Which country is the heir to (east) Rome?


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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    FRANCE

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Turks are a continuation of the Eastern Roman empire and a return to form after centuries of greek decadence
    People point out the different religion but the empire had already switched religions in multiple ocassions, without dissapearing as an empire
    People can point at the "foreign conquest" But is that any different from the hundred civil wars done by generals of different ethnicities? Besides, the ottomans saw themselves as roman, why is that enough for the greeks but not them?

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Turkey
    The Ottomans called themselves romans too

    Either Roman empire dies with judeochristianity infecting it or it goes to whoever holds the capital
    capital is instanbul
    ergo turkey

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    None, obviously. Tsarist Russia was closest to the late eastern empire. Western republics are closest to the principate

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Western republics are closest to the principate
      How so? I don't remember Augustus being elected every 4 years

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    New York& New Jersey

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Serbia

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no country which is heir to Rome.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They called themselves roman
    The rûm sultanate literally means the "roman sultanate", Mehmet II literally called himself "Kayser-i Rûm" And viewed himself as the continuation of the roman empire

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Flase pretender
      Piss off

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >rûm sultanate literally means the "roman sultanate"
      Rum refers to the geographical area. It was not a claim to being the Roman Empire. Middle Easterners knew the Byzantine Empire, and the wider West as being called Rum. So Anatolia was to them, the geographical region known as Rum.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        No they didn't you fucking retard, any territory that was under Roman control was called Roman

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No they didn't you fucking retard
          To what? They got their name for Rum from the fact that the Byzantines called Anatolia, Thrace and Greece, Romania. Armenia and Bulgaria weren't considered as part of it by them. There was a real geographical area known to the Byzantines and Easterners as the Land of the Romans.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seeing how quickly the post was deleted, it's obvious that you're the pedo arab from iraq that LARPs as a turk

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Russian Republic Bad
      >Finnish Republic Good
      ?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yass! Bow to the Queen

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Screeching autism.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        *speaking truth

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Korea at high alert

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Prince Philip is great Grandson to Nicholas I therefore Charles III Prince of Wales is heir to Byzantium.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The one that speaks the same language and practices the same religion. Gee it's not very hard.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, the byzantine empire spoke latin and was pagan

      >No they didn't you fucking retard
      To what? They got their name for Rum from the fact that the Byzantines called Anatolia, Thrace and Greece, Romania. Armenia and Bulgaria weren't considered as part of it by them. There was a real geographical area known to the Byzantines and Easterners as the Land of the Romans.

      they called themselves Rhōmaîoi or romans, it was an ethnonym, not a geographical term, i've never seen any byzantine text calling any region "Romania", the Rûm sultanate was called as such due to ruling over the romans, as such, a roman sultanate

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They spoke Greek and didn't worship Zeus. You're only legitimizing Turks, dipshit

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >only legitimizing Turks
        based

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Turkey was a Christian nation, and the Ottomans a Christian empire, people would have no problem admitting the answer is obviously Turkey.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      this
      saying turkey isn't the roman successor is like saying the Tang or Qing aren't chinese
      modern day views on ethnicity do not apply to the roman or chinese empires, you had armenians, turks, greeks and latins all sharing an ethnicity, roman

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tang
        Poltard detected
        Also no, notions of ethnicity existed during the Qing. Queue.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      they'd still have different language/genetics/culture, turks belong to the east of anatolia. Greece has a more relevant claim

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they'd still have different language/genetics/culture
        Just like the Byzantine Greeks did compared to the Latin Romans who founded Rome to begin with.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Greece" is merely a neutered Byzantium that was mentally reconfigured by Westerners with a passion for all things classical, at the expense of the medieval.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neither. Heir of Rome is a pathetic larp.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kind of the ottomans but if we are going to be fair, we also have consider the spanish claim and the russian one too.

    Given that only 1 of those monarchies still exists. technically it's the kingdom of spain.
    Just checked and yes there is a direct connection between the kings of spain as of right now and the catholic kings, which originally got the claim.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Disclosure that of all the titles of the spanish crown, eastern roman emperor is not one of them.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >of all the titles of the spanish crown, eastern roman emperor is not one of them.
        they haven't claimed to it but one of the last Palaelogans sold his titles to the catholic king Fernando

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >East Rome
    I know this is going to get laughed at on LULZ but there is one very obvious answer (two actually if you also count Moldova)

    >speaks East Romance language
    >uses name derived from "Roman"
    >majority Eastern Orthodox
    >Byzantine culture ("Byzantium after Byzantium")
    >leaders were related to Byzantine emperors
    >part of the people actually lived in the former regions of the East Roman Empire and still do today as minorities in various Balkan states

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those Romanians, eve stole the Byzantine Empire.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Romania

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    No country can claim to be Rome's successor. The continuity of state succession was finally broken beyond dispute in 1453. Mehmed claimed to be the Roman Emperor, but it's like Charlemagne being crowned, a new title or rank claimed or asserted. The changes to the former Byzantine lands were not made from a throne won through war, but from the throne previously held that was moved to where the previous throne sat.

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