It's genetics, there really isn't one. My friends who started between 16-18 pass fine, and so do some people I know who started at 20. Shit, I know a grandmamoder who got on hrt at like 50 and passes as an old lady 10 years later.
Some people troon late and become ultrapassoids because they're luckshit.
Some people can never truly youngshit because even at a young age male puberty dealt them a horrible hand.
The only age at which it's truly fullproof is before male puberty and stopping it entirely. And even then puberty blockers are a hindrance in the sense that you need HRT at that age.
Some cis men are manlets, some even have small shoulders that some trans women would chop a leg off for. In the end the fates are cruel and passoid comes down to luck.
There is no clear cut age.
I never passed properly as a guy to begin with.
Meanwhile people thought my several years younger brother was my older brother or even my father.
It didn't take me long to pass, hell I'm shorter than the average woman, my voice never fully dropped, ai had gynecomastia and I started with long AF hair.
If my brother tried to troon at 16, he'd be screwed.
I was fine in my 20s.
Either way, repression isn't worth it.
Dysphoria is not going to get better and your chances are better today than tomorrow.
So stop repressing, start living
similar story here. I'm 20
Started hrt 5 months ago
at 19, I always got accused of being 13-14. No real facial hair, and always seen as a cuter younger boy, especially in masculine environments. I'm 5'7, voice never dropped so I always sounded faggy, and had gynecomastia. I had short hair until like a year ago tho.
>Either way, repression isn't worth it.
Dysphoria is not going to get better and your chances are better today than tomorrow.
So stop repressing, start living
kill yourself.
16
it really just comes down to your genes
for some people it's already fucking over by the time they are 13
Ye theirs a large variety. My voice hadn't had a main drop yet at 16 and I knew a few who would've been joever in freshman year HS
my voice was already deepening and I was getting hairs on my upper lip at 11
yesterday
11 for ftms 13 for mtfs
there is no set "age"
all i can tell you is
Yesterday would have been better, Tomorrow will be worse
there isn't one, it just gets harder and harder the older you get
there are people who started over 30 who are stealth and people who started at 15 who are hons
It's genetics, there really isn't one. My friends who started between 16-18 pass fine, and so do some people I know who started at 20. Shit, I know a grandmamoder who got on hrt at like 50 and passes as an old lady 10 years later.
14 for AGPs
25 for HSTS
Do youngshit agps even exist
The real answer is that it's genetic lottery.
Some people troon late and become ultrapassoids because they're luckshit.
Some people can never truly youngshit because even at a young age male puberty dealt them a horrible hand.
The only age at which it's truly fullproof is before male puberty and stopping it entirely. And even then puberty blockers are a hindrance in the sense that you need HRT at that age.
Some cis men are manlets, some even have small shoulders that some trans women would chop a leg off for. In the end the fates are cruel and passoid comes down to luck.
There is no clear cut age.
I never passed properly as a guy to begin with.
Meanwhile people thought my several years younger brother was my older brother or even my father.
It didn't take me long to pass, hell I'm shorter than the average woman, my voice never fully dropped, ai had gynecomastia and I started with long AF hair.
If my brother tried to troon at 16, he'd be screwed.
I was fine in my 20s.
Either way, repression isn't worth it.
Dysphoria is not going to get better and your chances are better today than tomorrow.
So stop repressing, start living
You literally must be intersex, that’s like ultimate luckshit
similar story here. I'm 20
Started hrt 5 months ago
at 19, I always got accused of being 13-14. No real facial hair, and always seen as a cuter younger boy, especially in masculine environments. I'm 5'7, voice never dropped so I always sounded faggy, and had gynecomastia. I had short hair until like a year ago tho.
>Either way, repression isn't worth it.
Dysphoria is not going to get better and your chances are better today than tomorrow.
So stop repressing, start living
kill yourself.
1 year younger than whenever you started
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t. A boymoder from beyond the stars
Obviously, your mom has to have only ever thought of you as a girl. Like, when you were in the womb. -9 months
There is no cutoff age. It's a skill issue.