They have like 2-5x the amount of nicotine in them depending on the brand compared to cigarettes. Increases the risk of throat cancer and makes your teeth go yellow a faster than cigarettes, but they are definitely a healthier alternative
Invest in tobacco seeds.
If they ban nicotine in cigarettes (the whole reason people smoke them) an underground market for "now with nicotine" cigarettes will undoubtably be born. Be there when it does.
10% increase in test is nothing, it's literally onions tier. not to mention that could be because people who have higher test are more likely to smoke, not the other way around. Of course a polcuck is incabaple of analysing a study in a critical way instead of just looking for something that proves they're right
Also injecting TRT level doses double-triple your test and would cost WAY less than cigs
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it’s weird. you can tell the smokers posting here have a masculine writing style, whereas the anti smokers like yourself have a very feminine writing style.
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that is indeed weird because I've been smoking for 10 years
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Strange. You must have extremely low test. A 10% increase of a low number is a low increase. Sad!
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Do you smoke a torch of freedom while having your morning Starbucks latte with onions? Kek.
>unveiled a plan
meaning: made up some complete bullshit to keep the progressives at bay that has no chance of passing but they can blame le evil elephants for it
How many people do cigarettes actually kill these dates? I would wager drug overdoses and being a fatass kills way more Americans on a regular basis. Honestly who gives a shit if people die at 65 from smoking when your country is full of fat 30 year old type 2 diabetics and 23 years old ODing on fentanyl?
>noooooo you cant smoke its bad!! >why yes you can eat all of the carcinogenic synethic chemical waste junk food and corn syrup soda.
Nicotine literally improves your brain function, some of the greatest most influential and successful men that ever lived in history chainsmoked tobacco.
The bear market stress made me succumb to nicotine again. It really is the shittiest drug in existence from a price/benefit/harm standpoint. It makes you feel good the first two weeks and after that you're hooked and you only use it to rid yourself of the nasty withdrawal symptoms
They are doing this because nicotine is an aromatase inhibitor, which means it prevents the conversion of testosterone into estrogen. They are trying to turn all men into women through forced HRT in the water and food supply, and nicotine gets in the way of that plan.
If youre being serious, get into contact with eastern europeans (very cheap western cigs) ask them to send u cartons of cigs to the US, for a fee, then distribute to americans at a large markup.
The government does a lot a of shit wrong, but trying to transition away from the allowing the marketing and sale of super addictive cancer-on-a-stick to something that delivers the fix to their drug addicted population in a much healthier way is not one of them
its actually worse. boiling nic hitting ur lungs is far more dangerous. Im willing to be these are cheaper to make then actual cigs and its big tobacoo shitting it down
Nicotine is one of the main ingredients that make cigarettes addicting.
Yes, but being addicting, alone, isn't enough to make something bad for you. Nicotine is relatively harmless on its own. Similar to coffee. Sure, caffeine is addictive, but its effects have little negative or longterm physiological or psychological consequences. Get rid of the actual harmful shit in cigs, not the nicotine.
They have like 2-5x the amount of nicotine in them depending on the brand compared to cigarettes. Increases the risk of throat cancer and makes your teeth go yellow a faster than cigarettes, but they are definitely a healthier alternative
that's why I quit but I felt better overall when I was using nicotine products. mentally sharper, more at peace with the world, more motivated.
actually this is correct and part of why nicotine is associated with hair loss. By blocking conversion of Testosterone into estrogen, the body's DHT levels increase. People used to think that it was just cigarettes that caused thinning hair in both men and women--- presumably due to oxidative stress from the smoke--- but it turns out vapes can cause it too by disrupting your HPTA axis and raising DHT
I heard cigarette companies mess with the nicotine to make it freebase so it hits harder and is more addicting,
Ive heard it compared to the difference between crack and cocaine
There's a great movie with Al Pacino and Russell Crowe called The Insider that depicts the real life story of a chief scientist who went public and revealed the inner workings of Big Tobacco and how they did everything in their power to make cigarettes as addictive as they possibly could while concealing it from the public. This was back when everybody thought cigarettes were harmless. I know it sounds boring, but the movie will keep you on edge throughout
>I heard cigarette companies mess with the nicotine to make it freebase so it hits harder and is more addicting
Not sure it was ever done for cigs. But is was basically what they did for vapes. It's why JUUL is so much more addictive than cigarettes.
im positive companies like Marlboro do it, thats why theres a serious difference in feeling between smoking a marb and an american spirit.
Marb is like crack, really gets the dopamine rushing
Ain't this shit funny. There's no consensus nicotine is harmful to you, though it's addictive, but addictive shit is stuff you brain think is important or becomes chemically dependent on it and nic addiction definitely doesn't come from the latter. Cigarettes are harmful due to the organic matter burning contents, you'll fuck yourself up with weed or any other thing that you have to burn and send the contents to your lungs.
I got into nicotine as a nootropic. There are studies showing that nicotine significantly thwarts or protects you from dementia/Alzheimer and the like. And there are no known bad side effects if you use a clean carry method, like nic patches, nic gum, decent vapes and whatnot.
Well I actually wish they made the flavors really mild, most of the juice is sweet as fuck and unnecessary. Ive tried plain pg/vg in the past but thats not much better.
But most juice flavors are overkill. A few years ago some n-words were litlerally putting green food coloring in the juice, and it would completely fuck up the coils.
I think stuff like that shouldnt be done
>What will be the financial implications of the death of the cigarette industry? How can I profit off this?
zoomers get popcorn lung from vaping chinese nicotine gutter oils. invest in rehabilitation and funeral service industry
Stash cigarettes and then sell them in the black market at a huge margin.
Then with the profits build a mafia.
Americ*ns didn't learn their lesson from the Al Capone years.
Cigarettes are deleterious to your health. I actually agree with President Biden's stance here.
Why are so many people here slaves to cigarettes? It's no different than getting addicted to opium. The same opium that the British Empire imported into China to weaken the population into servitude? If you can break free of your mindless addiction, not only will it be better for your health and lungs, it will fortify your spirit and strength of character. You can do it!
I suppose the irony is that if you're going to use legal force to play nanny state for people's health then why not focus on seed oils and corn syrup? Oh right, we subsidize them despite our obesity and heart disease epidemic. There is no epidemic of smoking in the west any more. If I was in charge I'd legalize everything, subsidize nothing, and offer zero socialized health care benefits. Consume what you want and leave everyone else alone- you don't owe them your health and they don't owe you their healthcare.
>don’t look at corn syrup or seed oils >don’t look at additives >don’t look at sodas >don’t look at alcohol >shill extremely addictive opioids to fucke up people because docs are greedy crooks and the alphabet agencies need funding somehow >do nothing about the ever increasing obesity issues plaguing both this country and the planet
And so on. If you think the government either remotely cares for your wellbeing or should dictate what is and isn’t available then you’re a clown. Smoking has been on a downward trend across the entire western world for half a century, this is completely unnecessary and probably just a quick “gotcha” type move to get people to hate the dementia ridden geriatric in office a little less.
The first government that banned smoking in many places was the Nazis. They knew back in the 1930s that even second-hand smoking causes cancer, but then the garden gnomemericans took over and memoryholed that information for the next 50 years.
Also sometimes the government just bans stuff because it's actually bad not because it's a big conspiracy. Like asbestos and leaded petrol aren't actually that great.
>yeah dude dont smoke tobacco thats bad.. >meth on the other hand? Now THATS a fashy drug! We need an industrial supply of that! >send it to every soldier!! Lets fucking tweak and win some wars boys
Lmao the downfall of hitler and germany losing ww2 was directly tied to his meth use. Towards the end of the war he was literally a delusional schizo tweaker with tons of health problems and meth induced Parkinson's.
Much of the modern pharmaceuticual company globohomo came directly from germany, they made so much oxycodone, heroin, speed, meth, cocaine etc
But noooooo not muh natural dried plant leaves that allegedly take 70 years to kill you
Basically it’s not as bad as we’re lead to believe, key being in moderation. Smoking one cig a day in an otherwise healthy lifestyle will only raise your test
I haven't smoked a cigarette in almost a decade. I quit with the help of e-cigs and vapes. Goddamn do I miss having on with my morning coffee or on a cold night out drinking. FUCK
I hadn't had a sober cig in like a year and knew I had a long drive with traffic on the way after a mega stressful day. Bought a pack of cigs and that first drag on the first cig with the window open hit the spot like you wouldn't believe.
>What will be the financial implications of the death of the cigarette industry? How can I profit off this?
It's really not hard to grow your own tobacco. It literally grows in almost any soil so long as it has plenty of sun and water. Are they going to make that illegal while legalizing weed? I guess I wouldn't put it past them.
with how aggressive anti smoking/vaping is nowadays, I don't see why this is a bad thing. It's just doing what is the inevitable sooner rather than later
Vaping isn't bad at all. There's just a massive, pre existing anti tobacco lobby that's going to call any kind of nicotine product the devil even though the real issue was burning tar and inhaling that into your lungs, not nicotine, which is just about side by side with caffeine as far as potency.
The implications are that poors will dump less money into cancer sticks which cause a health care burden on society. Cigarettes are degenerate as fuck and a pure garden gnome invention.
Why the FUCK did they ban Juul as if the problem isn’t the chink knock off disposables with 5000 different flavors? Let me morning coffee and juul in peace you homosexuals
>muh children
Is always the response you get as if we're expected to believe they care about kids while they peddle tranny pills to 10 year olds and poison everyone with their abominable food.
I am seething right now. Nicotine is the only thing that makes wagecucking bearable. What the fuck is wrong with these liberal homosexuals. Why not ban specific brands of alcohol? Why not ban specific brands of fast food due to “targeting youth”. It’s sad that only the most incompetent people end up in government and the smart people end up in the private sector.
I feel you bro, at this point they are basically just pushing us to see how far they can go as a form of social engineering before the general populace snaps and has enough or they keep getting away with it until it's too late. Pretty much every ounce of autonomy would need to be banned based on their flimsy definitions of addictive and harmful. Soda, fast food, video games, candy, internet, and so on.
Juul pods is a huge scam.
5 FIVE dollars for a little pod that has 1 ONE fucking ml of juice.
My zoomer bro was going totally broke back when he was doing that
bro all those base ingredients come from china, china is the largest supplier of salt nic, OG, vg, the plastic coils and the pods are made in china
Still cheaper than cigarettes, but yeah, I prefer my Caliburn
I dont think its much cheaper, those pods last 1 or 2 days, and the problem with vapes is you hit it way more often then cigarettes. Its 1 ml, the old vape tanks held 15 ml and you could go through that in a day.
Im an OG vaper since the days of mechanical mods where you build your own coils and shit.
Nowadays i only vape if i got out drinking or something, I use those zyn pouches now
Juul's selling point was that they had about a pack of cigarettes worth of nicotine per pod, so going through one in a day is basically being a pack a day smoker, which is definitely more expensive than juul
why do the garden gnomes HATE it when goyim smoke tobacco?
is it because tobacco is an unpatentable plant and they don't make any money off smokers that aren't trying to quit with patented ~~*tobacco cessation therapy*~~?
FACT: nobody can name a single person, with proof, that ever died from second hand tobacco smoke
FACT: as smoking rates go down, lung cancer goes up
FACT: high smoking countries like japan & greece have lower lung cancer rates
FACT: when smoking was more common in the USA, men were less likely to be homosexuals and support globohomo shit
FACT: no randomized controlled trial or proper experiment ever showed smoking to reduce lifespan or increase cancer risk. in animal RCTs, the smokers lived longer
FACT: tobacco smoking prevents alzheimers so you don't become retarded as you age
FACT: there were people who lived longer than anyone you have ever met that were smokers
Have you heard of that study on coal miners? Basically a significantly larger amount of non smoking miners had way more lung problems then the smokers.
The fact is native americans thought tobacco was beneficial, they had a far better understanding of all plants since they were never removed from nature
There was a french woman who lived up to 122 years, she was a smoker up until she was 117 years old, usually one cigarrette after every meal. She also drank wine.
Hopefully no godamn 99 cent crap chemicals but that seems to be where we're headed. fucking disgusting. Imagine spending any money not DCAing into HBAR because of the HBF. quit this shit.
did you think of all the place who sell tobacco products, gas stations, supermarkets, here there are shops which have magazines,newspapers/tobacco products.
I would really like to know big a part of the complete revenue the selling of tobacco products is for these.
and yeah I know they are bad from the health perspective.
did you look at the packages in the last time? ...
I bought five cartons of Newports before I left for deployment and I more than tripled my money. Looks like I'm about to do that again except I may go with 500 cartons this time.
Probably nothing because the tobacco companies own their real estate, are in bed with big pharma, and are primed to control the marijuana industry. Also the plan to remove nicotine is a trap to remove ecigs and force people back onto regular cigs.
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invest in these
god damn snus gave me a killer nicotine buzz without nearly as much nausea as I got from cigarettes. I miss that shit, felt healthy.
They have like 2-5x the amount of nicotine in them depending on the brand compared to cigarettes. Increases the risk of throat cancer and makes your teeth go yellow a faster than cigarettes, but they are definitely a healthier alternative
> Increases the risk of throat cancer and makes your teeth go yellow
gnomish lies. not only that, but you can get tobaccoless nicotine pouches now.
>throat cancer
post source for this bullshit claim.
Cigarettes SHOULD die. Fucking disgusting.
At least with this shit you're not killing everyone around you polluting nature or making kids retarded. Don't expect to have teeth beyond 40 though.
>Don't expect to have teeth beyond 40 though.
My dad has chewed since he was kid (loose leaf/dip, not t bags)
Still has his teeth
you get more harmful chemicals standing next to a car's exhaust than second hand smoke you homosexual
Invest in tobacco seeds.
If they ban nicotine in cigarettes (the whole reason people smoke them) an underground market for "now with nicotine" cigarettes will undoubtably be born. Be there when it does.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/940187706/virginia-tobacco-organic-seeds?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_all&utm_custom1=_k_33bd8f08b9e616d09cb8edbb1fa3a2a4_k_&utm_content=bing_319339185_1304020917004184_81501327774781_pla-4585100928622219:pla-4585100928622219_m__940187706&utm_custom2=319339185&msclkid=33bd8f08b9e616d09cb8edbb1fa3a2a4
All you got to do is grow and dry the tobacco, beyond that people can roll their own. Sell it by the bag like they do with another notable plant.
Those bastards better not take nicotine away from me
Loser
Homo
junkie
Shut up you homosexual
probably means nicotine has health benefits they don’t want you to benefit from.
i’ll just buy cigs on the black market. i’m happy to not pay taxes on them.
It does, it prevents covid. Most cigarette smokers did not get covid.
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read the studies, and totally agree. think this has something to do with it also.
10% increase in test is nothing, it's literally onions tier. not to mention that could be because people who have higher test are more likely to smoke, not the other way around. Of course a polcuck is incabaple of analysing a study in a critical way instead of just looking for something that proves they're right
Also injecting TRT level doses double-triple your test and would cost WAY less than cigs
it’s weird. you can tell the smokers posting here have a masculine writing style, whereas the anti smokers like yourself have a very feminine writing style.
that is indeed weird because I've been smoking for 10 years
Strange. You must have extremely low test. A 10% increase of a low number is a low increase. Sad!
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Do you smoke a torch of freedom while having your morning Starbucks latte with onions? Kek.
This is worse than the holocaust.
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not having a theatre, swimming pool and football fields is worse than the holocaust
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ok chud
I look like that.
Why do all subversive garden gnomes look the same. They literally looked the same and had the same s-o-y face 100 years ago as they do know. Kek.
anthony fantano?
Anything is worse than something that never happened
Exactly
>tfw no more morning coffee and juul
aren’t there more important things for them to focus on
A juul is not a cigarette dipshit
it’s an electronic cigarette
Did Biden say anything about electronic cigarettes?
100% banning them
Juuls are getting banned as soon as today. But Chinese knockoff vapes full of actual poison will remain legal.
Yeah I don’t want to smoke those shitty things, I’m going to cigs I guess
Take the hand roll pill. A Bugler pack is $5
>Yeah I don’t want to smoke those shitty things, I’m going to cigs I guess
That's ballgame, fellas.
Juul is also being banned
Dipshit
LAND OF THE FREE
>unveiled a plan
meaning: made up some complete bullshit to keep the progressives at bay that has no chance of passing but they can blame le evil elephants for it
>How can I profit off this?
Sell cigarettes.
they'll remove all of the nicotine from cigarettes and add more carcinogenic chemicals to speed up the death of their consoomers
How many people do cigarettes actually kill these dates? I would wager drug overdoses and being a fatass kills way more Americans on a regular basis. Honestly who gives a shit if people die at 65 from smoking when your country is full of fat 30 year old type 2 diabetics and 23 years old ODing on fentanyl?
>noooooo you cant smoke its bad!!
>why yes you can eat all of the carcinogenic synethic chemical waste junk food and corn syrup soda.
Nicotine literally improves your brain function, some of the greatest most influential and successful men that ever lived in history chainsmoked tobacco.
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The bear market stress made me succumb to nicotine again. It really is the shittiest drug in existence from a price/benefit/harm standpoint. It makes you feel good the first two weeks and after that you're hooked and you only use it to rid yourself of the nasty withdrawal symptoms
Truth. I’ve been off it for almost 3 years now
America is a giant shithole nanny state lmfao
They are doing this because nicotine is an aromatase inhibitor, which means it prevents the conversion of testosterone into estrogen. They are trying to turn all men into women through forced HRT in the water and food supply, and nicotine gets in the way of that plan.
Jokes on them. I have a dhitload of arimistane lmao
If youre being serious, get into contact with eastern europeans (very cheap western cigs) ask them to send u cartons of cigs to the US, for a fee, then distribute to americans at a large markup.
how do you plan to get those cartons through customs
Citizens are allowed to import a certain number for "personal use" duty free. It's measured in cartons
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one of those is like 10€
>Smoking golds
Disgusting
Look into Moldovan boges, ordered them in college a couple times. They were horrible, but also like $1.50 a pack
You will smoke the weed
The weed industry will genetically modify and lace your weed
You will be complacent
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you WILL smoke the vuse
The government does a lot a of shit wrong, but trying to transition away from the allowing the marketing and sale of super addictive cancer-on-a-stick to something that delivers the fix to their drug addicted population in a much healthier way is not one of them
its actually worse. boiling nic hitting ur lungs is far more dangerous. Im willing to be these are cheaper to make then actual cigs and its big tobacoo shitting it down
What proof do you have? None.
>Remove nicotine
>Keep all the literal 1000s of cancer causing substances that provide 0 benefit to the user in the cigarettes still
???
Why not do the opposite?
Because of nicotine addiction
Yes, but being addicting, alone, isn't enough to make something bad for you. Nicotine is relatively harmless on its own. Similar to coffee. Sure, caffeine is addictive, but its effects have little negative or longterm physiological or psychological consequences. Get rid of the actual harmful shit in cigs, not the nicotine.
Nicotine has some natural inhibitors to Covid and stops testosterone converting to estrogen… no wonder why lol
Did you learn that from /misc/'s doctors?
Cigarette interact with ace2 receptors and is an aromatase inhibitor
Did you learn it from the guy you just replied to? Be honest.
kek, nice one
back to your discord server
that's why I quit but I felt better overall when I was using nicotine products. mentally sharper, more at peace with the world, more motivated.
actually this is correct and part of why nicotine is associated with hair loss. By blocking conversion of Testosterone into estrogen, the body's DHT levels increase. People used to think that it was just cigarettes that caused thinning hair in both men and women--- presumably due to oxidative stress from the smoke--- but it turns out vapes can cause it too by disrupting your HPTA axis and raising DHT
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3711333/ kys tranny
Get shredded, n-word
(I don’t hate blacks)
>(I don’t hate blacks)
I do
If they come after Benadryl next, this is 100% the reason why.
Nicotine is one of the main ingredients that make cigarettes addicting.
I heard cigarette companies mess with the nicotine to make it freebase so it hits harder and is more addicting,
Ive heard it compared to the difference between crack and cocaine
There's a great movie with Al Pacino and Russell Crowe called The Insider that depicts the real life story of a chief scientist who went public and revealed the inner workings of Big Tobacco and how they did everything in their power to make cigarettes as addictive as they possibly could while concealing it from the public. This was back when everybody thought cigarettes were harmless. I know it sounds boring, but the movie will keep you on edge throughout
>I heard cigarette companies mess with the nicotine to make it freebase so it hits harder and is more addicting
Not sure it was ever done for cigs. But is was basically what they did for vapes. It's why JUUL is so much more addictive than cigarettes.
im positive companies like Marlboro do it, thats why theres a serious difference in feeling between smoking a marb and an american spirit.
Marb is like crack, really gets the dopamine rushing
Nicotine by itself has never been shown to be addictive neither in human nor animal studies
n-word what.
I get withdrawals when my body runs low on nicotine. Its literally the main psychoactive ingredient
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>thinks establishment politicians work logically and actually care about the citizens
lol.
They will remove the nicotine by replacing it with something cancerous.
doesn't matter, the chinese love to inhale smoke, even when they already do it for free
The next "insurrection" will be thousands of wrinkled, sallow-skinned old ladies going through nicotine withdrawal. And I can't wait to see it.
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>No, you can't just make me not poison myself!!!!!!!!!
Black folx are the main victims of this white supremacist campaign by Joe "bro" Biden
>DADDY GOVERNMENT SAVE ME FROM MYSELF
>I NEED YOU DADDY REGULATE ME PLEASE
>GOVERNMENT PLEASE TREAT ME LIKE THE RETARDED TAX GOY I AM
>cigarettes get less nicotine
>you need to smoke more for your hit
>ban vapes
the eternal garden gnome strikes again
Ain't this shit funny. There's no consensus nicotine is harmful to you, though it's addictive, but addictive shit is stuff you brain think is important or becomes chemically dependent on it and nic addiction definitely doesn't come from the latter. Cigarettes are harmful due to the organic matter burning contents, you'll fuck yourself up with weed or any other thing that you have to burn and send the contents to your lungs.
I got into nicotine as a nootropic. There are studies showing that nicotine significantly thwarts or protects you from dementia/Alzheimer and the like. And there are no known bad side effects if you use a clean carry method, like nic patches, nic gum, decent vapes and whatnot.
vaping helped me lose a lot of weight because I vape shit that tastes like cakes and sweet pies. I never crave sugar at all.
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>I vape shit that tastes like cakes and sweet pies
Kek.
Well I actually wish they made the flavors really mild, most of the juice is sweet as fuck and unnecessary. Ive tried plain pg/vg in the past but thats not much better.
But most juice flavors are overkill. A few years ago some n-words were litlerally putting green food coloring in the juice, and it would completely fuck up the coils.
I think stuff like that shouldnt be done
kek. I agree that sounds incredibly basedboyish. still lost 25 kg of fat over the last 6 months
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Today OP learned: US Tobacco companies already moved their primary business to developing nations decades ago, where most of the money is made
Biden is a retard. Nicotine is not dangerous. Smoking is dangerous.
Bros they just banned all flavored vapes in my state. What is with these commie homosexuals
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>Hello can I get the retard stay poor department?
I am going all in on cig companies now. People will just buy even more cigs to get their fix.
now smokers will need to smoke 3x the amount of cigs to get the same high
tax revenue going to jump up 3x
fucking genius
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>tfw pipes make a comeback
>tfw budget cigars enter a golden age
My cock is ready.
I'm ahead of the curve, been piping for years.
>bought $10k of Altria at 48
Lmao @my life. Guess I'll average down, they're not going anywhere.
>What will be the financial implications of the death of the cigarette industry? How can I profit off this?
zoomers get popcorn lung from vaping chinese nicotine gutter oils. invest in rehabilitation and funeral service industry
Stash cigarettes and then sell them in the black market at a huge margin.
Then with the profits build a mafia.
Americ*ns didn't learn their lesson from the Al Capone years.
based uncle Joe
long weed
Cigarettes are deleterious to your health. I actually agree with President Biden's stance here.
Why are so many people here slaves to cigarettes? It's no different than getting addicted to opium. The same opium that the British Empire imported into China to weaken the population into servitude? If you can break free of your mindless addiction, not only will it be better for your health and lungs, it will fortify your spirit and strength of character. You can do it!
shut up nerd
I suppose the irony is that if you're going to use legal force to play nanny state for people's health then why not focus on seed oils and corn syrup? Oh right, we subsidize them despite our obesity and heart disease epidemic. There is no epidemic of smoking in the west any more. If I was in charge I'd legalize everything, subsidize nothing, and offer zero socialized health care benefits. Consume what you want and leave everyone else alone- you don't owe them your health and they don't owe you their healthcare.
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This bro just compaed cigarettes to opium
>don’t look at corn syrup or seed oils
>don’t look at additives
>don’t look at sodas
>don’t look at alcohol
>shill extremely addictive opioids to fucke up people because docs are greedy crooks and the alphabet agencies need funding somehow
>do nothing about the ever increasing obesity issues plaguing both this country and the planet
And so on. If you think the government either remotely cares for your wellbeing or should dictate what is and isn’t available then you’re a clown. Smoking has been on a downward trend across the entire western world for half a century, this is completely unnecessary and probably just a quick “gotcha” type move to get people to hate the dementia ridden geriatric in office a little less.
I unironically want legal opium.. My body my choice bigot.
Im not trying to ban you from driving cars because thats dangerous.
We should ban sugar and corn syrup next. Teach those fatties a lesson.
>$95bn in tobacco lost
>$300bn in Medical Bills saved
more like
>$95bn in tobacco lost
>$300bn in Medical Bills lost
How are they getting the nicotine out of the tobacco?
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oh thats why my MO is 10% down. just bought more. nobody will stop my money printer
They’re trying to phase out cigs and have everyone vaping chemicals out of plastic made in China
I miss being able to get a pack of camels for 2 bucks in SEA
redpill me on smoking pls. the fact that ~~*they*~~ want it banned makes the whole thing look very sus
They want their cattle to be living longer and paying taxes not dying of lung cancer
nice try glowie, but 85% of first-world took the science juice so that's definitely not it
The first government that banned smoking in many places was the Nazis. They knew back in the 1930s that even second-hand smoking causes cancer, but then the garden gnomemericans took over and memoryholed that information for the next 50 years.
Also sometimes the government just bans stuff because it's actually bad not because it's a big conspiracy. Like asbestos and leaded petrol aren't actually that great.
>The first government that banned smoking in many places was the Nazis
why did they do it? and why are they doing it now?
Because it's the red man's poison.
>yeah dude dont smoke tobacco thats bad..
>meth on the other hand? Now THATS a fashy drug! We need an industrial supply of that!
>send it to every soldier!! Lets fucking tweak and win some wars boys
Lmao the downfall of hitler and germany losing ww2 was directly tied to his meth use. Towards the end of the war he was literally a delusional schizo tweaker with tons of health problems and meth induced Parkinson's.
Much of the modern pharmaceuticual company globohomo came directly from germany, they made so much oxycodone, heroin, speed, meth, cocaine etc
But noooooo not muh natural dried plant leaves that allegedly take 70 years to kill you
Nicotine literally raises your IQ, thats all you need to know.
The entire modern world was built on the foundation of tobacco and coffee
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24457405/
Basically it’s not as bad as we’re lead to believe, key being in moderation. Smoking one cig a day in an otherwise healthy lifestyle will only raise your test
I am unironically waiting for nicotine free pipe tobacco.
Love smoking a pipe, hate nicotine
>just smoke crack
No.
This will not come to pass, why did this homosexual OP even post this thread
This law wouldn't apply to tribal land, right? So I could still drive out to the rez and get cartons of regular cigarettes?
Nicotine is more innocuous than most of the drugs lefties peddle as needing legalization, including weed.
Wasnt this administration literally LITERALLY handing out crack pipes a few months ago
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>mixes you a 100ml bottle of 10mg 70% vg 30% pg pineapple strawberry nic juice
that'll be $100
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>what should I invest in?
gee lemme think
>only ships to a commercial address
as in the physical street address to your local post office with your box number on the second line?
I haven't smoked a cigarette in almost a decade. I quit with the help of e-cigs and vapes. Goddamn do I miss having on with my morning coffee or on a cold night out drinking. FUCK
I hadn't had a sober cig in like a year and knew I had a long drive with traffic on the way after a mega stressful day. Bought a pack of cigs and that first drag on the first cig with the window open hit the spot like you wouldn't believe.
Congrats on the 10 years man
Smoking while drinking is god tier.
Smoking on opiates is also great
I’m not a fan of this in any way, but this doesn’t impact cigars right? I smoke cigars daily. Also pipe tobacco.
This isn’t a fake article right?
>How can I profit off this?
Illegally imports. Make submarines carrying cigarettes from South America.
Just grow ur own tobacco
>Prompt people to quit smoking
You mean roll their own or switch to weed?
Loose tobacco in a pipe is a WAY nicer experience anyways.
WEED LMAO XD
>What will be the financial implications of the death of the cigarette industry? How can I profit off this?
It's really not hard to grow your own tobacco. It literally grows in almost any soil so long as it has plenty of sun and water. Are they going to make that illegal while legalizing weed? I guess I wouldn't put it past them.
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>Are they going to make that illegal while legalizing weed?
Obviously, You can't even collect rainwater without it being illegal
Not to mention most people are fucking urbanite scum fucks who lives 10 people to an apartment
Try growing poppy seeds, see how fast you get raided
with how aggressive anti smoking/vaping is nowadays, I don't see why this is a bad thing. It's just doing what is the inevitable sooner rather than later
Vaping isn't bad at all. There's just a massive, pre existing anti tobacco lobby that's going to call any kind of nicotine product the devil even though the real issue was burning tar and inhaling that into your lungs, not nicotine, which is just about side by side with caffeine as far as potency.
The implications are that poors will dump less money into cancer sticks which cause a health care burden on society. Cigarettes are degenerate as fuck and a pure garden gnome invention.
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>Elites/Government care about the health of poor people
Are you fucking retarded?
> googles how to make nicotine
turns out it doesn’t look too difficult
1: short american tobacco or whatever the fuck it's called
2: buy tobacco plant (seeds) and sell your own sigarettes
If Biden smoked he wouldn't currently have dementia and be a literal retard. Smoking is good for you.
why doesn't drumpf smoke?
He's a teetotaler. Lost his brother to alcoholism, now rejects all drugs.
Correct! by now he'd be dead!
Why the FUCK did they ban Juul as if the problem isn’t the chink knock off disposables with 5000 different flavors? Let me morning coffee and juul in peace you homosexuals
>muh children
Is always the response you get as if we're expected to believe they care about kids while they peddle tranny pills to 10 year olds and poison everyone with their abominable food.
I am seething right now. Nicotine is the only thing that makes wagecucking bearable. What the fuck is wrong with these liberal homosexuals. Why not ban specific brands of alcohol? Why not ban specific brands of fast food due to “targeting youth”. It’s sad that only the most incompetent people end up in government and the smart people end up in the private sector.
I feel you bro, at this point they are basically just pushing us to see how far they can go as a form of social engineering before the general populace snaps and has enough or they keep getting away with it until it's too late. Pretty much every ounce of autonomy would need to be banned based on their flimsy definitions of addictive and harmful. Soda, fast food, video games, candy, internet, and so on.
Juul pods is a huge scam.
5 FIVE dollars for a little pod that has 1 ONE fucking ml of juice.
My zoomer bro was going totally broke back when he was doing that
Still cheaper than cigarettes, but yeah, I prefer my Caliburn
I like knowing that what I smoke was created in a professional lab with no contaminants and not in some sweatshop in China.
bro all those base ingredients come from china, china is the largest supplier of salt nic, OG, vg, the plastic coils and the pods are made in china
I dont think its much cheaper, those pods last 1 or 2 days, and the problem with vapes is you hit it way more often then cigarettes. Its 1 ml, the old vape tanks held 15 ml and you could go through that in a day.
Im an OG vaper since the days of mechanical mods where you build your own coils and shit.
Nowadays i only vape if i got out drinking or something, I use those zyn pouches now
Juul's selling point was that they had about a pack of cigarettes worth of nicotine per pod, so going through one in a day is basically being a pack a day smoker, which is definitely more expensive than juul
The cartridges are made state side , the device is made in China. Literally stating misinformation as facts
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why do the garden gnomes HATE it when goyim smoke tobacco?
is it because tobacco is an unpatentable plant and they don't make any money off smokers that aren't trying to quit with patented ~~*tobacco cessation therapy*~~?
FACT: nobody can name a single person, with proof, that ever died from second hand tobacco smoke
FACT: as smoking rates go down, lung cancer goes up
FACT: high smoking countries like japan & greece have lower lung cancer rates
FACT: when smoking was more common in the USA, men were less likely to be homosexuals and support globohomo shit
FACT: no randomized controlled trial or proper experiment ever showed smoking to reduce lifespan or increase cancer risk. in animal RCTs, the smokers lived longer
FACT: tobacco smoking prevents alzheimers so you don't become retarded as you age
FACT: there were people who lived longer than anyone you have ever met that were smokers
Based fact checker.
Have you heard of that study on coal miners? Basically a significantly larger amount of non smoking miners had way more lung problems then the smokers.
The fact is native americans thought tobacco was beneficial, they had a far better understanding of all plants since they were never removed from nature
link?
There was a french woman who lived up to 122 years, she was a smoker up until she was 117 years old, usually one cigarrette after every meal. She also drank wine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment
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>restricting nicotine in cigs
>banning vapes
>creating Adderall shortages
Why is the US government actively sabotaging productivity?
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kek, complete garden gnomery, you will have to chain smoke 2 packs to get the nicotine buzz you want from 1 cigarette
Hopefully no godamn 99 cent crap chemicals but that seems to be where we're headed. fucking disgusting. Imagine spending any money not DCAing into HBAR because of the HBF. quit this shit.
why are ~~*they*~~ against nicotine?
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>most
>almost all
>pick one
did you think of all the place who sell tobacco products, gas stations, supermarkets, here there are shops which have magazines,newspapers/tobacco products.
I would really like to know big a part of the complete revenue the selling of tobacco products is for these.
and yeah I know they are bad from the health perspective.
did you look at the packages in the last time? ...
This is true, those shops main income is literally cigarettes, 2nd place alcohol
I bought five cartons of Newports before I left for deployment and I more than tripled my money. Looks like I'm about to do that again except I may go with 500 cartons this time.
That's so fucking stupid. It blows my mind that anyone could ever vote for those control freak imbeciles.
cigarettes' LE BAD!!!
me drunk driving and drinking GOOD!
Probably nothing because the tobacco companies own their real estate, are in bed with big pharma, and are primed to control the marijuana industry. Also the plan to remove nicotine is a trap to remove ecigs and force people back onto regular cigs.
>tfw Americans are too unhealthy for freedom
How do I cope with this feel?