What would be a good religion to join if you agree with everything traditional Christianity says except you think monogamous homosexuals are alright?
What would be a good religion to join if you agree with everything traditional Christianity says except you think monogamous homosexuals are alright?
That's not how religion works.
That's just traditional polytheism.
You attend a liberal mainline Protestant denomination and tell yourself the changes will stop with the gays but it never does
I don’t like the sappy feel good stuff though. I want determined, serious, pious people, who accept monogamous homosexuals
I dont think monogamous homosexuals is good
Its closer to a mental disoder like people who want to fuck animals than it is to anything mentally healthy
Thank you for sharing your opinion, I do not agree.
Sure, so what religion has the moral standings of Christianity while accepting monogamous homosexuals? If you don’t know why respond?
Agreeing is irrelevant to the truth
Humility is a virtue
Humility: a modest or low view of one's own importance
You: Believing your opinion is so important you have to shove it where it is uninvited
Humility freedom from pride or arrogance
>OMG AN STRANGER GAVE ME HIS OPINION ON THE INTERNET IM LOSING MY MIND
Lol, Im just sharing something with you, ultimately it is up to you to learn or not
And I’m sharing with you that after consideration, I do not agree with your opinion
And I told you agreeing to something is not relevant to the truth
You could believe the world is a donut and the truth would still be the truth
Humility is to search for the truth as it is, not more not less
To not be arrogant and to do research to define the truth IS virtue of humility
I have considered your point of view, and I do not agree that you are speaking truthfully. My moral sense does not see monogamous homosexuals as disordered. Any more than I could see a mother caring for her child as disordered.
Well Ive actually studied psychology for a long long time
At first I didnt also think anything of homosexuality, however with research time analyzis and study it has become clear that its not something natural nor moral nor rational nor normal
Im just sharing this with you at the end of the day you must look for the truth yourself
Do not be afraid to question your previous beliefs
I have questioned my beliefs, and I have considered your point of view. I do not agree with it, and I do not find monogamous homosexuals to be immoral in any way.
Keep searching then nigga, we will never stop searching for the truth
However lies are everywhere
Thank you, I do sincerely hope that you may see the truth as well.
>Well Ive actually studied psychology for a long long time
>At first I didnt also think anything of homosexuality, however with research time analyzis and study it has become clear that its not something natural nor moral nor rational nor normal
>Im just sharing this with you at the end of the day you must look for the truth yourself
>Do not be afraid to question your previous beliefs
It's existed since ancient times in every society that has existed. Your standard for what is "normal" is stupid.
Determined, serious, pious people are going to actually follow the Bible intensely including the multiple parts in the Old and New Testament against homosexuality.
>I want determined, serious, pious people, who accept monogamous homosexuals
Then you don’t want Christianity.
I never said it has to be Christianity, just that I find many of its positions compelling
anyone serious about Christianity will be serious about the Bible. Honestly you just sound like a typical moralizing shitlib, why not just become a vegan or something?
it doesn’t make any sense to pick up an entire salvific framework (that you don’t believe in) when you really just want some sort of mystic cachet to your ethical preferences. Become a straight edge dweeb, a vegan, a homo-activist. Become some mix of the three!
I don’t think those things are comparable to a belief in God and wanting to act the way he wants you to act in good faith
I do believe there is a God, and that there is a way we ought to act to please him, I just don’t think monogamous homosexuals are displeasing to him
typical boomer Sunday
>monogamous homosexuals
Homosexuals are the result of hormonal/chemical disorders and formation during childhood/teen hormonal years
According to reason and morality monogamous homosexuals are not normal
>According to reason and morality monogamous homosexuals are not normal
Homosexuals are the result of hormonal/chemical disorders and formation during childhood/teen hormonal years
So yes according to reason and morality monogamous homosexuals are not normal
You can do your own research about this
>according to studies, JSTOR has revealed onto me the noble truth when I held aloft my mouse and clicked on a cherrypicked article that confirms everything I already believed in
Just do your own research
Not asking you to drink poison, just learn the truth lol
You dont need to be a bitch about it unless you want to
Research is trying to falsify what you believe to be true, not trying to confirm it. Every non-midwit knows this.
If you had even the slightest sense of intellectual integrity, you would try and find articles that demonstrate your proposition to be wrong. If you can't find any, you can be pretty sure whatyou believe in is solid. Unfortunately, intellectual fraudsters like you do the very opposite
>Research is trying to falsify what you believe to be true, not trying to confirm it
Then apply it
You massive midwit
Truth is that homosexuals are a result of chemicals imbalance and formation
You can do your own research again to falsify your belief that homosexuality is normal
>Research is trying to falsify what you believe to be true, not trying to confirm it
Ok when you say something like this to someone
You 100% have to apply it to yourself
You believe homosexuals are perfectly normal, and a non-anormality/disease/malformation in terms of psychology AND biological chemestry
Find actual research and find that it falsifies your beliefs of truth
If you dont genuinely do this then youre obvisouly a midwit
>You believe homosexuals are perfectly normal, and a non-anormality/disease/malformation in terms of psychology AND biological chemestry
I have yet to see anything that implies otherwise. There have been homosexuals around the globe, crossing cultural lines, we know about several species besides ours that engage in it, and all the 'diseases' associated with it are also found in heterosexuals. Can you tell me of other anormal human behavior that can survive for thousands of years, irrelevant of culture or even species?
>I have yet to see anything that implies otherwise
Because you havent searched for it you massive retard
The only thing youve done is let yourself be sponfed by mainstream academic agreeable "experts"
Any person above 120 IQ would know how and why you should do your own research
Cant be more clear than this, up to you
I don't need to you fucking homosexual, it has been around for tens of thousands of years and will probably continue to do so.
You sound like the fedora atheist you probably started your jesuslarp over
Basically any of them so long as you keep the homo stuff on the down low
the Bible doesn't mention lesbians at all
If Im being honest I deduce you believe homosexuality is fine because you watch too many netflix series
And youve unconsciously defined it as normal inside of your mind lol
I just cant with you people
No, netflix series are not the reason I do not see monogamous homosexuals as being immoral
Contemporary Marxism-Leninism
In the New Testament, marriage is between one man and one woman, no other romantic or sexual relationship is ever endorsed. Male on male and female on female sex are called unnatural (Romans 1:24-27) and male on male sex is included in a list of sins (1 Corinthians 6:9).
The only Christian groups who have gay marriages are liberal Protestants. You'll have to take them or leave them, other Christians see the Bible as unambiguous on this.
Anglicanism (basically freemasons but even more homosexuals)
Seems like they aren’t very pious
Depends where you live. North American Anglicans are 100% gay marriage-supporting. African Anglicans are pretty much all conservative. English Anglicans are in-between but moving towards gay marriage.
Kys and burn in hell fag lover
No and up to God
Too ambiguous to say. We need more information.
Do you believe apostolic succession is necessary to administer sacraments?
How many sacraments do you think exist?
What is the relationship between faith and works?
What is the role of the Pope?
Intercessory prayers, relics and icons: Are they acceptable or not?
Honestly I’m a pretty big brainlet so I’ve never seen a satisfying answer to those types of legalistic questions
If you're at this stage, I think it's better to study some basic Christian philosophy and understand what denomination you belong to.
The first questions to answer are:
1) Do you agree with the Niceno-Costantinopolitan Creed?
2) Do you believe in Chalcedonianism?
3) What's more important in a church: A strong apostolic succession to administer sacraments, or a strong adherence to theological truth, even if it means disregarding Apostolic Succession?
After you choose a denomination, see if there is a theologically liberal version of it.
Theologically conservative = No gays, No trans, no contraception, no abortion, no female priests
Theologically liberal = All those things accepted.
There are rarely middle ground denominations, so if you agree with some of these points but disagree on others, you'll have to take a compromise.
Frankly, the fact that there’s such an opaque debate between wildly different views on the scripture leads me to believe there is serious flaw in the truth of Christianity’s correctness, so it’s difficult for me to take either conservative or liberal Christianity seriously
However, the theological underpinnings of the thing strike me as exceptional, the City of God is inspiring, etc
>opaque
translation: you don't want to read old texts and would rather play video games
I just don’t think it’s worth my time, I am inclined to think that the conservative views of Christian legalism and homosexuality are more correct because they were followed for such a long time without being seriously challenged. Which means Christianity contradicts my basic morals.
At the very least, there is a very good chance that the most correct interpretation contradicts my morals, and the whole thing is exasperating to deal with.
Basically the conservatives seem morally repugnant to me on several counts, while the liberals strike me as coping with a foundation that just doesn’t work for their moral system, to my best knowledge this makes biblical Christianity a no-go for me.
>more correct because they were followed for such a long time without being seriously challenged
Do you know anything about the early history of christianity?
I don’t know much but I don’t think they were practicing homosexual monogamy
I dunno, maybe the fact that they rejected millenias of israeli dogmas should give you a clue.
It’s just odd. I don’t want to go to church and see a bunch of rainbows, wheres the dour monks singing gregorian chants?
In monasteries, but that's a very boring life (and way more unnatural than homosexuality).
Think. Why would a relationship that has not been intended by the lord be acceptable? It is ok for women to kiss each other on the cheeks. But more than that? It's called "the man" "of the house" not "i kissed a girl". Female and male homosexuality are impossible to be united with the christian faith.
Maybe Platonism, but you're unlikely to find a community still practising it outside of very niche occult circles.