Whats the point of doing anything? All creative works can now be made by machines. Architecture? Art? Music?

What’s the point of doing anything? All creative works can now be made by machines. Architecture? Art? Music? You name it, AI will make it better than you. Scientific pursuits are next. Romance will be replaced by sexbots. What leaves the human being to do? Consume until we die?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This is your mind on atheism

    Friend, turn to Jehovah if you want a meaningful life

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Take this fag's advice if you want to burn in hell

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hell doesn't exist, it's a pagan doctrine that already existed in Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Indian and Greek religion. It was then adopted by professed "christians" and later by islam.

        Eternal torment would violate God’s justice. (Deuteronomy 32:4) When the first man, Adam, sinned, God told him that his punishment would simply be to pass out of existence:
        “Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19)

        God would have been LYING if he were actually sending Adam to a fiery hell !!!

        God does not even contemplate eternal torment. The idea that he would punish people in hellfire is contrary to the Bible’s teaching that “God is LOVE.”—1 John 4:8; Jeremiah 7:31.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >weeping and gnashing of teethe
          Uh, its just a metaphor bro.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes ? It literally is

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is your brain on McDonalds and mutt genes.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am French

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            pretty sure our head cannon is that this particular magazine salesman is french.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              which is kind of weird if you think about, why would a french people convert to a schizoid burger cult?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jehovah's witnesses are neither a cult nor american

                It's not a cult because cults and dangerous and manipulative yet our beliefs improve the lives of people and are based on facts and logic.

                It's not American because it was founded by Jesus Christ in 33 AD during Pentecost in Antioch.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are american, founded in pennsylvania in the late 19th cewntury by an alleged adulturer. I never understood why all these protestants fixated upon the bible so much given that the apostates had essentially free reign with what they wanted to do with the book since the great apostasy to whenever pastor jim discovered da reel faith of jesus christ.
                And I don't know enough about the JWW structure to know if it was a cult. probably is though. Seems to operate like one.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was founded in the US but this schizo insists Christ was a JW.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They insist john wycliffe was a JW too.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Proof of the contrary ?

                It's not implicit it's explicit dumb frog cultist troon
                Another puzzle: how does Jesus save if there's no damnation? What's gracious about the cross if there is no hell? What am I saved from?

                You should be especially worried since you do not follow the Christ of the bible and are yourself going to that sickening location

                Imagine, for a moment, the following horrific scene: A person is being roasted on a hot iron plate. In his agony he screams for mercy, but nobody listens. The torture goes on and on, hour after hour, day after day—without pause !

                Whatever crime the victim may have committed, would not your heart go out to him? What of the one who ordered the torture? Could he be a loving person ?

                In no way !!!

                Love is merciful and shows pity. A loving father may punish his children, but he would NEVER torture them !

                >how does Jesus save if there's no damnation? What's gracious about the cross if there is no hell? What am I saved from?

                Glad you asked !

                Although Adam was created to live forever, his sin brought upon him the penalty of death. Through Adam, “sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned.”—Romans 5:12.

                In contrast, Jesus’ death not only removed the blemish of sin but also canceled the death sentence for all who exercise faith in him. The Bible sums up matters this way: “Just as sin ruled as king with death, so also undeserved kindness might rule as king through righteousness leading to everlasting life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”—Romans 5:21.

                Of course, humans today still have a limited life span. However, God promises that he will grant righteous humans everlasting life and resurrect the dead so that they too can benefit from Jesus’ sacrificial death.—Psalm 37:29; 1 Corinthians 15:22.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Dirk

                >infinite punishment is unjust
                Why? by what standard?

                Don't you think sin against an infinite being qualifies one for infinite punishment?
                Even if you say "no", I have didactic teaching in the bible for hell, while you have an arbitrary council of liars in new york telling you what to think

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why? by what standard?

                God's standards.

                eternal torment of the wicked INCOMPATIBLE with God’s personality

                Jer. 7:31: “They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.”

                If it never came into God’s heart, surely he does not have and use such a thing on a larger scale.

                Illustration: What would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing ?

                “God is LOVE.” (1 John 4:8)

                Would he do what no right-minded human parent would do ?

                Certainly not !

                I don't worship a cruel and vicious god like that

              • 2 weeks ago
                Dirk

                Citations do not support the assertion

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It does if you use critical thinking instead of believing whatever your pastors teach

                Studying history doesn't hurt too

                And here's what history says:

                “It is noteworthy that in the N[ew] T[estament] we do not find hell fire to be a part of the [early Christian] preaching.”—A Dictionary of Christian Theology.

                “From the middle of the 2nd century [C.E.] Christians who had some training in Greek philosophy began to feel the need to express their faith in its terms . . . The philosophy that suited them best was Platonism [the teachings of Plato].” (Encyclopædia Britannica)

                That philosophy included belief in fiery torment after death.

                “Of all classical Greek philosophers, the one who has had the greatest influence on traditional views of Hell is Plato.”—Histoire des enfers (The History of Hell).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Dirk

                These don't support the assertion either retard
                You claimed eternal punishment is unjust by god's standard and attempted to show it from the bible. Show me that principle in the bible.

                Also I just feel the need to remind you that you have a poor grasp of the English language and speak way out of line

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus is the first JW

                Then the angels, then Adam, then Noah, Israel, Jesus and the Christians up to this day all are Jehovah's witnesses

                Jehovah is He who is absolute, perfect, complete, essential, self-sufficient and sufficient to meet the needs of all creation; the one eternally and constantly required and sought, depended upon by all existence and to whom all matters will ultimately return

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Delusions

              • 2 weeks ago
                Dirk

                I love it when he gets more animated like this because I know there's lurkers and casual readers that he's alienating from the cult

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why ?

                I love it when he gets more animated like this because I know there's lurkers and casual readers that he's alienating from the cult

                >I'm in a cult because...I don't believe God tortures people in hell

                They are american, founded in pennsylvania in the late 19th cewntury by an alleged adulturer. I never understood why all these protestants fixated upon the bible so much given that the apostates had essentially free reign with what they wanted to do with the book since the great apostasy to whenever pastor jim discovered da reel faith of jesus christ.
                And I don't know enough about the JWW structure to know if it was a cult. probably is though. Seems to operate like one.

                We didn't invent a new religion.

                In the 19th century, a small group of Bible students who lived near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the United States, began a systematic analysis of the Bible.

                They compared the doctrines taught by the churches with what the Bible really teaches. They began publishing what they learned in books, newspapers, and the journal that is now called The Watchtower—Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom.

                They took the lead in the Bible education work at that time but were not the founders of a new religion.

                The goal of the Bible Students, as the group was then known, was to promote the teachings of Jesus Christ and to follow the practices of the first-century Christian congregation.

                In 1931, they took a new name: Jehovah's Witnesses !

                Since JESUS is the Founder of Christianity, we view HIM as the founder of our organization.
                —Colossians 1:18-20.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Dirk

                You're in a cult because your religious movement is domineering and outside of historic doctrinal orthodoxy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >your religious movement is domineering

                It's almost like...a religion has RULES !

                >and outside of historic doctrinal orthodoxy

                Everything I believe in comes from the Word of God.

                And that includes the belief that God is LOVE, not a monster who rejoices over torturing people in fire as if leaped from the pages of the Aztec pantheon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm in a cult because...I don't believe God tortures people in hell
                The cult acussations do mostly stem from the Bahviour of the JW as an organization, such as social ostracization of apostates.
                >In the 19th century, a small group of Bible students who lived near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the United States, began a systematic analysis of the Bible.
                Which of course could survive around 1500 years of being entirely upon the hands of apostates save 3 guys in a mountain. Because idk god made it so the catholics etc didn't edit the book however they pleased.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >social ostracization of apostates.

                If they left the true religion that means they want to be left alone, so we respect their wishes and leave them alone and don't interfere with their life.

                I fail to see the issue.

                Other religions like islam chase after apostates to kill them yet they are considered a religion.

                >Which of course could survive around 1500 years of being entirely upon the hands of apostates save 3 guys in a mountain. Because idk god made it so the catholics etc didn't edit the book however they pleased.

                In his illustration of the wheat and the weeds, Jesus foretold a great rebellion (apostasy) against true Christianity. (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43) For a long period of time, true Christians and false Christians would be indistinguishable. Just as Jesus foretold, the apostasy flourished after the apostles died. (Acts 20:29, 30)
                Jesus also predicted that the distinction between true and false Christianity would eventually become clear. This has happened in our time, during the “conclusion of a system of things.”—Matthew 13:30, 39.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck if I know anon. The only way I see is to either do very stupid shit (dangerous to yourself and others or illegal) or to just keep your chin up and to keep advancing. You can be consoled with the fact a machine will never be able to actually create real art. Sure, it will completely displace and outcompete every reddit illustrator, coca cola jingle composer and car insurancecommercial writer. Maybe even entertainment writer.But it will never be able to do art. Not with the tech we have now at least (plus all the things it generates usually never look quite right same with the things it writes). Maybe you can try to do art.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Dirk

    Here's a puzzle for you: why do portrait artists exist in current year despite the fact that cameras exist and are now carried around with us everywhere?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's a puzzle for you: Have you ever seen someone tortured ?

      I hope not.

      Deliberate torture is SICKENING and ABHORRENT !!!

      What, though, of torture inflicted by God ? Can you imagine such a thing ?

      Yet, this is exactly what is implied by the teaching of hellfire, an official doctrine in your religion.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Dirk

        It's not implicit it's explicit dumb frog cultist troon
        Another puzzle: how does Jesus save if there's no damnation? What's gracious about the cross if there is no hell? What am I saved from?

        You should be especially worried since you do not follow the Christ of the bible and are yourself going to that sickening location

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well that and you will never be able to get anything meaningful out of a computer, the thing just recombines and mashes images. quite badly sometimes

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fucking armchair theologians ruining my thread.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I for one am happy about all the lurkers and casual readers witnessing how the lies of catholico-protestant orthodoxy is being exposed

      These don't support the assertion either retard
      You claimed eternal punishment is unjust by god's standard and attempted to show it from the bible. Show me that principle in the bible.

      Also I just feel the need to remind you that you have a poor grasp of the English language and speak way out of line

      >These don't support the assertion either

      Yes they do.

      The idea of eternal torment is REPUGNANT to God. (Jeremiah 32:35) Such an idea is CONTRARY to the Bible’s teaching that “God is love.” (1 John 4:8) He wants us to worship him out of love, not fear of eternal torment.—Matthew 22:36-38.

      The dead are unconscious and so cannot feel pain. “Neither work, nor reason, nor wisdom, nor knowledge, shall be in hell.” (Ecclesiastes 9:10, Douay-Rheims Version) Hell is not filled with sounds of pain. Free yourself from the clutches of paganism, wordhip God with spirit and truth.

      Do not ascribe to him the horrific traits of a psychopath. Jehovah is love and wickedness is absent from his nature.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1)

    Where is hell ??

    It says right here, "HEAVEN" and "EARTH"

    God DIDN'T create HELL, it's not mentionned, it's nowhere

    It's not in heaven because catholislam claims to go DOWN to hell

    It's not between heaven and earth because there is just AIR

    But it's not on earth either because SCIENCE has already dug inside the earth and there's the CRUST and the but NO. HELL.

    How come ?

    Because

    It comes from PAGAN RELIGION. Hell was invented in the time of NIMROD and has since spread to other ancient civilizations like India, Egypt, Mesopotamia and Greece

    btw israelites DON'T believe in hell

    Catholislam has adopted this heathen belief and fearmongers their believers with this fake teaching. Babylon the Great (all false religions) feeds on such distortions of truth to mass control its devotees.

    Claiming hell exists is calling God a liar.

    True worshippers of GOD do not believe in hell. Reject the lies of your imams and priests, embrace the truth.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Dirk

    >eternal torment is repugnant to god (jer 32:35)
    “They built the high places of Baal in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to offer up their sons and daughters to Molech, though I did not command them, nor did it enter into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.” (Jer 32:35, ESV)

    Citation does not support the assertion

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing ?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Dirk

        I would think you're trying to change the subject

        >Bible says hell doesn't exist
        >History says hell doesn't exist

        >But Dirk says it does, and he is smarter than everyone else

        not everyone but definitely you

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I would think you're trying to change the subject

          You said Jeremiah 32:35 does not support the assertion that hellfire is incompatible with God's personally.

          I'm asking you, what would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing ?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Dirk

            No, I said the verse fails to condemn *eternal* torment. The means of torment is irrelevant and the fire typology thing you're trying to pull is an obvious red herring

            Don't reply with anything else but an argument that the verse YOU brought up condemns eternal punishment full stop

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing FOR ETERNITY ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Dirk

                not an argument

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Answer the question and then we we will see whether it's an argument or not

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not everyone but definitely you

          Definitely me what ?

          Am I being accused of citing the Bible ?

          Wpuld you want me to cite the church fathers instead ? Or your theology scholars at the seminar ?

          Surely you would agree God's Word is the highest authority we must appeal to.

          And God's word says that he has set death, NOT torment in a fiery hell, as the penalty for sin.

          God told the first man, Adam, that the penalty for breaking God’s law would be death. (Genesis 2:17) He said NOTHING about eternal torment in hell !!

          Later, after Adam sinned, God told him what his punishment would be: “DUST you are and to DUST you will return.” (Genesis 3:19)

          He would pass out of existence. If God were actually sending Adam to a fiery hell, He surely would have mentioned it. God has not changed the punishment for defying his laws.

          Long after Adam sinned, God inspired a Bible writer to say: “The wages sin pays is death.” (Romans 6:23) No further penalty is justified, because “the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”—Romans 6:7.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Dirk

            there's profound dramatic irony here when the ESL trying to prove he's not stupid can't even parse the single sentence calling him stupid

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm stupid because...I quote from the Bible

              Meanwhile, still waiting for your answer

              what would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing FOR ETERNITY ?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bible says hell doesn't exist
    >History says hell doesn't exist

    >But Dirk says it does, and he is smarter than everyone else

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While Dirk is typing his reply to answer my question, let me inform everyone that it was Satan, in the garden of Eden, (at Genesis 3:1-5,) who contradicted God outright, saying, "You positively will not die," and that we are "bound to be like God."

    Thus was born the concept of the immortality of the soul and from it, all manner of guesswork about what happens to this immortal soul was born and developed.

    As a result, the first destructive religion against God was born, bringing death to its adherents, using the doctrine of the immortality of the soul to control people with intimidation, providing a self-reinforcing dogma that keeps people trapped into the belief out of fear of burning in eternal judgment in an afterlife, and trapped into whatever else the deceiver tells them.

    Of this one, Jesus said, "The Devil ... was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie." (John 8:44)

    Should we listen to even a single word of that liar ??

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you reply with 'not an argument' or 'Citation does not support the assertion' I will consider this conversation a victory for JEHOVAH

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The idea that “the machines are going to take over” is one that’s been around as long as the written word, if not longer. From the Luddite movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, to the Industrial Revolution. Now as now, technology is progressing at an exponentially increasing rate and there’s no stopping it. Some argue that this is a good thing, others that the machines will ultimately bring about the demise of humanity.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The belief in Hellfire was used to justify TORTURE

    During the time period commonly referred to as the Spanish Inquisition, those convicted of heresy and burned at the stake were said to be given “a taste of what perpetual hellfire would be like,” supposedly in hopes that they would repent before dying. (The Spanish Inquisition, by Jean Plaidy)

    Similarly, Queen Mary I of England burned some 300 Protestants at the stake, reportedly believing that “as the souls of heretics are afterwards to be eternally burning in hell, there could be nothing more proper than to imitate the divine vengeance, by burning them on earth.”—Universal History, by Alexander Tytler.

    Protestants too, burned other people to the stake. Calvin set my JW brother Michael Servetus on fire simply for refusing to buy the LIE of the trinity.

    Have JWs ever set anyone on fire or tormented someone ?

    No, because our God is a God of PEACE, MERCY and TOLERANCE.

    Protestants could consciencisouly inflict agony and pain to other people because the apple does not fall far from the tree !

    Their GOD is like this as well ! And so are the GODSnof catholics and islam !

    8.8 BILLION deaths throughout history !!

    I for one will tell all the Indians, Arab, israelites and Meso-Americans that your religion KILLED that it was an apostate form of Christianity that murdered them once they are resurrected and I meet them in paradise

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing literally matters I’m on this mud rock solely to suffer

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >another thread instantly ruined by religious schizos
    /rel/ board when?

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