~~*They*~~ should've went for automotive-type of solution instead of trying to make everything talk to internet servers directly. You know like apartment or house having a CAN bus where your smart lighting and smart refrigerators connect to.
anon they're solving a nonexistent problem to begin with. You're saying "Well, they're doing something that didn't need to be done at all, and arguably shouldn't be done, but, they should have engineered a more elegant way to do it"
I see the whole thing as an upgrade to the 90s way of controlling devices via text messages. >be away from home >want to go to sauna when arriving home >send text message to the sauna stove >sauna gets heated
And yes, I do get that most people don't need these things. But just saying.
imagine having a cell phone in the 90s
americans I swear
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>americans I swear
Finland. Always thought burgers had nothing but "beepers" or whatever they were called and no cell coverage outside city centrals while actual mobile phones were here everywhere at that point.
From 1997-1998 onwards most school kids had mobile phones.
They are upping the bandwidth for their botnet/surveillance networks across the board with the internet of things. Just imagine: >backdoored lightbulbs >backdoored doorbells >backdoored washers (and dryers) >backdoored refrigerators >backdoored stoves >backdoored microwaves >backdoored TV's >backdoored automobiles >backdoored hot water tanks >backdoored thermostats and shower controls
The feds will never have to put exterminator uniforms on and put bugs in someone's house while they are af work ever again, because every home in America will already have 20+ surveillance points in it already. And once they start running the data of actions taken by bad actors prior to commuting a crime. Into the AI machine, they AI is going to start picking people out for thought crimes based on flags recorded prior to other instances and then fire up the automatic surveillance.
Privacy is over. We are literally going to be Orwellian slaves if not in this life time our children and their children will be
doorbells
refrigerators
TV's
automobiles
thermostats and shower controls
these all not only exist but are in common use
in addition to literal listening devices whats job it is to listen to every word anyone in your house ever says
people pay 100s of dollars for this device
Hopefully never because I write firmware for a lot of IoT devices. I will never own one though, fuck that. I don't want anything "smart" besides my laptop.
Christ. Did any of us see this coming circa ~2012? Every fucking level of computation from enterprise to end user, every piece of fucking software and hardware from ring-0 outwards just comes fucked right out of the gate now. There is no escaping it
>there is no escaping it
Don't turn on electronics
And to think anytime the screenshot of that intel whistle blower on /misc/ around 2017 was posted. everyone laughed it off as nonsense, and here we are now. Its just common knowledge that every intel chipset is backdoored.
~~*They*~~ should've went for automotive-type of solution instead of trying to make everything talk to internet servers directly. You know like apartment or house having a CAN bus where your smart lighting and smart refrigerators connect to.
anon they're solving a nonexistent problem to begin with. You're saying "Well, they're doing something that didn't need to be done at all, and arguably shouldn't be done, but, they should have engineered a more elegant way to do it"
I see the whole thing as an upgrade to the 90s way of controlling devices via text messages.
>be away from home
>want to go to sauna when arriving home
>send text message to the sauna stove
>sauna gets heated
And yes, I do get that most people don't need these things. But just saying.
>having remote controlled sauna in the 90s
holy bourgeoisie
>bourgeoisie
Said GSM module costed peanuts.
>remote controlled sauna
IIRC it wasn't. It was a generic GSM modem + relay for controlling anything.
imagine having a cell phone in the 90s
americans I swear
>americans I swear
Finland. Always thought burgers had nothing but "beepers" or whatever they were called and no cell coverage outside city centrals while actual mobile phones were here everywhere at that point.
From 1997-1998 onwards most school kids had mobile phones.
we were trying not to starve in the 90s
Its not a problem, its a convenience. And people will pay to make shit easier.
>Unplug lightbulb
>Refrigerator stops working
I'll pass.
Huh? CAN devices literally just tap into the twisted pair.
> unplug a porch light
> send some semi-carefully generated garbage
> front door opens
> roombas drive out
> carrying all the valuables
Iot fad passed already. I don't hear anyone advertising any iot devices anymore. It's over.
Cause the buzzword moved onto AI
IoT is still around and even more prevalent than ever
When it's too late.
>Literally rolling out the $4 WiFi/bt app enabled light bulbs right now
>anons tech summary
>never gonna happen
Yeah. No.
They are upping the bandwidth for their botnet/surveillance networks across the board with the internet of things. Just imagine:
>backdoored lightbulbs
>backdoored doorbells
>backdoored washers (and dryers)
>backdoored refrigerators
>backdoored stoves
>backdoored microwaves
>backdoored TV's
>backdoored automobiles
>backdoored hot water tanks
>backdoored thermostats and shower controls
The feds will never have to put exterminator uniforms on and put bugs in someone's house while they are af work ever again, because every home in America will already have 20+ surveillance points in it already. And once they start running the data of actions taken by bad actors prior to commuting a crime. Into the AI machine, they AI is going to start picking people out for thought crimes based on flags recorded prior to other instances and then fire up the automatic surveillance.
Privacy is over. We are literally going to be Orwellian slaves if not in this life time our children and their children will be
doorbells
refrigerators
TV's
automobiles
thermostats and shower controls
these all not only exist but are in common use
in addition to literal listening devices whats job it is to listen to every word anyone in your house ever says
people pay 100s of dollars for this device
Hopefully never because I write firmware for a lot of IoT devices. I will never own one though, fuck that. I don't want anything "smart" besides my laptop.
And how compromised is that firmware? Be honest now anon...
We use chink chips at work a lot of the time so they're pozzed from the outset.
meant for
Christ. Did any of us see this coming circa ~2012? Every fucking level of computation from enterprise to end user, every piece of fucking software and hardware from ring-0 outwards just comes fucked right out of the gate now. There is no escaping it
Your processor has had a ring -3 rootkit in it since 2007. It's not Chang's glowies you need to worry about.
And to think anytime the screenshot of that intel whistle blower on /misc/ around 2017 was posted. everyone laughed it off as nonsense, and here we are now. Its just common knowledge that every intel chipset is backdoored.
>there is no escaping it
Don't turn on electronics
exactly when they realize the jab they took is a mean of depopulation i.e. never