What's the point of all these custom .ISOs?
Are they for people who play on a PC with few resources, or who is this aimed at?
They have senses?
What's the point of all these custom .ISOs?
What's the point of all these custom .ISOs?
Are they for people who play on a PC with few resources, or who is this aimed at?
They have senses?
>designed for gamers
Letting children use computers in the 2000s was a mistake.
they are made for gaming or low end pc at the point you can run win11 in pc's from 2007.
Like ghost spectre build which is win10/win11 debloated.
>where's the cute image thread
?
why doesn't Microsoft make a debloated gamer version of Windows themselves?
because microsoft makes money from collecting and selling your data, selling an os is a very small part of it. Windows 10 and 11 is basically free and they let you use it without paying for a reason.
>Windows 10 and 11 is basically free and they let you use it without paying for a reason.
Doesn't that mean not giving them your data is piracy?
I wouldn't be surprised if microsoft actually argued that in court one day, but the average normie has no idea that microsoft even collects their data through windows, let alone the fact that they can disable it. As long as most normies don't know or don't care, their business model will work fine. They didn't give out free versions of 2000, xp, vista, 7, etc. back in the day because they weren't data collecting beasts like 10 and 11 are; so they relied on sales primarily. By the win10 era they had data collection, telemetry, etc. all figured out which is why they pushed windows 10 so hard
> let alone the fact that they can disable
that's what you think homosexual
I don't use windows. You can disable the most obvious forms but of course it's closed source and you can never know what's actually going on behind the scenes fully.
They already have XBox for the child market.
They have said, many, many times, that windows isn't for people who play games on it. The fact you can use windows to play a video game is a side effect of windows being able to run business software and if all game compatibility broke, they wouldn't care.
>if all game compatibility broke, they wouldn't care.
lol, no way that people believe this
they've said this before many times. Microsoft would prefer if you used Windows 365 in the cloud and did all your gaming on an Xbox
Not a stretch considering leaks show future windows versions will be cloud based. That sounds like a nightmare for gaming if you don't have perfect internet. microsoft already tried the 24/7 online thing with the xbox one and it flopped, but pretty much everyone has an internet connection now and most people don't care about offline media, etc.
>That sounds like a nightmare for gaming
And a dream come true for the rest of us.
why would they want the windows market share to die? that WOULD happen if they turn off the ability for LULZ neets to play their bing bing wahoos
What would realistically happen if they did something full retard like disable 32 bit programs (something they have discussed doing before) is that one of their actual customers like Adobe would throw a fit and they would backpedal, hard. The cloud stuff doesn't actually offend their actual customers because they want to be in the cloud, too.
realistically speaking, how many people that use windows play games really? Most of the userbase is people that only use chrome to open up facebook, gmail, maybe youtube, etc. and then do nothing else. Most people don't even need windows, what they need a chromebook.
People use stuff like photoshop or autocad but you wouldn't need fast internet for that if it was running on the cloud. People that play video games (or take them seriously rather) are kind of a minority. They'll need to get better internet if they can't run their games or stick to an older version of windows (until microsoft abandons it and devs stop supporting it).
That's why I'm really happy with Valve investing money into linux. Playing games on linux was a joke even just a few years ago, but with proton you can easily run most games on steam right now, and the steam deck was a massive success. It will only get better as the years go by. Some people on this board have a massive hate boner for linux but I've never seen them making a good argument as to why microsoft should have a monopoly over humanity with windows.
Because licux are fucking full of themselves and I would like anything except linux to win.
I don't care about Windows specifically. Macs can win and I won't complain.
>I would like anything except linux to win.
Indians truly live rent free in your head.
sounds like you need some GNU plus agent orange
based selfdoxxbro, never suscribe to the linux meme
>i'm not that asian turd, i am this other asian turd
lmao
issue with macs is that most software doesn't even work on it. Apple likes to have their own inner circle of programs and everything else doesn't matter to them. Just look at how bad macs are for gaming right now.
I think the issue is just that linux elitists are a very loud minority. Most casual linux users don't even mention it unless they're asked about it or it's related to the topic.
I like the linux philosophy though, as in it's your computer and you can do whatever the hell you want with it, and no one can tell you otherwise. You can also choose whatever distro you want that appeals to your preferences the most, it's not a one size fits all situation.
You forget something extremely important my bangladeshi friend: The work linux tards are doing on Wine transfers over to MacOS, too. Wine isn't restricted to Linux. Neither is Lutris. Both of them can be ran on MacOS too. So you should be thanking daddy Gabe for that as well.
The fuck are you gonna connect to Windows 365 from if not from a Windows 8/8.1/10/11? At that point might as well just play the game on your local OS
>inb4 mandatory thin clients
I don't think they can pull it off
>I don't think they can pull it off
I think it's the natural direction honestly. The leaks show they are in-fact working on it/testing it out. They'll probably shit it out when they feel it's good enough for the average normie that doesn't really care if they have control over their computer or not. Keep in mind they tried the 24/7 online thing with xbox one back in 2013, it's something they've been scheming with for a while.
>They have said, many, many times, that windows isn't for people who play games on it.
>they've said this before many times.
Post a link to any of these "many times."
straightforward bullshit lol, they expend huge development resources on DirectX stuff for PC
Case in point, DirectStorage in Windows 11
hilarious. if windows didn't have games Microsoft would go down in matter of months
I hate to break it to you but the only game the average normie is playing is candy crash on their phone. Most people either don't play games on a computer or have a console.
you're delusional
gaming is the biggest market segment for pc
Is this bait? Who exactly do you think is shelling out for desktops en masse? Government, corporations, military, contractors, offices, studios etc. They all buy them including licenses for all software.
Gamers are a drop in that bucket.
all those listed buy outdated and second hand garbage, save for couple workstations.
governments and military uses old as fuck garbage, some still use DOS.
corporations save money on EVERYTHING.
again, you're delusional.
games is the biggest entertainment industriy on the planet, its bigger than cinema, hollywood.
no business (other than mining) is buying thousands of RTX cards and 12 core processors.
gaymers buy a pc every few years, pirate windows and cobble fixes together when their shit doesn't work
gaymers don't buy 500 laptops at the same time for the entire office, and they sure as fuck didn't pay a single cent for the license
corporations and governments don't just buy pc en masse, they buy people to shout at when things don't work
and the people to shout at cost a lot, and all of that money goes to microsoft instead of random companies like msi nvidia intel etc
windows isnt the product
you're the product
if Linux supported games and basic software seamlessly and natively, windows share of market would plummet overnight
Linux already supported games and basic software seamlessly, where's the promised plummet now?
it still doesn't. you cope. only autists will troubleshoot Linux when 99%of things just don't work out the box.
also we pirate every version of Windows. which we should, because Windows isn't a good platform for games.
Wrong and very stupid. It's like you're talking about MacOS.
And yet it seems like they freaked out when proton took off and suddenly invested millions into the next phase of EEE'ing Linux with the subsystems.
I think it's just high-level corporate cope honestly
>why doesn't microsoft spend time and effort into making a better version of a product that doesn't earn them ad revenue
retard
microsoft already has the reputation as making a slow bloated OS. that's not a good long term marketing strategy
>What is an Xbox
does an xbox come in laptop form factor?
Bloated overpriced corporate spyware, made by morons for morons. Only the Playstation is worse than that shit.
Because "gamers" are only a tiny, tiny, tiny portion of their sales of Windows. It's not worth their time.
Without gamers Windows would lose to Apple.
Windows will never lose to Apple as long as they own the business space. Apple only owns the creative space.
Are you stupid? Windows 95 famously had a memory allocator which had incorrect behavior; a flaw that programmers working at Maxis abused heavily while writing SimCity. Their reliance on the allocator behavior ened up being a problem later, when the bug was fixed SimCity would cause segfaults and a crash. Microsoft knew that games were a huge selling feature, and hard coded an if statement into their memory allocator specifically to check if the application was SimCity, and behave in the old way for that single program.
The idea that Microsoft doesn't care about gamers is fucking retarded
>The idea that Microsoft
you meant Old Microsoft.
Because that would mean removing their useless telemetry and garbage software bloat.
How else do you preinstall bitcoin miners on guillible retards?
they're made for retards who use Windows in current year + 8
2031 time travelers know what's good
>doesn't know we live in current year + 8
begone newfag, to whatever abyss ye came from
current year will always be 2016
But, just install windows and use the titus debloat shit and that's it, more fps? I don't think the custom ISO gives you more fps
They're for people who hate bloat. Most people don't like having 50 popup ads in their start menu between telemetry polls and gay flags in their task bar. They want to use their computer for a specific purpose because it's a tool and not a fashion statement. People who want to use their computer for fashion statements buy Macs, not Windows.
Custom ISOs, thoughbeitever, is the patchwork solution to get around the fact Microsoft treats its users like inbred, starving milk cattle in a factory being beaten and tased to produce more milk. intelligent people stick with LTSC versions to accomplish this goal.
the anon who thinks he's smart for using custom isos... HAHAHAHAHHAHAH
Absolute fucking cope, if you're using a pre-built windows to remove bloat it's because you're too fucking retarded to debloat or 'optimise' it for yourself (whatever that fucking means kek).
pre-built windows isos are absolutely for morons and they have no value other than to facilitate stupid people in their stupid activities.
If you're not using linux as your main in 2023 (with a partition for windows that you only use when proton/wine won't work) then you shouldn't even fucking be here. I'm sick of winfags getting a free pass because they're not apple. Facts the average winfag is only marginally less retarded.
they know most game consumers have no integrity and will download anything for muh games.
>MUH TEGRIDY
You're not smart, Randy.
>custom isos
>LTSC
PFFFT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>no integrity
A computer is a tool. If you're using a computer to make some kind of moral statement to nobody but yourself I suggest you take medication.
Tricking kids into using malware.
These are for normies who use current Windows but noticed how shit it became recently with all the bloats and spying shits (actually a lot of people). Which is kinda ironic because who knows what is in these iso-s. These people are also too scared to use something better like Chris Titus' tool or lts Windows.
just use the latest LTSC, avoid this mysteryiso shit
It made my win10 ent vm run much much faster
This seems to be the real power of these 'stripped' isos and distros: The ability to run them in a VM on my Linux machine
They also run better on bare metal
you're no better vietranny
meant for
Some of them are actually very well done with custom themes included.
How does one copy their debloat config to default Windows install?
Is there an App to help with that?
>How does one copy their debloat config to default Windows install?
>Is there an App to help with that?
Most of them run as a post-install script (called a 'playbook') on a working version of Windows. Atlas OS does this, now. You install windows and then run AME Wizard to execute the playbook.
GNU/Linux is your friend.
I just don't get why anyone hates Linux, even if you don't use it, isn't more competition and an alternative a good thing?
The funniest part is if Windows 12 breaks compatibility with older 32 bit apps like Windows 7 did with 16 bit and 10 did with older DX8 games. Windows users will be installing Wine just to use apps that are a few years old.
I don't hate linux, i use it myself, i just hate the fat smelly nerds that constantly lie about what it can and can't do and demand that people who have no business using it use it.
>people who have no business using it
You just described most Linux users.
They are too retarded to use an OS that requires human level IQ. Is simple as that.
>What's the point of all these custom .ISOs?
malwares on top of government approved malware.
Retards love to use broken windows installs with all kinds of "tweaks" and "debloating" that fucks everything up and then complain that windows is shit
LMAO, imagine using a vanilla version that can install "updates" and restart at random while running dozens of useless services filled with backdoors wasting bandwidth.
LTSC solves most of that tho
LTSC doesn't exist for W11 atm
That just means Win11 isnt stable and not worth using.
windows is already fucked up by default. Trying to use windows without getting rid of most bullshit/bloat is like browsing the web in 2023 without an adblocker.
>What's the point of all these custom .ISOs?
For spreading malware.
You're saying this as if windows itself isn't basically malware
Having been down the rabbit hole. People are fed up with the bloat and shit from Microsoft. It splits into 2 groups here, some will debloat until shit becomes unstable while others remove only what's needed. Arguably Win10 is in a good place currently, only recieving security updates and not breaking the OS every 6 months.
Next comes performance and latency. Microsoft are continually adding power savings to Windows, messing with timers etc. and makes gaming feel like shit. This divides into 2 crowds again with what I call "facts vs feel". The facts guys test with LDAT tools etc. for input latency while the " feel" guys only go from how the mouse feels. Having been on both sides, they are both correct unironically. Some settings do change how the mouse feels while having zero impact on latency (ie XHCi handoff on vs off in BIOS). Security and mitigations etc. also play a part. The only use case scenario I've seen was somebody using it on a steam deck and getting 10-20 more fps.
Then it comes to which """distro""" you want to use. Many of them have moved away from custom ISO's after feedback from the community and Microsoft taking AME down etc. Try them all and see how it goes.
The people using it are a mixture. Some have top end hardware and want the maximum FPS / lowest latency while others are turd worlders on 15 year old laptops. About 5 years ago the groups got shitted up by normalfags and kids because their favourite YouTuber said to go use this "ISO for more FPS". The public chats are full of retarded kids bricking their PC's, not knowing what drivers are, fucking up their parents laptop etc. and losing all their files. Funny as fuck to read.
These days I just use LTSC 2021 IoT with some minor tweaks.
Is that Atlas?
No, it's my own and on 1709. You can't get below about 48 processes anymore on newer builds.
>The public chats are full of retarded kids bricking their PC's
How the fuck do you even brick a PC?
Soft-lock rather. They install a new ISO but don't know what drivers are and have no other PC or USB to connect to so they are stuck at the desktop without internet.
Share the tweaks anon
>resources
Luser detected.
>Luser
Wow, you came up with that by yourself?
It's a term far older than you, zoomer.
It mostly comes down to both ignorance and poorhomosexualry. Most people who use those are either thirdies on unemployed manchildren who want to keep their core 2 duo PC running but refuse to switch to linux (even though linux would most likely do just fine for their usecase). They will just cope by saying that "linux it is not ready" and instead download those hacky images that have like 25% chance of actually booting.
Linuxfags have 999999 ditros
winfags have 9999999 custom isos
Both are fags
>I mad about getting repeatedly cucked by Wangblows
>I'm too retarded for anything
thats the target market
For GAYmers by GAYmers
this is fresh windows 10 pro, no custom iso, no wizard shit, no tweaks. Just unisntall the default apps, uninstall edge.
STOP the palcebo meme
that's an EOL OS anon.
LTSC is supported until 2027, what are you talking about
tick tock, i'm sure its continued usage won't be attached at the hip to endless whining online about how much better the experience is while simultaneously complaining about how they're making it so you can't play anything.
Can you repeat that in English sir
i'll put it in your native tongue: अपने आप को मार डालो, मंदबुद्धि।
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 is even supported until 2032 and is arguably the best version to use because it comes with zero of the bloatware.
Now I understand those bastards who stayed on Windows 7. My little dignity and I stay on Windows 10
>What's the point of all these custom .ISOs?
They are a botnet, just like XP Gold edition.
There's always been tweaking groups but they have blown up in the past 5 years. Really says how much people don't like modern Windows.
I think using these alt windows packages for removing bloat is a potential OPSEC mistake. What these iso packages do is understandable (I've tried ReviOS in the past), but what irks me is the idea that someone can just include something malicious in their iso package and labeling it as "Windows for Gamers". If I recall correctly the way these windows builds are made is in a proprietary manner with closed-source code so I don't think it's too tinfoil-y to think that's scary.
Most of these aren't ISO's anymore and are post-install tweaks in forms of playbooks or scripts. All open source.
>All open source.
Lol no
Ok, which ones aren't open source?
So what's best?
Calypto, Fr33thy, Atlas, Fox, GG, Revi, Amitxv, NTLite "Gamer OS", LTSC, ChristTitus?
they're for turd worlders
SADEEM WHY U REDEEM
>who is this aimed at?
So you know how Microsoft stops updating old operating systems because they're cheap and all of a sudden nobody releases new programs compatible with them anymore? Those people use custom .ISOs so they can still get new versions of shit on their old hardware. I've also seen people with shit PCs run pre-release versions of Windows since they're often compatible with the same shit but have a lot lower hardware requirements.
>I've also seen people with shit PCs run pre-release versions of Windows since they're often compatible with the same shit but have a lot lower hardware requirements.
..Does that work?
>t. trying to find a way right now to keep Windows 7 because my computer is too shit for Windows 10 and all my old games and even one of my hard drives break with 10
Malware has been around for decades. How is this new?