boring.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I had to switch dealers and even fight with the one I selected to avoid markup cost. I love mine but I don’t think it’s worth and extra 10k on top of msrp.
          Unless I was rich of course. Then it wouldn’t matter.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >correct number of doors
            >correct color
            Nice.

            >he doesn't have a 6 gear manual

            I do, actually. But the auto version of my car still gets better gas mileage.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ferd smoothbrains were touting the death of jeep when the bronco comes out
          >is even more of an unreliable shitpile than an FCA product
          why do american manufacturers just shit all over each other like this? Bailouts were a mistake

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            1: Ford didn’t take a bailout.
            2: My bronco is plenty reliable. Absolutely 0 issues going to and from the mall.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >1: Ford didn’t take a bailout.
              Ford took billions in federal funds.
              https://www.cars.com/articles/report-ford-took-federal-funds-too-1420663183195/

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They took billions in loans, while I’m sure they still got a kick ass interest rate, a loan and bailout are not the same.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Absolutely 0 issues going to and from the mall.
              Neither the 2.7l nor 2.3l can stay running for an extended period, they both have atrocious service records.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What is an extended period of time?
                I’ve been stuck in traffic for hours on my way to the regional big mall multiple times and still no issues

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >2: My bronco is plenty reliable. Absolutely 0 issues going to and from the mall.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black hardtop? This isn't a production version, is it? The only top avail is grey.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a pre-production painted hardtop.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they had shortenned the engine bay by 15cm it would be a decent offroader

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The black hardtop looks 10x better than that grey. Is it grey because they STILL can't figure out how not to make them fade? Do they have any plans to bring back the black hardtop? How can Jeep figure out black hardtops but Ford can't?

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What’s the fucking point? You could build a 10/15x better off-roader at half the budget of pic related. The world has gone mad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The best off roader has a shorter wheel base. You don't want a long wheelbase under a pickup truck for a 'good' off roader. That is, if you're doing off roading under 35mph.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Remember what they took from you

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can still buy these. I have one parked in my driveway.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            really? pics please. those are dope as fuck

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Mine's a 2020, but you could configure a 2022 in the exact same way. Dealers rarely order them, so I special ordered mine with the options that I wanted.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit I didn't know you could still get a single cab. I was looking at getting an extended cab Ranger but this seems like the better choice. Thanks anon.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                These are great until you realize this SOB is $38k brand new with the V8.

                At that point extended cab just makes too much sense.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is it even worth getting the v8 with ferd? All their engines are unreliable garbage so might as well go with the ecoboost and save some gas

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >egoboost
                >economical
                There’s less than 1mpg real-world difference between the EB and the V8 equivalent, and in exchange you get an engine significantly more complex with more points of failure

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've driven the eco boost ford trucks as well as the V8 varients, the gas mileage different is negligible. Maybe because the smaller engines are underpowered for a truck that size? Never was a fan of any turbo engines, i prefer NA for the simplicity/longevity

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mine's a 2020, but you could configure a 2022 in the exact same way. Dealers rarely order them, so I special ordered mine with the options that I wanted.

          they took a claustrophobic two door loner pickup truck from you? maybe they were trying to encourage you to buy a quad cab, make friends, get a girlfriend, procreate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrenchlets want to look like they do things with their cars even though they never actually do.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It would probably be cheaper for them just to stick a old tech 5.0l in it. That's government regulations for ya.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ~~*They*~~ made it illegal to make new cars without some fatal flaw that makes it imperfect

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are one of these better than just buying a TJ/LJ/4Runner and having a shop build the whole fucking thing for you if you're going to be spending in the neighborhood of 50k? It ticks the box of being built for you and not by you which some people like, and it seems like the wait time would be similar to getting one of these

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because debt slaves can't get a low interest personal loan for 50k.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fair...but you can start with any of the vehicles I listed and have the engines and transmissions rebuilt with warranties for like what? $5-7k? I've ridden in a nu-bronco and the ride quality is no better than a TJ with a nice balanced suspension and is worlds away from a well built 3rd gen 4runner. Even after baselining you'd still be at under $20k with warrantied work...and that's on the high end. Picrel cost a friend of mine around $11k....it's not a dailyable vehicle but could have been if the build had been slightly less aggressive.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >..it's not a dailyable
          That's the problem. People buy these to daily drive. They will see a gravel road at most.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I also mentioned that it could have been with a slightly less aggressive build. That was built with a 6.0L, twin sticks, and like 18" of travel. It would actually have been cheaper to build it for the road and light off roading.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          A 1999 4runner with 6 gorillion miles is like $30,000 right now you cannot get them cheap unless they are the 2wd versions or are piles of rust

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I bought a 3rd gen Limited in 2020 for $3200 with 168,000 miles on the odometer. Move out of California.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Getting back to the original topic of the thread, some homosexual on YouTube claims he heard from his "sources" the 2023s are going to offer the 3.0 with the 7MT and the only reason the previous ones did not is they had not tested that combination enough yet.
    Who knows if he's telling the truth but now that it's August 1st we unironically only have to wait 2 more weeks to find out

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      * meant 2.7 not 3.0

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck I hope so anon. The 2.7 v6 is a good engine with a decade of real world use and testing to it. The second gen of it also is great. However the 2.3 is laughably sad for such a fat vehicle with massive tires on it.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would have preferred the V6 or V8 but I'm enjoying the manual and the 2.3, I kind of wish jeep made the 2.0T with the stick and not make it V6 only

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the convertible roof doesnt even block rain or snow, so why care at all?

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Toyota lets you order the tacoma with a stick and the V6. It's not a V8, but it's better than a i4.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ford should have done
    >2.7 is base engine, with options for a 5.0 and the 3.5
    >Tranny should have been the beefed up 10 speed in their F150s not the weaker one, and made the 7 speed pair with all of them
    If the 3.5 couldn't fit the 3.0 would be ok I guess. I'm not a huge fan of the eco meme, but the 3.5 has been around for a decade and this current second generation of it is very good.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    V-muttsisters I thought auto trannies were best trannies, what happened!!!

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I saw an ecoboost mustang for the first time today. Hearing that thing take off was just sad lol

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    where are you planning to go offroading?

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