When did the atheist movement begin, and how long before its dead and buried?

When did the atheist movement begin, and how long before it’s dead and buried?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's already the world's dominant religion.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How can a lack of a religion be the dominant religion?
      That's like saying the dominant sexual position is masturbation.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Census records, self reporting

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >When did the atheist movement begin
    When the first thing that you would call a human was born about 200,000 years ago.
    >how long before it’s dead and buried?
    Link related

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol no your religion began in the 17th century when people started to decide to pretend God isn't real because they thought it would prevent more wars of religion

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Not outside of commie shitholes.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the time chirstcucks stop worshipping a israelite raised by a cuck

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's always been there but if guess it grew during the 1800s. It will probably never end, the cat's out of the bag so to speak. Which is interesting how much it grew since atheist don't reproduce as much and don't actively proselytize, outside of some minor movements. If there is ever a major proselytization atheist movement that would be interesting and what effect it would have.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It is currently underway.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No its not, closest i seen to atheist proselytization is the street epistemology people who are very small when compared some thng like street preachers.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You are in 1 example.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Engaging in a religious debate on an anonymous image board started by a Christian is not proselytizing, you disingenuous israelite

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How is not believing in something a "movement"?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If you belong to a cult you have to frame not being in the cult as following some other cult. If you correctly frame not being in the cult as “I’m just not in the cult” it inherently makes the people in the cult realize they’re brainwashed.
      They cannot see it as is

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >She Felt Hands Pulling Her Down Into Hell | How to ESCAPE Hell
      lol that random clickbait capitalization really adds to the gravity of the whole situation.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Pic related is a thing that happens in the real world with the backing of the state, so since we've reached late stage atheism and it's starting to destroy itself I wouldn't give it a century

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I literally just drove past a church with a pride flag. China doesn’t have what you’re complaining about.
      I swear to god you people are not capable of doing the most basic parsing if variables to determine causation.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I literally just drove past a church with a pride flag
        And in ancient Israel there were priests of Baal, what's your point?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Religious people are NPCs. The npc meme really is just the old division of the hordes of mindless drones against the ruling thinking caste. Religious people obviously are NPCs, as you can see from their very low level thinking.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          /thread
          Don't care if that wasn't a sincere post, it's true.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Your religion will implode as you start to mindlessly reorient yourself from worshipping god to centering your entire practice around hating trans people.
      The fact that you've been completely mindbroken by men dressing as women will only hasten your religion's demise.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >with the backing of the state
      Reminder that Christ's birth and Good Friday are federal holidays.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You realize that nowadays we have a plethora of genderqueer priests who support this shit, too?
      The pope is a literal commie who considers the refugee crisis an 'Arab invasion of Europe' and a 'good thing' in the same sentence.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Jeremiah don't you know there are Israelites who worship Baal?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >real Christianity has never been tried
          Why does YHWH allow his official institution on Earth to be corrupted by Satan?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >why YHWH real if Israelite worship Baal?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            YHWH literally is Baal though. You're worshipping a random deity from the Canaanite pantheon that got uplifted to monotheistic status as a quirk of history.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            YHWH is not Baal. YHWH was a local storm/war god from the highlands in what is now modern-day Jordan that got merged with El sometime around the 7th century BCE.

            So does God

            >“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.” - Douglas Adams

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >can't answer

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          cope.90% of Christians are just as pozzed sometimes even more pozzed than Atheists. The head of the catholic church and many protestant churches are some uber pozzed commies. That has nothing to do with the spread of Atheism.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    american threads are the worst

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >When did the atheist movement begin
    Probably the French revolution. There were things analogous to atheism before that but if I had to pin down a point where atheism really became a "thing," it would be then.
    >and how long before it’s dead and buried?
    I don't see it going away any time soon, unfortunately. In order to get rid of atheism we'd have to get rid of the last 300 years of western philosophy. Not that I'd necessarily be opposed to that, but it's a pretty unrealistic proposition.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't see it going away any time soon
      I'm sure it seemed to those dozen or so men the Lord commanded to go conquer the world like Rome would never go away, and I'm sure those guys who bore the scars of the worst persecution Rome ever did got whiplash when the new Caesar asked them to be his religious advisors. It always seems hopeless, but Christianization is always right around the corner because God is the one who grants it

      Atheism held out which is besides the main point that having a hard life doesn’t make a god real, that’s your coping mechanism.
      Obviously.

      God is real

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You have no proof that the Christian god is real. The Bible is full of fiction, falsehoods and fantasy from start to finish.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >You have no proof that the Christian god is real
          Look out a window

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, farmers regularly on a daily basis interact directly with their cattle...

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So does God

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >when pressured god shows himself through phenomena that don't need a metaphysical explanation and occur automatically every day
            Woah! Great theology, larper

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You evolved to find lush river valleys to be attractive because they have more food and freshwater than anywhere else.

            Even the simplest animals are attracted to bright lights.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Case in point. Flies fly directly into closed windows because of the light. Let the christian gays pretend light and nature is proof of higher existence.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            He didn’t even touch it because as soon as he read it he realized it makes perfect sense but he never had the curiosity of brainpower to connect the dots

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nah m8 the analogy would work is cows thanked the farmer for making the grass regrow every morning and not the fact that the farmer, literally, tangibly, in plain sight, tows a hay bail in the center of the pasture for the cows to eat. Your god doesn't exist. Where is he?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >if God real why I can't see Him?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, actually. Answer this.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you can, look in the mirror

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I see a world where the Christian worldview is an inferior model to explain what I’m looking at.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Really? Why does the sun come up in the morning?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Because the Earth spins, hope this helps. Homeschooling is a tragedy.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Because the Earth spins
            What basis does your worldview give you for believing this will continue to happen 5 seconds from now?
            >Homeschooling is a tragedy
            Atheism: an idea so good you have to steal other people's children and brainwash them into believing it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >What basis does your worldview give you for believing this will continue to happen 5 seconds from now?
            Basic physics.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I'm asking you how you solve the problem of induction. You're so intellectual and educated

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Hey it might stop spinning in 5 seconds, doubt it though.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Hey it might stop spinning in 5 seconds
            So your worldview gives you no basis for believing the sun will rise tomorrow, it doesn't give you any natural laws, and it doesn't allow you to do any science because all scientific research whatsoever is stripped of predictive capacity and reduced to mere history
            >doubt it
            Why?

            The problem of induction is a problem of epistemology, incel. A problem of epistemology cannot summon up your desired answer to an ontological question no matter how hard you try to twist your tortured little brain.

            It shows that the atheist worldview is irrational and the atheist is dependent on his knowledge that God exists in order to live in the world that God made.

            Yes, actually. Answer this.

            Because God is not made of matter and your eyes were designed to perceive matter.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not asking to literally see the face of God. Why doesn't he directly interact with humanity as he did in The Bible?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            What do you mean by "directly"?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Let's take the burning bush for example. Or angels coming to earth as emissaries.
            Stop trying to deconstruct my criticism and weasel out of an explanation for his absence.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, you know what he means. Stop deflecting you sniveling coward. Why are Jesus’s followers so shifty and weak?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >So your worldview gives you no basis for believing the sun will rise tomorrow
            No it does. The earth is spinning and has a huge amount of momentum without any object close to stopping the spin. There’s always the possibility something insane could happen but it’s not likely.
            So where is the proof that your god is real again?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The earth is spinning and has a huge amount of momentum without any object close to stopping the spin
            This all takes for granted the laws of physics could never change, what is your basis for believing the laws of physics will not all change 5 seconds from now?
            >There’s always the possibility something insane could happen but it’s not likely
            So there is no physical law compelling the earth to spin it just happens to be that way? Then you have forfeited any right to speak of probabilities. If you're saying that physical law could just change in 5 seconds but it's not likely, how did you determine this probability? Was it based on wish fulfillment?

            Let's take the burning bush for example. Or angels coming to earth as emissaries.
            Stop trying to deconstruct my criticism and weasel out of an explanation for his absence.

            Hebrews 1:1-2 "God, having spoken long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days spoke to us in His Son"

            >n-no I literally can't live unless I know everything!
            Nobody gives a frick about the problem of induction, incel. Not even Hume saw it as a genuine problem, it's more of a curiosity for philosophers to pore over.
            It has about the same relevance to the life of actual (read: non-autistic or at least, unlike you, high functioning autistic) people as the fact that we genuinely can't be sure that a meteor won't kill us when we walk outside.
            This weird apologetic genuinely only works on you because you're not neurotypical and you get stunlocked by things that don't fit the patterns you'd like them to fit.

            >unless I know everything!
            You can't know anything without my God.
            >Not even Hume saw it as a genuine problem, it's more of a curiosity for philosophers to pore over.
            On the other hand the problem actually severely undermines the validity of science and inductive logic in general, as Bertrand Russel noted, "unless there is a solution to the problem there is no intellectual distinction between sanity and insanity"
            This excuse making seems to just be giving medicine to a dead man. That is you're saying "I'm not going to reason about that because I don't have an answer and that's just uncomfortable". That's not rational, and that doesn't give you a basis for proceeding on that belief.

            How do you know the Bible is real if your senses are not real?

            I know my senses are real because of the immediate revelation of God who causes me to know He is real and I am His creature, which penetrates and destroys the barrier between the phenomenal and noumenal and allows me to escape the prison of my mind so that I have a basis for believing that my senses detect an external world and that laws of logic represent a reality external to my thinking.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >So there is no physical law compelling the earth to spin it just happens to be that way?
            There’s nothing stopping it from continued spinning. This is the level of sophistry you’re at? If you need to stoop this low to defend something then maybe you’re wrong anon.
            When you get to “how do you know the sun will rise tomorrow” when asked to prove something, you’ve lost the plot.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            If the laws of physics all changed it would be absurd to suppose that physical objects would continue to behave in the same way
            >When you get to “how do you know the sun will rise tomorrow” when asked to prove something, you’ve lost the plot.
            Transcendental arguments are a form of proof.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >If the laws of physics all changed it would be absurd to suppose that physical objects would continue to behave in the same way
            And if that happens we can act accordingly or more likely disintegrate lol. Anyway what’s your proof for the Christian god? None?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >tl;dr god is real because my feelings
            Christians are a lot like trannies...

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >”elves and fairies are real bro I swear”
            >okay…do you have proof of this?
            >”..how do you even know the sun will rise tomorrow maaaan”

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            For how long have you been stunlocked here, presuppcuck? How many days have you spent repeating the exact same script over and over to anonymous people on the internet? How do you cope with having no social life? Is that why you need an imaginary friend?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You can't know anything without my God.
            Actually my god provides all that I need to know everything. And you will never be able to refute this, demonic Yahwist.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >revelation
            Which is "revealed" to you through your senses

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No, it was revealed through the implantation of the knowledge of God in my soul at the moment of my creation. This knowledge is innate, and not perceptional.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >b-but the pastor told me my feefees are real and anamnetic!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Take your frickin meds

            No reasoning to be found in these posts

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I know because I know because I know

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Plenty of reason in the previous post for you to take your frickin meds

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not an argument. Your pastor fed you a 20th century exegesis that involves an anamnetic epistemology that didn't appear for millennia of Judaism plus two more millennia of Christianity. Everyone was apparently wrong until your shitty amerishart theologian made up the things that you're now repeating. And this is what you're basing your entire life around.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You're right, you didn't make an argument. Cope harder

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Take your frickin meds

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >n-no I literally can't live unless I know everything!
            Nobody gives a frick about the problem of induction, incel. Not even Hume saw it as a genuine problem, it's more of a curiosity for philosophers to pore over.
            It has about the same relevance to the life of actual (read: non-autistic or at least, unlike you, high functioning autistic) people as the fact that we genuinely can't be sure that a meteor won't kill us when we walk outside.
            This weird apologetic genuinely only works on you because you're not neurotypical and you get stunlocked by things that don't fit the patterns you'd like them to fit.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            How do you know the Bible is real if your senses are not real?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The problem of induction is a problem of epistemology, incel. A problem of epistemology cannot summon up your desired answer to an ontological question no matter how hard you try to twist your tortured little brain.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            induction isn’t basic physics, gays who keep saying this shit deserve to be put down

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >veins popping in his forehead because no one cares about his “how do you know the sun will rise tomorrow” sophistry
            Lmao virgin

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I’m Muslim and just wanted to point out that induction isn’t basic physics

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >What basis does your worldview give you for believing this will continue to happen 5 seconds from now?
            This question is a bigger problem for christians, lol

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >christian fundamentalist education

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Farmers interact with cows on a daily basis.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            wrong. over here on Oyish we only eat ethically sourced meat, where the cow has had a wonderful life, left to roam free on pasture and eat lots of grass (before it's impending doom that is).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The "movement" i guess yeah, but atheist were always there.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Meslier

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism only works when there's no wars, famine, pestilence and hardship. Fedora boys love to feel superior to religious folk, but it's not something that withstands any real test. Look at Dawkins; he's rich, pampered, never worked a day in his life, and he's come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist from the standpoint of someone who hasn't suffered a day in his life.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Held out pretty well for the Soviets during the absolute hell of the first half of the 20th century. It survived through 9 out of 10 men born in 1921 being killed in the war.

      Besides the point really. People with harder lives than you don’t believe in any gods, and having a hard time doesn’t make any god real. I mean really insane that needs to be spelled out.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >needs to be spelled out
        it really doesn't. everybody acting as a christard on this board is a troll pretending to be moronic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >anybody with faith must be pretending
          I pity you.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            as I said
            >"on this board"
            either your reading comprehension is thoroughly inner-city-american, or you just enjoy appearing to be an idiot.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I watched you homosexuals convert through waifu crusader memes because of feminism in videogames. There's nothing genuine about Oyish christianity, it's just mindrot from habitual contrarianism.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Soviets
        Yeah that's a good point, there's a society that will never die

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Atheism held out which is besides the main point that having a hard life doesn’t make a god real, that’s your coping mechanism.
          Obviously.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The Soviet Union is a good example of a godless country
        yfw

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >christians literally admit religion is nothing but a coping mechanism

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone has one. For some people it's drugs, for others it's giving up and taking sex hormones. Everyone has one.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Some people are happy and don't need to cope or rope.
          Hard for you to imagine, I know.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Sure butvit doesn't exactly look good for your "faith" if your objective reality about life, death, and the universe is merely, admittedly, a placebo effect. It's almost like this is a LARP...

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >and how long before it’s dead and buried?
    I think Atheism is the third most popular belief among religion right now, but projections show that as early as 2025 it will drop down to the fourth most popular belief and continue to dwindle in numbers as both Christianity and Islam grow in numbers.

    The likely cause of Atheism's death is in the fertility rate of Atheists (the lowest among virtually any belief system) and also the advanced ages of Atheists (for some reason Atheists trend older than younger these days).

    I would also wager that if China ever collapses that we will see a huge BOOM in religion in China. Right now China is State-Atheist and the government brutally oppresses any religious belief in favor of state-worship. If the government fails, then you can expect Christians and Muslims to feast on the rotting corpse of Communism. China could become as religious as South Korea has became (South Korea is almost 1/3rds Christian).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >religion is a genetic trait
      >you're le atheist because you hate your mom
      Pick one

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >brutally oppresses any religious belief in favor of state-worshi
      That's a reddit notion. There's no problem with being a Muslim Uyghur as long as you don't blow people up, unless of course you consider blowing people up as a basic tenet of Islam.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Most people are spiritually atheist. Hardly 1% of people are actually religious. Them belonging to these religions is more about political identity than spiritual identity.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This has been debunked. Most Atheists aren't even Atheists, they're Agnostics that are unsure of what to believe or spiritual people who believe in a God but do not identify with religion. "True Atheists" are an extreme minority.

        Even in the Czech Republic, considered "The Most Atheistic Country" there's actually a majority of people (even a majority of nonbelivers) that believe in at least one supernatural concept.

        When you actually examine the figure known as "Atheists, Agnostics, and Non-Believers" you find that the vast bulk of that figure actually hold some supernatural or spiritual views about life, existence, or an afterlife. Only a very fringe minority are total undisputed Atheists.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So I'm actually Czech and it's hilarious what conclusions you're drawing from this.
          Feel free to ask me any questions about why you're wrong.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You aren't saying I'm wrong. You're saying Pew Research is wrong. And that's fine if you want to try to go up against the most credible worldwide pollsters on religion, but I don't like your chances, anon.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            i love pew research

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Atheism will take over the wo-ACK!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            islam will win

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >christians bragging about the third world
            VGH THE GLORY OV IMPERIAL CHRISTENDOM

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Atheists bragging about the third world
            VGH THE GLORY OF DICKY DOOKINS SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH! HAIL MAO ZEDONG! HAIL GEORGE FLOYD!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            There isn't a international alliance of Atheism™. I literally do not care about China. Now stop seething and embrace your brothers in Christ.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            imagine being such cucks worshipping a palestinian man. embarrassing. i couldn't dare buy another man's picture and hang the face OF ANOTHER MAN in my own house. let alone worshiping him. the level of cuckoldry is astonishing.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >There isn't a international alliance of Atheism
            There is, it's called Communism.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            And yet I am not a communist. It's truly liberating not living with autism and capable of nuanced opinions.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not all Atheists are Communists, but the bulk of them are. Not all believers have a religion, but the bulk of them do.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nope. The majority of atheists are anti-collectivist.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Nope. The majority of atheists are anti-collectivist.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Please show a source for Western atheists having an affiliation for communist china by virtue of being a godless society

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >"the majority are anti-collectivist"
            >source?
            >"prove they aren't"
            Atheists, it turns out, also don't believe in the burden of proof.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not him and don't care. You started the argument that atheists are Chinese communists.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Communism is the only collective body and accounts for less than half of the atheists in the world. How are commies the majority?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This has been debunked.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That's last census and incomplete. Try again.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I have literally never met a single communist in my life and lots of atheists. I'm begging you, go outside and stop living through /misc/ graphs.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Is this the fabled christian intellect?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            1 Billion social credit score has just been deposited into your account.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No, I'm telling you that you're interpreting the results wrong you absolute moron. If you want to know what those stats mean in practice, feel free to ask me. If you'd rather believe in bullshit, go on (you're quite proficient in that).
            Zasranej pánbíčkáři.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I once listened to a Lithuanian man tell me that the high suicide rates in Lithuania were wrong because "it's our culture". How are you going to tell me that Pew Research is wrong? Do you dispute their stated conclusion, that 52% of the unaffiliated believe in at least one supernatural concept? I'm asking you. Tell me.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I'm going to tell you that you're a moron who can't read. Belief in a soul is dominating all the other things (still under 50% though). You know why? Because many people here don't even associate the soul with anything supernatural anymore. They'll take "what the brain is doing" and consider it a soul - and "soul" in this context doesn't mean immortal.
            Next up you've got fate, or in the words of the article, that the course of one's life is partially or wholly preordained. You know what this includes? Materialistic determinism, you glorious moron.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You're wrong because I'm claiming Pew Research falsely labeled things supernatural that actually aren't supernatural
            Sure, buddy.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >trust the polls goy, surely incorrectly posed questions would never lead to misleading results
            This happens all the time when foreign bodies do polling here btw, regardless of topic.
            And the funniest part is that even if you weren't wrong (which you are), your claim would imply that roughly 30% of Czech atheists hold some vaguely supernatural belief. That does absolutely nothing to prove your stupid opinions about religion being necessary and everpresent.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >religion being necessary and everpresent
            Never did I claim this. I'm claiming that Atheism is on the decline and that the figures given for worldwide Atheists are actually misleading because not all in the category of "unaffiliated" are actually hard atheists, and of that figure even less are actually Atheists according to a disbelief in God. Pew Research also proved that most Atheists did not become Atheists through reason, but through a dislike of the church and for a political preference. Only 37% of unaffiliated actually site the reason "I don't believe in God" as their reason for being unaffiliated.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I love that you’re laser focused on gnostic atheists while the vast majority of secular people are not that. I mean truly shining autism on your end.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I love that you’re laser focused on gnostic atheists while the vast majority of secular people are not that. I mean truly shining autism on your end.
            This comment chain started because some idiot claimed "most people are atheist" "barely 1% of people are religious" so naturally pointing to hard atheists being a minority was an easy way to debunk that braindead claim. Agnostic Atheists exist, but by definition of being Agnostic they make at least a little tiny miniscule space of room for the potential that God might be real--thus they fit into my thesis, that most nonbelievers actually either harbor some spiritual beliefs or make room for the chance of a God and aren't totally sure of Atheism.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t care anon I love watching you guys pour all your time and effort into trying to debunk the smallest fraction of secular people. Keep with it by all means

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You picked a moronic example because you're very stupid. Atheism in the Czech Rep is still going up.
            Also
            >ameritards
            >didn't use their brain when making decisions
            Is that supposed to prove something?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Pew Research also proved that most Atheists did not become Atheists through reason, but through a dislike of the church and for a political preference. Only 37% of unaffiliated actually site the reason "I don't believe in God" as their reason for being unaffiliated.
            Lmao you genuinely can't read. Your graph says that 89% of atheists give "I don't believe in god" as a reason why they're unaffiliated. The number only drops down to 37% when you lump atheists in with agnostics and people who "believe nothing in particular".
            I knew you had to be pants on head moronic to say the things you say, but this goes on to conclusively prove that your beliefs are influenced by the fact that you're functionally illiterate.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            this doesn't change the fact that magnus carlsen is better than kasparov

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Are you watching Tata? Magnus is getting anally destroyed. His career is over.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            dw he'll recover as he always does. nothing the reigning five-time World Chess Champion, four-time World Rapid Chess Champion, and six-time World Blitz Chess Champion can't handle.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I'm joking, and he did just beat Rapport.
            Nodirbek is smashing though. Coming for Alireza's bucci.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The number only drops down to 37% when you lump atheists in with agnostics and people who "believe nothing in particular".
            Exactly. That's the point. Atheists are a tiny minority among the group known as the "unaffiliated" which includes Atheists, Agnostics, and Non-Believers. Sometimes I write "Atheists" when I mean "Atheists, Agnostics, and Non-Believers", but that's what I'm arguing, that the figure for the worldwide unaffiliated is misleading because "Atheists" the ones that confidently don't believe in God, are an extreme minority. That's my point, anon.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Then don't write shit like "most atheists did not become atheists through reason" as if you've got a point about the intellectual honesty of actual atheism, moron.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            As long as you agree that you're a fringe minority belief and that the vast majority of people in the group unaffiliated do not believe as you do, then I agree not to conflate you anymore. Sorry Dawkins-kun

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Well, that's the vast majority in your moron country where 4/10 people truly and honestly believe in shit like the Noah story.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No, Atheists are not the vast majority of the unaffiliated group in the West. Only around 2% of the USA is Atheist and 10% Agnostic. One interesting figure is that in the US, the "none group" (meaning the group commonly referred to as "Unaffiliated" or "Non-Believers" which includes the minority of Atheists and Agnostics) is actually 51% either Deist or Theist.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit you really can't read. Read my comment again, fricktard. I'm saying that the vast majority of the unaffiliated group isn't atheist in your moron country.
            All of this could've been prevented had you been taught to read properly as a child.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Well, that's the vast majority in your moron country
            Don't blame me for misunderstanding what you mean when you use demonstrative pronouns like "that" which could mean "Atheists" or "Non-Atheists". Maybe you should have paid attention in English class.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >atheistic people aren't entirely dogmatic and are open to the possibilities of something beyond human understanding
            >so they aren't atheists
            Atheism is the lack of belief in God, not the lack of belief in magic or a soul

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Atheism is the lack of belief in God, not the lack of belief in magic or a soul
            That's true, and that's why Atheism is so prevalent in the East, where it replaced folk religions like Taoists and Shintoists. However, most Western Atheists (and most of Reddit and Oyish atheists) will tell you that you're equally deluded for believing in the supernatural as you are believing in God. Because the caliber of people that come to debate about Atheism are almost always "hard atheists" while they actually represent a minority of atheists worldwide.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            If I was asked if I believe in souls on a survey I would say yes because it was always people describing the electrical activity of their nervous system and it’s unique characteristics, they just used to falsely believe it is god magic. Some people use it interchangeably with personality character or charisma.
            I’m not surprised the only subject that is actually ambiguous there is the most believed.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That’s not a religion and that’s not Christianity and that’s not theism either, the absolute highest Czech numbers for anything that might be considered supernatural depending on the definition is the soul at 44%

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Read the left-side. Pew Research concluded that 52% of all the "unaffiliated" in the Czech Republic believed in at least one of those supernatural concepts.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That’s not theism or religion.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It grew because religion is often taught in a moronic way and religous figures don't act properly .

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >he doesn't understand conversational anaphoric references
    >he doesn't understand even basic context
    Low IQ. It's apparent you're a victim of homeschooling.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What are you actively learning in high school that a home school student could not?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >he's admitting it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Homeschooled kids outperform public and private schooled kids.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah because Amerishart public schools are garbage too. Over 50% of adult burgerbrains have a reading comprehension below 6th grade level, lol.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            > he admitted it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            What's your issue? I don't disagree with the averages, it's just that the homeschooling system is better at occasionally producing genuine mongs like you despite leading to better outcomes on average.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Cope harder loser.

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