Who was in the wrong here?
The Ottomans and the Hapsburgs.
The Hapsburgs are the protagonists of European History.
Helping bosniaks against serbs was the biggest mistake we ever did, we should have just let them kill each other
Enemy of my enemy is my friend didn't work at all, it completely backfired
Both parties, the Croats, Slovenes, and Muslims for dismantling Yugoslavia over national mythology and religion and the Serbs for chomping out and starting an ethno-religious genocide in return. Tito should have standardized the entire country under the Latin Alphabet and become a unitary republic with Sarajevo as the capital. That way, when decommunization inevitably came the country wouldn't implode into a full on race war.
if it was that easy tito would try it. But even tito barely could mange to keep it all together as it was. Before he came into power there was already a civil war under german occupation. The people didn't want share a country and the only reason they were in a union is because of concern over foreign powers ruling over them again. So they made a compromise. A union would be inevitable after ww1 for safety reasons and the breakup as well when there wasn't any threat anymore.
You think Southern Germans and Northern Germans or Southern Italians and Northern Italians wished to live in the same country initially? Or Scots, Welsh, and English? The hodgepodge of Indian nationalities? The point is these national mythologies and separatist ideologues were suppressed and their political, cultural, and economic systems were synchronized into one system. Had either Tito or the Karadjordjevics attempted to standardize the country the concept of Croatia would be no different from the concept of Bavaria or Naples.
It was much too late for that, if it was done a hundred (or several hundreds) years earlier when national identities across Europe weren't finalized and defined yet, there might've been a chance it would've worked. Maybe
The Germans and Italians had only united 50 years earlier than Yugoslavia and India united 30 years after it. There was no definitive difference between a Serb, Bosniak, or a Croat besides religion and alphabet. Croatia was nothing more than an appendage of Hungary, Slovenia an appendage of Austria, Serbia and Bosnia appendages of Turkey. The only Yugoslav nation to develop any type of independent national consciousness was Serbia and they were the ones who were originally the most happy with the creation of Yugoslavia. They could easily have acted as Prussia or Savoy and create a modern Yugoslav identity rather than just using it as a poly to create a greater Serbia. The only reason Yugoslavia failed was because of Italian, German, and Russian meddling.
Yugoslavia failed because like you literally said s*rbs attempted to turn it into greater serbia instead of a Yugoslav nation like Prussians and Savoyans did in Germany and Italy
They should have modeled it as a loose federation akin to switzerland with liberal capitalism. switzerland is the only functional multiethnic country in europe.
funnelling federal funds to "develop" black holes like kosovo was bound to eternal failure. italy is funnelling billions into its south without any success since its inception.
the major reason why it failed wasnt meddling, it was simply that socialist economics didnt work. in the 80s, there was 20%+ unemployment and 100%+ inflation. having unemployment problems in proletarian paradises dooms you.
I'm sure even in Switzerland richer canton still send money to the poorer ones.
>funnelling federal funds to "develop" black holes like kosovo was bound to eternal failure. italy is funnelling billions into its south without any success since its inception.
It's not "funneling" if it's for your own citizens. And you don't seem to get a country also has an economic function alongside the geopolitical one. If you don't want to help a region develop then you don't want that region in your country in the first place.
And even if you reduced Italy to "Padania" next you would have people complaining about "funneling" from Lombardia to Piemonte and so on. You would have to dissect countries into ever smaller region until you are felt with city states. I hear Croats complaining about "poorer" regions like Slavonia and Inner Dalmatia so this insanity just continues anyway.
Eventually it will lead to city states with only property owning adult males being allowed to vote
You don't understand how strong croat/albanian separatism was during yugoslavia. No seperatist movement in the west could compare during the time except for ireland. It wasn't a country but more of a union. There wasn't a yugoslav like there was a german, italian, brit. But an albanian, serb, croat, bosnian. These nationalities lived segregated from each other and the bad blood from the past never went away. It might have worked if the serbs were a larger majority like the english were to be able to dominate the region without contest. But the population was too diverse culturaly for it to work you need a strong majority to dictate the culture. Even without western intervention there is a high chance there would be a bunch of civil wars until one ethnic group would reign supreme in the region. The serbs were too easy on the albanians and croats. Just look at how the englis and the french treated their minorities to see how they could control dissent
Everyone except Serbia
In order of most wrong to least wrong:
The Byzantine empire for not mustering all their power and genociding the slavic invaders/settlers and/or pushing them back to the god forsaken marsh swamps where they come from.
Started too late. Plus the quality of people was too primitive to have it work sustainably.
Were is Putin on the map ?
NATO for intervening in that mess.
The serbs for being gifted and Empire TWICE and still managing to fuck it up
Croats for backing off Banja Luka in 95 in pressure of intrrnational community of fear of total war with Serbia.
They should have continued, and forced a final showdown by forcing Serbia/Yugoslavia to fully join the war, directly.
It would have been epic, and the war would have lasted til like 2003.
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