What were the Spanish doing before the Reconquista and colonisation? And how come they just chimped out with such advances after fucking 800 years (nearly a millennia) of foreign rule? Like, when Russia was conquered by Mongols for just 300 years, it needed 300 years more after the liberation to cope with the damage Mongols had done.
The reconquista didn't happen in one stroke. For the first 300 years the small basque and asturians kingdoms tried to survive from Moorish and Frankish aggressors, they they gradually grew and became stronger enough to fight them. The turning point was Alfonso VI rule and El Cid campaigns.
And they didn't wait colonization to do this, for example the kingdom of Aragon was the most powerful Mediterranean country during the late middle ages.
>Frankish
I heard the Southwestern French fiefs were more like something one would think is Spanish than like their neighbors from the Northeastern France, how true is it?
>they they gradually grew and became stronger
How?
>the most powerful Mediterranean country
And how influential inside Europe were those all?
>how true is it?
None at all, southern France and Spain were aq different as Italy was
>How
Took advantage of the infighting among muslims to expand
>how influential
Influential enough to beat the french and get asked for help by the Byzantine emperor
>southern France and Spain were aq different as Italy was
In what way? They have, like, absolutely the same vibe in culture.
Southern French were mostly Bogomilist, they werent like us at all
Were they?
Yes that's why the northenr french genocided them with the support of the Spaniard Saint Dominic
They were called Cathars.
Bogomils were from Bulgaria.
Also, Catharism wasn't all that popular outside Languedoc.
>What were the Spanish doing before the Reconquista and colonisation?
There was no Spain before the Reconquista.
>And how come they just chimped out with such advances after fucking 800 years (nearly a millennia) of foreign rule?
The only part of the Iberian peninsula that was under "foreign rule" for 800 years was Granada, by 1100 Christian kingdoms had already taken back over half of the peninsula.
The kingdom of Spain de facto started with the conversion of Recared to catholicism. Anything else is cope and lies.
>The kingdom of Spain de facto started with the conversion of Recared to catholicism.
If you went back in time at that moment, no one would know what the fuck the "kingdom of Spain" is. You're the one coping.
>The Catholic Visigothic kingdom of Hispania
Spain is the rightful heir of the great Tartessian empire, which has existed for thousands of years and will soon be reborn
Fighting each other as much as the remaining moslems
>What were the Spanish doing before the Reconquista
There was no spain before 756 when abd al rhamn created a state There
>And how come they just chimped out with such advances after fucking 800 years (nearly a millennia) of foreign rule?
The Muslims stopped being an actual threat by the mid 1200s after almohad rule collapsd, they only controlled granada as tributary state that posed no threat.
>There was no spain before 756 when abd al rhamn created a state There
Lmao what is this mad goatfucker even rambling about
>Criminal Code concerning sexual acts between humans and animals and replaced it with a new article criminalising bestiality if an act injures an animal to such an extent that intervention by a veterinarian is necessary
Well well well, look who's the actual goatfucker
meme law that was immediately repelled.
Russians did have their own colonization efforts in Siberia
And they eventually reached the America's through the Pacific; settling on California and Alaska
*Americas
>Like, when Russia was conquered by Mongols for just 300 years, it needed 300 years more after the liberation to cope with the damage Mongols had done.
That's to be expected, Mongols are hardcore. Muslims are like little babies compared to them.
Advances like what exactly
1ºst mistake. There was NO muslim rule. In fact, 99% of Spain remained christian. Muslims only "ruled" some cities in the half south but even in deepest Andalucia most villages remained christian. Or what retarded mind would believe that 20.000 bereberes ruled in 711-900 the largest country in Europe with 5.000.000 people?? What retarded mind can believe that hundred of thousands of boats sailed from Africa to arrive to Spain in those times if even today most get sunk in the sea?
2º There was no central State or common administration. In fact, there was NO administration during the muslim era. There is NOTHING related to a government during the muslim times.
3º The maps that show all of Spain as "AlAndalus" is the fakest thing ever. They just conquered a few castles here and there and then automatically 100km around the map is painted as "muslim" despite most probably most natives never realised that the castle changed hands (in those times it took 1 week on a donkey to go to the capital).
Wait until you realize that the Coup d'etat in 1982 was promoted by King Juan Carlos in order to remove UCD (the political party that opposed that Spain entered the NATO alliance). He cause the coup in order to put the socialists into power (because they wanted Spain to get into the NATO organization). And that is what happened.
Catalans conquered much of the Mediterranean, BTFOed the Pisans, Genoes and Byzakangz
Albanians, Bulgars and French too.
>What were the Spanish doing before the Reconquista and colonisation?
Visigoths chimping on constant civil wars to the point hispanoroman patricians allied with arabs to kick these assholes out of power. At the time islam was considered an heresy, not a different religion as a whole, Visigoths were neither that close to Catholicism since they shurely were arrians in secret. So to have outsiders ruling you it was better to be ruled by a refined enlightened mediterranean society as arabics than by a bunch of dirty barbaric ignorant mudhut dwellers only know for sacking Rome and getting beaten by other barbar savages. Plus Berbers since ancestral times had close economic and cultural ties with Baetica (Andalusia), many disciples from St. Augustine moved from Tunis to Hispania during Roman era.
Asturian, Basque and Cantabrian tribes quite the same than during Roman era. Paying tribute to whatever alien culture ruling over hispanoromans in the south and rebelling against them from time to time as an excuse to sack hispanoroman villages and cities.
>Visigoths chimping on constant civil wars to the point hispanoroman patricians allied with arabs to kick these assholes out of power
It was the Arian faction of the Visigoth that allied with Islam retard.
>At the time islam was considered an heresy, not a different religion as a whole
It totally was
>Visigoths were neither that close to Catholicism since they shurely were arrians in secret
Many Visigoth were Catholics, afte rthe Muslim invasion Arianism completely vanished from the peninsula.
Read Ramon Llul, Islam was seen as an heresy, there were a lot of debates between catholic and muslim theologists about it.
>Many Visigoth were Catholics, afte rthe Muslim invasion Arianism completely vanished from the peninsula
They did not hesitated to convert into islam once muslims btfo them out of power un Guadalete. The ones who were fanatically christians in all their way into XX century were hispanoromans, specially the proto-castilian mozarabs from the plateau and Sierra Morena.
>They did not hesitated to convert into islam once muslims btfo them out of power un Guadalete
Yes since they were the Arians that asked the nafris for help. Arians were literally worshiping a nafri named Arius
The ones that were catholic fled to the north. Anyway I don't think the late visigoth, from recared onwards were all that different from the romans hence why their identity didn't survive
>Read Ramon Llul, Islam was seen as an heresy, there were a lot of debates between catholic and muslim theologists about it.
Ramon Llull was an advocate of both TKD (total kike death) and TDD (total dunecoon death) and had given up on converting these by the end of his life, understanding that the problem was racial
>So to have outsiders ruling you it was better to be ruled by a refined enlightened mediterranean society as arabics than by a bunch of dirty barbaric ignorant mudhut dwellers only know for sacking Rome and getting beaten by other barbar savages
You really are full of shit nagger. Iberians always had more in common with the snownaggerest scandi than with any of you desert dwelling ape. And Spaniards viewed the Visigoths so much as foreigners that they claimed to be them for the centuries to come.
>t. amerimutt mystery meat larping as nordic
Actually it's wogs who try to larp as if they were actually European.
>See, us nafris and you iberians are both med brothers against nordic barbarians
>no fuck off
>waaah you wog you not white
Anyway.
fuck southern europeans they fucked the north first
Well i mean ethnically they are to some degree. If you didn't want Americans you should have kept everyone in your respective countries. A lot of Europeans love to talk shit, but it's their fault we exist. The Romans and Normans fucked England, then England colonized North America, as well as other spots. Other European countries colonized other places. Western Europeans love to shit on us, when they acted like complete assholes not that long ago. Should have stayed in Europe. Fuckin' retards.
Getting buttfucked by others, like the rest of the Europeans. Before colonialism Europeans were being conquered or fighting amongst themselves. Everyone forgets that colonialism happened recently.
So what were the differences between northern Spain and southwestern France? The look the same.
putos gabachos se pueden suicidar y la puta gabacha se puede atragantar con mi polla, no somos mismo
I'm a Spaniard I just find weird this idea that the Visigoth were anathema to the Hispano Romans when nothing support it. Even more the claim that they would thought the nafris as being superior to them
The fun part is that Reconquista was actually larping as Visigoths tribal chiefs from Asturians, Cantabrians and Galicians against what used to be Visigothic Kingdom subjects and elites because in the logic of these tribes Gothic was synonym with Christian and Christian was a synonym of political legitimacy.