When did western culture start to decline? French Revolution? WW1? WW2? 9/11?

When did western culture start to decline? French Revolution? WW1? WW2? 9/11?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    American culture is rotten and obsessed with secularism and materialism, it was exported to other western countries and here is the final result

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >He's think it's the Americans who are secular
      Uh huh.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    abrahamism

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    French Revolution. Although, you can also say the Revolutions of 1848 which demonstrated the lasting influence of the French Revolution across the continent.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It literally peaked AFTER the French Revolution

      https://i.imgur.com/pam5zWd.png

      When did western culture start to decline? French Revolution? WW1? WW2? 9/11?

      WW1 but hitler's sperg out was the final nail to the coffin

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      WW1 honestly.

      I suppose the apex is also the point where decline starts.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    first define decline

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The peak was in the late 13th and early 14th centuries, then it's all downhill from there.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How is Latin America not western? They speak a European language and follow a European religion. Even their institutions are built off of old Spanish ones.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It totally is, but what you say can totally apply to Africa among other states as well.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's not white and do not behave like europeans, any basic map shows it. It's a pattern

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because admitting that they are western would mean that the west is not superior, as we would have a lot of western countries that are corrupt hellholes.

      Interesting how in this map Argentina is western while countries with similar level of european ancestry are considered latin american

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I've said this before and it triggers a lot of people, but in regards to things like societal attitudes towards the role of government, concept of liberty, and economic justice, a country like BRAZIL is genuinely more "European" in mindset than the United States is.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Very stupid map

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Protestant reformation

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Idk but 2000 was peak (more recent) western culture, materially speaking. Then 9/11 came along and kickstarted the great era of deception and lies, the 21st century. Only downhill from there.

    Maybe you could also say WW1 if you compare pre- and post war (european) art. WW1 really put a dent in the collective spirit/psyche of the west. I was truly over after WW2 even, though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn't 9/11 that did it in, it was the invasion of iraq. It's when america sold its foreign reputation for a quick buck for those at the top. That's when they started the lies.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Greece is western mate

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >1688 for England
    >1865 for America
    >1895 for the political Union of America
    >1918 for Germany
    >1920 for Russiya
    >1945 for France

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nonsensical

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        actually i am correct.

        USSR was the height of Russian history though.

        USSR was a decline from the Revolutionary period which was the apex of the Russian soul, the USSR was israelite.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >USSR was israelite
          What does this mean? I guess you're sort of right though that the revolution was an apex of historical developement and the triumphs of the Soviet Union were essentially feeding off the life force of the revolution.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      USSR was the height of Russian history though.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        From a historical perspective, Western culture going into decline is nothing new or alarming. It is constantly disintegrating, but it seems that through this, it manages to reestablish itself. Each time it tries to rebuild itself, it fails. But it also fails better each time.

        I have a feeling that the Cold War was, in a way, a great balancing act that drove humanity forward. This tug o' war between the communist bloc and a capitalist bloc was a time of great scientific discovery, and overall progress. Hell, a lot of current tech was basically developed in 1970-1980s and swept under the rug during the fall of the USSR, only to be unearthed in, what, the 2010s. The 1990s however were a time of a great economical and cultural collapse for post-USSR countries. The economics part is understandable and simple: a huge race to privatize former state property led to violence, a fragile interconnected system of former republics stopped functioning seemingly overnight. But the cultural one -- oh man. The period is described as "the country was sold for jeans and bubble gum," and that, while dramatic, is close to truth.

        After all, it's hard to believe that current events hold some sort of a higher cause, and the vague and unspecific language used by government officials in Russia, Europe and United States only reinforce that feeling. It's a gamble, and the bets are on whoever gets out with profit or not. There's nothing moral about that, just business.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Japonic-Korean
    What?

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Since its inception, since history is just a Long Defeat where things get continually worse right from the start. But the more important answer is with the printing press and Renaissance humanism.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Chile and Uruguay not western
    >Philippines and Vietnam bunched up with Indo-cultural asia and not Chinese-cultural Asia.
    >Greece is not culturally western
    >Morocco is arabic
    >Map cherrypicks sub-cultural prockets yet make nations like India or Turkey into a single unity culture.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Shit map, its arbitrary and the author obviously doesn't know a thing about half of the reasons.

      also
      >Caribbean culture group
      This one literally only exists because the author had no idea what to do with the meme nations of the non-hispanic caribbean.
      I really don't know what common factors haiti and guyana or suriname would have to tie them into a coherent culture sphere. Given that one speaks french creole, is catholic afro-syncretic mix meanwhile guyana is majority hindu and suriname is like plurality javaenese.

      It's trash, yeah, but somehow it's still better than Huntington's.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The fall of the Roman Republic.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The West has been more powerful than the East ever since the 18th Century. The few powers in the East only did so after aping the West
    > Japan after the Meiji Restoration
    > China after Deng's reforms
    > the Soviet Union after importing Western made machinery and stealing tech by espionage
    > Dubai since the 90s
    > Turkey since Ataturk
    When the elite ruling the West are incompetent, a revolt of sort shakes things up and hands power to younger and more aggressive types.
    > on the other hand
    When the elite of the East lose their virtues, the masses remain subservient until some cult convinces them to go back to the austere old ways of doing things, ensuring that they never really catch up to the West
    > except on the rare occasion they ape the West

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      your ai images aren't historically accurate

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The entirety of Western Civilization was built off of a few foreign conquerers using Europeans as serfs while aping Eastern inventions and technology. It goes both ways.

      Also, posting some gay larp picture doesn't make your point more valid, it just seems like you're deeply insecure about your identity as a westerner and the rapid decline of the west in recent years

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What are you talking about? Western culture is at its most powerful it has ever been. It has truly spread globally.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Caribbean culture best culture, fight me, wait... you already lost.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >When did western culture start to decline?
    Why do you say that when people are still aping it in 2023?

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Argentina
    >Western instead of Latino
    Well now we know who made this map/

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Shit map, its arbitrary and the author obviously doesn't know a thing about half of the reasons.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      also
      >Caribbean culture group
      This one literally only exists because the author had no idea what to do with the meme nations of the non-hispanic caribbean.
      I really don't know what common factors haiti and guyana or suriname would have to tie them into a coherent culture sphere. Given that one speaks french creole, is catholic afro-syncretic mix meanwhile guyana is majority hindu and suriname is like plurality javaenese.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Combine those 3 clowns with the mostly coherent british caribbean which is just el Black abominaciones until the end of time.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >el Black abominaciones
          They have a lot of Indians in them alongside a sizable biracial populations and some Asians.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I really don't know what common factors haiti and guyana or suriname would have to tie them into a coherent culture sphere. Given that one speaks french creole, is catholic afro-syncretic mix meanwhile guyana is majority hindu and suriname is like plurality javaenese.
            madison grants quote about New York but it's about the anglo caribbean.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Ok guyana is plurality indian but still.

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