Whats wrong with imperialism?

What’s wrong with imperialism?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When it collapses it gets chaotic. Super slow in reforms.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Also the balancing act of "dominance" and "economic growth" bring super hard to do because the subjects gaining economic clout sooner or later leads to calls for more self sufficiency or independence. Either from them or settlers demanding it because they feel "restricted" by the very empire that handed them everything on a silver platter and said settlers wanting "more".

      Colonial admins had to deal with a lot of bullshit from settlers that they on one hand were beholden to, but on the other also had to control and curtail.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        For example one Italian admin in Italian Eritrea had to deal with soldiers killing each other over feuds.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      True

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't people colour in that gray patch with the Italian flag like they should?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Mostly because there remains little to no Italian influence in Ethiopia. Even if they were temporarily conquered, it's maintained most of its culture and the attempts to 'Italize' it mostly failed or were minor.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/gRMdzoX.jpg

      What’s wrong with imperialism?

      Because it was made by an ethiopian

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Its a pre-WW1 map, hence why Germany's colonies are shown

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    nothing. It's inevitable, might makes right.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >might makes right.
      Might can't solve everything. Even many imperial powers know that. That's the reason why the Fashoda incident didn't blow up into another Euro war.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    African imperialism specifically was moronic. Every government maintained their colonies at a loss, and in the end it seems that in spite of all of the rationalizations it was carried out just because the European aristocracies wanted something to do. The irrational justifications are all broken down in the book by J. A. Hobson.

    Now however two hundred years later large amounts extremely poor individuals now know the language of the mother country and seek to get in, so congratulations on accomplishing that.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There are more French speakers in West Africa th in France.

      https://i.imgur.com/gRMdzoX.jpg

      What’s wrong with imperialism?

      It can come back to bite you in the ass.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >It can come back to bite you in the ass.
        Only if the country decides to let them in

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Hobson argues that capitalist business activity brought about imperialism.

      So Vladimir Lenin was right.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There are different kinds of imperialism as says, and he explains why classic imperialism is moronic. A much more sensible form of imperialism would be what the British did in Australia, Canada, the US and New Zealand.
      >Find sparsely populated continent filled with technologically backwards natives
      >Wipe out the natives and import people from your homeland homeland to the continent
      >Double, triple and quadruple the population over time
      >Economically integrate countries that despite being alien to Europe in environment are completely identical to an average North European nation
      >(Never got this far) Federalise the majority culturally white peoples into a megastate and become a superpower, while all the other countries are stuck dealing with Africans living in bronze age conditions

      Pic rel is what could've been if the bongs realised that Africa was a black hole and should be avoided, and that North America holds ridiculous potential.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm moronic i forgot the pic

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Wipe out the natives and import people from your homeland homeland to the continent
        All settler colonies used massive labour pools of people to mitigate labour costs. Australia constantly shipped in immigrants, Pacific Islanders and Mediterraneans. Southern Africa hinged 100% on African and coloured labour. Nearly all new world colonies made use of indentured labourers and/or slaves.

        >Economically integrate countries that despite being alien to Europe in environment are completely identical to an average North European nation.
        Never was the case. Settler states all had unique situations that never ever made them 1:1 with Northern European states.

        >(Never got this far) Federalise the majority culturally white peoples into a megastate and become a superpower, while all the other countries are stuck dealing with Africans living in bronze age conditions
        Why the frick would they federalist with some homosexuals back in the metropole that's liek chaining yourself to a bunch of old fricks. Even the southern African colonies that made use of post-Iron age Africans still sought to split from Europe post ww2

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >All settler colonies used massive labour pools of people to mitigate labour costs. Australia constantly shipped in immigrants, Pacific Islanders and Mediterraneans. Southern Africa hinged 100% on African and coloured labour. Nearly all new world colonies made use of indentured labourers and/or slaves

          Only with lands that warranted or whose only method of income production was slave heavy due to shitty soil. The south had absolutely shit soil so they had to dump all their economics on slavery, while 90% of the rest of the country got along just fine with the waves of free German immigrant labor

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Only with lands that warranted or whose only method of income production was slave heavy due to shitty soil
            Yet you say indentured labour and forced labour allover areas with good land in countless instances?

            >while 90% of the rest of the country got along just fine with the waves of free German immigrant labor
            That's not even remotely accurate. Even that free labour wasn't exactly free.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >That's not even remotely accurate. Even that free labour wasn't exactly free.
            Define the terms you are using chudlet. Instead of just going “nuh-uh” every time I use the term “free” or “labor”

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Because the issue of wage slavery was often brought up by people in the north (and south). Alongside that many areas had indentured labour contracts that often were exploitative due to the employer not exactly caring about the welfare of their workers.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That was a general trait of industry, not unique to colonialism

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >that North America holds ridiculous potential.
        That was only realized long long long after their colonial ambitions were finished in NA, the British did not have the ability to see 250+ years into the future and Am,ercia was successful BECAUSE it split from the UK. In Africa they had access to massive labour resevoirs and cash crops as well as pool of people to export products too. That's why India and Africa shared simialr dynamics in several aspects.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Every government maintained their colonies at a loss,
      Massive cope. Those Colonies were run on shoestring budgets and had massive cost cutting measures revisionists refuse to acknowledge

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When BIPOC do it?

    Nothing.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    we don't even know what imperialism is

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It wastes money.

  8. 1 year ago
    sage

    How did Ethiopia get cucked out of a coastline so hard? This bothers me. They used to be a regional power and at times could extend their influence into the Arab peninsula as well.

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