What's the difference between hope and cope, they seem to overlap.
I read more about this experiment and it seems he did deliberately let some of the rats die instead of pulling them out at the last minute when they sunk to the bottom.
Post-industrial NW-C Europeans feel more like a Lovecraftian terror to me than primitive cannibalistic savages like Western Africans. Humorously enough, I think that's what the philosophy of Ludwig Klages leads one to conclude...
>bro it was TOTALLY necessary to leave them for over two days in the water until they died instead of saving them once it was proven that they could resist for much longer if they hoped to be saved
Ive almost drowned multiple times as im a terrible swimmer and was a moronic impulsive child. There are worse ways to go. At the end its actually kind of peaceful staring up at the sunlight as you know you are about to die. Maybe im just morbid though.
Calls to mind that roman dude who said something like 'it is pleasant to watch from the shore the struggles of another'
So what is your solution, dumb c**t? Effectively increase animal cruelty in the world? What, else, do you think the effect would be if everyone policed them at every instance they could speak up about something, just because they grew up eating meat (dailyish) and it has been totally normalized to them?
And for what? All because of some human, all too human, and autistic effort in keeping the argumentative high ground?
He wouldnt eat beans because they looked like fetuses and he was afraid he would eat an old friend. He claimed to remember all his past lives too. Dude was wild for a thrice damned thracian
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>He wouldnt eat beans because they looked like fetuses and he was afraid he would eat an old friend. He claimed to remember all his past lives too. Dude was wild for a thrice damned thracian
Sometimes I wonder if it wasn't better to live in the classical period where people basically knew nothing about anything and you could say shit like this and people would nod and go "hmm, yes, that's entirely possible" like it wasn't fricking bananas.
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Id kill myself if i had to hear sophists argue about moronic shit. Id rather live in ancient persia tbh
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>Id kill myself if i had to hear sophists argue about moronic shit
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Only the good stuff survived history. Just look at that homie socrates. Tell me you wouldnt go insane listening to him ask 'why?' everytime you said something self evident48th2
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Why would you go insane? Why would it bother you that something you believed is self evident is questioned?
I drowned a rat the other day. It was kind of saw seeing him swim around in circles with some air bubbles popping up every 20 seconds or so. But then I remembered it's a fricking rat, so frick em.
Rats and raccoons are based and can be trained. Ive had both as wild animal buddies before. The rat would ride around on my shoulder and literally thumb his nose at my dogs keke
Rats are repulsive disgusting pests objectively, but even I've gotta say that's pretty fricked up to do to any living being. Krauts are truly subhuman holy frick.
What are you supposed to do with a rat caught in a live trap nowadays? Most of what I'm reading says to trap it in a fricking grocery bag and smack it against the wall.
>anons absolutely seethe that a researcher uses rats to find out important psychological and bioligcal functions cause they feel more empathy for some pest bringing rats then they do other actual humans
Maybe start caring about the kidnapped children in the world instead of some random animal that killed more people then all wars in history combined.
What I don't understand is why so many people are seething at the suffering of rats. Rats aren't equal to men and it's worthwhile and ethical to torture and kill millions of them if it benefits humanity, change my mind (you can't).
They're more like the opposite, hope is the belief that a good thing will happen, coping is generally accepting an inferior thing as positive. As an example for someone who wants to get married and have kids.
Hope: "I'm sure that I'll marry a cute girl and have a lot of kids."
Cope: "There's nothing wrong with marrying a single mother who got her tubes tied."
>I can assure you, the rat drowning experiment was absolutely crucial for the advancement of psychology.
>Richter was born on February 20, 1894, in Denver, Colorado to
<<< immigrants.
the wikipedia early life section never fails as always. of course he is a germ
Lmfao
Fricking krauts
I read more about this experiment and it seems he did deliberately let some of the rats die instead of pulling them out at the last minute when they sunk to the bottom.
>National Academy of Sciences
>Ben Barres was the first openly transgender
Do scientist get elected hijack?
>Richter
Swedish German
I never post but I had to respond to this. Thank you for making me laugh, anon
Post-industrial NW-C Europeans feel more like a Lovecraftian terror to me than primitive cannibalistic savages like Western Africans. Humorously enough, I think that's what the philosophy of Ludwig Klages leads one to conclude...
It’s actually hugely impactful to have those data. Hard data proving that belief in yourself is genuinely effective
Technically he only proved that it worked on rats.
Turns out it’s a good model and rarely doesn’t work for things like this.
>bro it was TOTALLY necessary to leave them for over two days in the water until they died instead of saving them once it was proven that they could resist for much longer if they hoped to be saved
This sounds like animal abuse. Speaking as someone who nearly drowned before it's not a pleasant experience even if you ultimately don't drown.
Ive almost drowned multiple times as im a terrible swimmer and was a moronic impulsive child. There are worse ways to go. At the end its actually kind of peaceful staring up at the sunlight as you know you are about to die. Maybe im just morbid though.
Calls to mind that roman dude who said something like 'it is pleasant to watch from the shore the struggles of another'
Yeah but instead of sunlight, their final moments were spent looking at some beady eyed German prick watching them drown
it is animal abuse but if you eat meat then you have no ground to complain about it on.
So what is your solution, dumb c**t? Effectively increase animal cruelty in the world? What, else, do you think the effect would be if everyone policed them at every instance they could speak up about something, just because they grew up eating meat (dailyish) and it has been totally normalized to them?
And for what? All because of some human, all too human, and autistic effort in keeping the argumentative high ground?
t. been vegetarian since I was 9.
~~*psychologists*~~ all deserve the rope
It isn't fair, all sciences (specially psychology) got a couple of decades of "totally not evil" fun except for mathematics
Mathcel anon how the frick would you even be evil in math.
Pretty sure Pythagoras had a number based cult that would take over governments.
He wouldnt eat beans because they looked like fetuses and he was afraid he would eat an old friend. He claimed to remember all his past lives too. Dude was wild for a thrice damned thracian
>He wouldnt eat beans because they looked like fetuses and he was afraid he would eat an old friend. He claimed to remember all his past lives too. Dude was wild for a thrice damned thracian
Sometimes I wonder if it wasn't better to live in the classical period where people basically knew nothing about anything and you could say shit like this and people would nod and go "hmm, yes, that's entirely possible" like it wasn't fricking bananas.
Id kill myself if i had to hear sophists argue about moronic shit. Id rather live in ancient persia tbh
Captcha mong0
>Id kill myself if i had to hear sophists argue about moronic shit
Only the good stuff survived history. Just look at that homie socrates. Tell me you wouldnt go insane listening to him ask 'why?' everytime you said something self evident48th2
Why would you go insane? Why would it bother you that something you believed is self evident is questioned?
>everytime you said something self evident
>hehe this equation is actually irrational hehe
Mathematics is an art not a science
>Mathematics is an art not a science
Both wrong AND correct
that's because the evil of mathematics is yet to be unveiled
I drowned a rat the other day. It was kind of saw seeing him swim around in circles with some air bubbles popping up every 20 seconds or so. But then I remembered it's a fricking rat, so frick em.
kind of sad*
In my uni, we put rats on hot metal plates and then tested how much drugs they need to stop feeling the pain of burning metal underneath them.
I bet some undergrads would have volunteered if they could pass the ethics committee
Name? Discipline?
Of course he was German
Wait, so shounen is real? You just gotta believe?
Rats are buttholes. Even cats don't care to attack them because they're nasty little motherfricks who bite back.
Rats and raccoons are based and can be trained. Ive had both as wild animal buddies before. The rat would ride around on my shoulder and literally thumb his nose at my dogs keke
okay Crispin
This just reminds me of the Plague Dogs film.
Just as fricked up, animated or no.
Rats are repulsive disgusting pests objectively, but even I've gotta say that's pretty fricked up to do to any living being. Krauts are truly subhuman holy frick.
>Richter first took a dozen rats, put them in jars half full of water and watched them drown.
And then he was arrested right?
Back in those days animals didn't have human rights.
What are you supposed to do with a rat caught in a live trap nowadays? Most of what I'm reading says to trap it in a fricking grocery bag and smack it against the wall.
But it in a glass of water and see how long it will swim
>smack it against the wall.
Lmao what is wrong with you Black person. You just leave them in the bag and they suffocate after a few minutes.
Id rather get a quick violent death than be suffocated.
I love this experiment. Not because I like animal cruelty but because its about the topic of hope.
Why did this have to be tested? We already have weekends which are basically the same thing.
What are you talking about?
Hope
>I believe in your cause
Cope
>I do not believe in your cause and you are delusional
This should have been done to ensure 6th Army's escape from Stalingrad cauldron.
Anyone who's ever had dealings with rats knows that what this researcher did is based. Frick em.
>anons absolutely seethe that a researcher uses rats to find out important psychological and bioligcal functions cause they feel more empathy for some pest bringing rats then they do other actual humans
Maybe start caring about the kidnapped children in the world instead of some random animal that killed more people then all wars in history combined.
>Curt Richiter
I hope in the next world the killed rats will perform such experiments on the professor.
>The fricker didn't spare them after that astonishing feat
>Germ
yup checks out
What I don't understand is why so many people are seething at the suffering of rats. Rats aren't equal to men and it's worthwhile and ethical to torture and kill millions of them if it benefits humanity, change my mind (you can't).
>some guy’s opinion
ok?
it's a correct opinion
Do you watch anime? I think you should give "Shiki" a try. I think it's super relevant to your way of thinking.
They're more like the opposite, hope is the belief that a good thing will happen, coping is generally accepting an inferior thing as positive. As an example for someone who wants to get married and have kids.
Hope: "I'm sure that I'll marry a cute girl and have a lot of kids."
Cope: "There's nothing wrong with marrying a single mother who got her tubes tied."
All animal torturers will burn in hell.