It varies depending on time and place. In the Late Roman Empire, it was the same appeal of any Mystery School: a fictive kinship, securing a PERSONAL good fate in the afterlife (non-Mystery cults basically were about collective salvation, not individual). In the Medieval period, it was just the only real option for anyone, and enforced by the arm of the State.
In the Great Awakenings in America, it ironically became similar to the early emphasis on personal salvation and relationship with the god of the cult (in this case, Christ).
Nowadays, it has the appeal of "rebelling" against liberalism/leftism and the modern secular rationalist world order, and of reclaiming the spiritual experience that has been long devalued and put aside.
If you're not called, it doesn't make a different. A person will already know why he matters otherwise. >No one can come to me unless he is drawn by the Father who sent me-John 6:44
I can't lead you anywhere further than what happened to me. I threw my whole life away and chased after Christ the minute I encountered him. He upheaved my entire life. I lost everything, and yet I rejoice. Even years later. I don't regret it one bit. He indeed appeals. But if you don't experience that yourself, what can I do? It breaks my heart that people hear about Christ and move on or are simply indifferent. Let alone hostile like some here. I've learned the hard way that it simply isn't their time.
I'm not sure what to believe. I'd always been told and did believe he was about love, but then I read one of his criticisms of the Pharisees was they weren't putting disobedient or unruly children to death.
Mark 7:6-13 >Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: ‘These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’ You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.” And he said to them: “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honour your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ But you say that if a man says to his father or mother: ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban’ (that is, a gift devoted to God), then you no longer let him do anything for his father or mother. Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
He accuses them of not honoring God's laws, specifically referencing honoring your parents and putting to death those who don't, and brings up an example of not honoring parents that the Pharisees allow.
Not him but it's Mark 7:9-11 >9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 11 But you say, ‘If a man says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban”—’ (that is, a gift to God)
Jesus said that all of the old law is to be regarded and it is in place until having an earth pass away. So the deuteromical law of putting children to death for being unruly is okay in Jesus's opinion. He doesn't seem to divert from it here.
Furthermore, here is the deuteromical law that Jesus said is still in place.
>Deuteronomy 21:18-21 >18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.
Not only does he references in Mark 7, But he says that all of the law is still in place. He supports all of it and demands that everyone adhere to it down to its last jot and tittle.
Matthew 5 -- >18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one [b]jot or one [c]tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
When you compare him to the other gods and prophets of his time, he didn't seem all that bad. Didn't demand people to sacrifice stuff, just believe and you will be saved.
Christianity as a whole was more based when they were the underdog hunted down by the Romans. All that "turn the other cheek" shit was just a tutorial on how to epicly troll dem Romans
Jesus had humble origins and a lot of his ministry was dedicated towards the lowest rungs of Israel's society. So when Christians went around and told the lowest members of israeli and Roman society that God loved and valued them and these people could even gain influence in the church hierarchy it had a strong appeal.
Everything that is light, is life, is love, is kind, is good, is pure, is worthy, is noble in the world IS God. Jesus is the physical manifestation of that, and that's what he came to tell us about.
You can pretend karma doesn't exist.
Good answer
CleftaSunder '24 in Appellate of Jesus
insightful
You guys are so retarded
Christian scripture says you can forgive sins but you cant erase the consecuences of those sins
And that you can never repay God all the stupid shit youve caused through your life
Sin = shitting yourself up and others in body mind and spirit
Why do retards always pretend they know what christianity is about
It varies depending on time and place. In the Late Roman Empire, it was the same appeal of any Mystery School: a fictive kinship, securing a PERSONAL good fate in the afterlife (non-Mystery cults basically were about collective salvation, not individual). In the Medieval period, it was just the only real option for anyone, and enforced by the arm of the State.
In the Great Awakenings in America, it ironically became similar to the early emphasis on personal salvation and relationship with the god of the cult (in this case, Christ).
Nowadays, it has the appeal of "rebelling" against liberalism/leftism and the modern secular rationalist world order, and of reclaiming the spiritual experience that has been long devalued and put aside.
If you're not called, it doesn't make a different. A person will already know why he matters otherwise.
>No one can come to me unless he is drawn by the Father who sent me-John 6:44
So much for explaining stuff to a fellow human
I can't lead you anywhere further than what happened to me. I threw my whole life away and chased after Christ the minute I encountered him. He upheaved my entire life. I lost everything, and yet I rejoice. Even years later. I don't regret it one bit. He indeed appeals. But if you don't experience that yourself, what can I do? It breaks my heart that people hear about Christ and move on or are simply indifferent. Let alone hostile like some here. I've learned the hard way that it simply isn't their time.
yeah it's a waste of time
I'm not sure what to believe. I'd always been told and did believe he was about love, but then I read one of his criticisms of the Pharisees was they weren't putting disobedient or unruly children to death.
Verse?
Mark 7:6-13
>Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: ‘These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’ You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.” And he said to them: “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honour your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ But you say that if a man says to his father or mother: ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban’ (that is, a gift devoted to God), then you no longer let him do anything for his father or mother. Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
That doesn’t really demonstrate what you said
He accuses them of not honoring God's laws, specifically referencing honoring your parents and putting to death those who don't, and brings up an example of not honoring parents that the Pharisees allow.
Not him but it's Mark 7:9-11
>9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 11 But you say, ‘If a man says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban”—’ (that is, a gift to God)
Jesus said that all of the old law is to be regarded and it is in place until having an earth pass away. So the deuteromical law of putting children to death for being unruly is okay in Jesus's opinion. He doesn't seem to divert from it here.
It's not death for unruliness it's death for incorrigibility.
It's death for being stubborn and rebellious.
Furthermore, here is the deuteromical law that Jesus said is still in place.
>Deuteronomy 21:18-21
>18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.
Not only does he references in Mark 7, But he says that all of the law is still in place. He supports all of it and demands that everyone adhere to it down to its last jot and tittle.
Matthew 5 --
>18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one [b]jot or one [c]tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
When you compare him to the other gods and prophets of his time, he didn't seem all that bad. Didn't demand people to sacrifice stuff, just believe and you will be saved.
Christianity as a whole was more based when they were the underdog hunted down by the Romans. All that "turn the other cheek" shit was just a tutorial on how to epicly troll dem Romans
cuck mindset, cuck religion, cuck followers
'ate christcucks simple as
Fair enough. Christianity teaches us to actively deny our animal side always. You can't kill ot have sex willy nilly
John the Baptist and his little cousin Jesus Christ were great authours, proven by their writings' popularity to this day.
Jesus had humble origins and a lot of his ministry was dedicated towards the lowest rungs of Israel's society. So when Christians went around and told the lowest members of israeli and Roman society that God loved and valued them and these people could even gain influence in the church hierarchy it had a strong appeal.
Realest guy I've ever met.
Christ is the universal example of an ethical standard, and one who is worthy of admiration.
His courage, compassion, loyalty and sacrifice are admirable.
Everything that is light, is life, is love, is kind, is good, is pure, is worthy, is noble in the world IS God. Jesus is the physical manifestation of that, and that's what he came to tell us about.
>Jesus is the physical manifestation of that, and that's what he came to tell us about
What is the point of knowing that?
If you don't believe in Jesus, Jesus will have to cut up a bitch, bitch.
>What’s the appeal of Jesus anyway?
The Appeal of Jesus failed. Court of Appeals denied His appeal.
Eternal Life, paradise for eternity in Heaven with God, Assured Salvation in the very Hand of God which cannot be taken back. Basically Mario Nocap.
Eternal life, reconciliation with the creator, obedience to God.
Unironically hedonism and lack of morals. You don't really have morality if you can just pray the guilt of any wrongdoings away.
You're not a Christian.
Correct. I think there are higher values than personal pleasure aka heaven.
Your strawman doesn't have anything to do with Christianity idiot
Seething. Remove the concept of heaven and see practically every christian drop their beliefs.
>Seething
Yes, you are.
>No argument
Logical fallacies do not require arguments in response, they need only be identified to be refuted.
Which you didn't do.
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