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What type of wood has the best guitar tone? Does aged wood have a better sound over new wood?
Tonewood isn't enough you need the Gibs me dat son Pube Paul.
god this guy is such a contrarian homosexual who makes clickbait and acts super smug about it
his video where he destroyed Chappers was good but everything else he has done has been trash
LFG Troglodytes!
That dude is such a bitter homosexual
he's unwatchable because all his videos are just him seething his ass off while trying to seem smug and superior
Not to mention the dude has never seen a tooth brush or a shower or a gym
>dude has never seen a tooth brush or a shower or a gym
could have just said "he's irish"
the tonewood meme got debunked like 10 years ago bro, it was all the oh guitar youtubers talked about before they all got replaced with paid shills during the mid 2010's
The kids here are too young to remember the old flame wars and impotent literal boomer bitching surrounding the whole affair. Or what youtube was like before the algo change.
It's all in the pickups
That top is simply gorgeous
>He still believes in tonewoods
Depends on what you want. Any hardwood is preferable due to its resistance and capability to offer better string resonance. The difference in tone is rather minimal as far as electric guitars go, but you can feel it. It all goes down to the guitar.
Aged wood is preferable since woods gets drier as time passes by, offering better tonal qualities (more clear, crisper sound, better precision since the inner structure gets tighter). Bear in mind the wood's overall quality is essential.
In the end, learn how to play well before asking about the tonewood. Time will teach you to tell the differences.
>doesn't take in account how wood is an organic material and changes as the time passes by due to its internal structure and the environment, affecting not only the electronics, but also the guitar's precision
What a clown
>Depends on what you want. Any hardwood is preferable due to its resistance and capability to offer better string resonance.
Are you just stringing words together, hoping they mean something? Resistance?
Resonance means shit with an electric guitar. AT MOST, wood types can impact sustain, but sustain isn't tone.
t. paid three grand for a name brand guitar when they could have gotten a shitplank and replaced the pickups and pots for well under half the cost
Good luck touring with such a shitty and unreliable gui- oh wait it's true you are and will be just a hobbyist
>t. bedroom loser
gear literally doesn't matter fggot, if you can't play it on a shitplank you can't play it on a 500,000$ strat and the other way around
If you want to actually be a professional working musician, trash gear will be a huge hindrance
those guys are some fucking stupid
EVEN if it was true? Who fucking cares? You can EQ and will EQ your tone out of the amp
They don't even play live who gives a shit about rosewood fretboards
I know I’ll just EQ my voice to sound like Elvis! See you guys at the Grammys
Yes but my $3k shit plank is worth $4k right now and it’s also going to be worth more in 10 years and play better.
The Chinese gutiar is designed to look the same off the shelf but corrodes inside to shit and warps the second it leaves 45% humidity. There is a reason touring pros don’t use them (it’s becuase they don’t stay intonated well and don’t last very long) you woidont know if you just play Metallica into a boss katana
>I know I’ll just EQ my voice to sound like Elvis! See you guys at the Grammys
and your technique has to do with tone how you brainlet?
Literally kys already, you are NGMI
nah, I don't think it does
>Yes but my $3k shit plank is worth $4k right now and it’s also going to be worth more in 10 years and play better.
If you're 'collecting", that's a completely different thing, and it's a crapshoot it'll be worth anything in 10 years. Yours, not mine.
I don't even argue against using good wood - it matters from a durability aspect, mahogany wears well, which is why you see beat up 50's LPs with the finish worn off, but the meat of the body is still there. Fun fact, when they specced the original LPs, they chose furniture grade woods like flame maple and mahogany and ebony for how it looks, and how it wears, not for any tonal characteristics at all. They wanted them to look upscale, professional, like the "serious" jazz hollowbodies they'd been building before that.
But the prices Gibson charges is the real problem, they're charging you way too much for what the materials cost - and over time have been removing things like binding and good pots to save dimes, and charging you dollars for less. A luthier can build you a better LP "tribute" for around $2k, and use better wood and parts than what Gibson does.
But if you start parroting "tonewood" snake oil, I will mock your gullible ass mercilessly. You will literally buy anything.
>they chose furniture grade woods like flame maple and mahogany and ebony for how it looks
Sort of like how Leo Fender only switched to rosewood because he saw the lacquer worn off a maple fretboard and thought it looked "dirty."
1. He didn’t test for sustain
2. He didn’t test for the EQ
3. He didn’t test volume
4. He didn’t test for intonation
What use was doing this? Oh right, there was literally no point because he didn’t test results at all except the YouTube compression AND HE EVEN USED A COMPRESSOR anyway. The compressor literally smooshes the EQ and sustain to be the same.
He’s a retard, and this is the problem with normies. They’re fucking stupid.
And furthermore they sounded differnt most of the tests even with the compression.
Is it ebony to buy a burled bubinga PRS 10 top? Not in my book but I know for a fact all those parts make a difference. You just have to have experience recording and mixing to hear when somethings wrong or bad or needs changing.
>Thinking that anything other than the amp and speaker cabinet matter
Any great amp/cab can make a chink guitar sound amazing. Nobody cares about this hocus pocus tonewood outside of literal schizos.
>What use was doing this? Oh right, there was literally no point because he didn’t test results at all except the YouTube compression AND HE EVEN USED A COMPRESSOR anyway. The compressor literally smooshes the EQ and sustain to be the same.
This is what happens in the real world, dumbass. When you get a record produced, it gets EQ'd and produced, plus you have bass and drums in the mix. The only thing that can really change your tone is the amp you were plugging into and the speaker that you got miced up. Everything else is practically schizo.
His methodology was bad. It doesn’t matter what the results were because he didn’t test anything in a controlled way.
Idk why you even talk about EQ and drums. You’re saying that the tonewood does matter but it’s irrelevant instead of tonewood doesn’t matter at all. I agree the tonewood does make a difference and it’s mostly irrelevant.
But my thesis is I’m saying that video didn’t show the answer either way.
this
even accidentally bumping into the mic putting it half an inch to the side from the old spot will make the sound way more different than changing every bit of wood on your guitar body from bubinga to particle board
>miced
*mik'd
This.
This is also the same guy who tested 'where does tone come from in an amp' and for his 'test' just harshly strummed a distorted full barre chord several times to see how the sound differed, so you didn't ever hear any actually dynamic playing to judge if there was much of a difference.
There's also this vid from a much better guitar youtuber where you can hear a difference from one to the other.
I didn't really believe in tone woods but it definitely does seem like the mahogany sounds thicker, I listened with my eyes closed and there was a definite difference between the mahogany and the pressure treated
I'm team Paul because that other kid's videos are lame. PRS makes some neat guitars. Hurr durr "I'm not a tech but I just built an amp that perfectly matches every amp on the market out of 4 pedals." "I'm just a musician with a huge collection of gear, a full workshop, studio, and camera equipment."
Look boys,
As much as I hate Paul, and Andy Powers I have decided ultimately they are correct.
Harder wood is going to Dampen the bridge and strings less and therefore sustain better.
Paul’s pickup memes are literally all using computers to design the pickups before they even wind them.
So the details are in fact differnt the only question is whether the nuance is worth the premium.
The answer is an SG or LP standard is all you need
>Harder wood(s)... sustain better.
That's been my experience. Dense woods sustain longer, less dense (lightweight) woods resonate more.
It’s obviously true looking at physics but even just compare a banjo to a Les Paul.
tap on a drum skin. how long does it sustain? A banjo is the same thing, genius
Sustain isn't tone.
tone comes from your balls
>sustain
Isn't tone.
>EQ
Is in the tone knob, pre-amp, effects, and speaker
>volume
Isn't tone
>intonation
Isn't tone.
Learn what tone is, before boomer sperging because you paid $2000 more for a guitar for marketing snake oil.
>volume envelope doesn't affect the sound aka tone
Sometimes I forget how many retards (in this case you) come here
>volume envelope
Did you really think you had a point? LOL.
>NOOOOOO YOU MUST BELIEVE YOUTUBE SCIENCE
his videos are basically clickbait and all his "conclusions" are designed to be the answer he wants. he's unscientific as fuck
Trust the science, chud.
the one that looks the way you like and feels good in your hands and makes you think you have a nice instrument that you personally like and feel inspired to play better
1. Is your guitar acoustic?
if not, none of this matters
this. are we talking about an acoustic guitar? if yes, we can argue about tonewood all day long (mahogany is goat, fuck you). if we're talking about an electric, then you're falling for memes. the tone comes from the pickups and your hands. fender made a strat out of high-density cardboard, and once they put the pickups in, it sounded like very other strat.
chester..
it doesn't matter if your guitar is made out of wood, plastic, cardboard, concrete or anything, you need good pickups, good shielding, good hardware, clean energy, and a cabinet with you favorite speakers to sound good. tonewood is a myth.
An electric guitar makes it's sound by having a string vibrate. The pickup is a microphone for the string. Why would the wood this system is mounted on make any difference? People get this idea of muh harmonics in their head but in reality when the guitar's body is pressed up against your body, it'll barely even vibrate so won't be producing any frequencies.
Acoustic guitars make the air inside of them vibrate (think of the body as it's pickup), so the type of wood/bracing affects sound reflection/absorption and the sound picked up by your ears. Changing acoustic wood does change its "microphone", whereas it won't on an electric.
correct
>The pickup is a microphone for the string.
Kind of. A microphone captures sound waves, and converts it with a coil and magnet. A guitar string moving in a magnetic field in a pickup generates a signal. Close, but two different things. You're generating a signal, either way.
Why is perfect pitch generally understood to be not a universal skill, but this tonewood meme is supposed to be universally detectable?
I think the "no difference" crowd just have to accept the fact their sense of hearing is not as acute as some other people.
Because in double blind experiments, the only noticable difference is the thickness of the pick and the person using it. Even PRS himself admitted to it, accidentally. Nice wood looks nice and that's all that matters. That and ebony wears less than rosewood fretboards.
I've seen people who claim to 'debunk' the wood thing claim that the pickup is all that matters, if that was the case then you wouldn't hear any difference from a solid body guitar to a hollowbody for example.
Imagine putting a tele or strat pickups into a jazz box for example, it's not going to sound like a tele or a strat.
Why do jazzercisers think hollow body is so much different?
Hollowbody is hybrid electric/acoustic, and everybody agrees tonewood matters for acoustic, so it's reasonable to believe it affects hollowbodys too.
Nope. Hollowbodies are impractical for high gain because of feedback, from soundwaves impacting the movement of the strings in the magnetic field, causing it to howl. If you want any tonal acoustic qualities from a hollowbody, you mic it like an acoustic.
Take the strings off your guitar and start hitting the body of your guitar and see how much tone comes through the amp
With my $5k PSR Santana I can sing into my pickups and record my voice through my amp.
But keep seething thirdie lmao
Yes.
>What type of wood has the best guitar tone?
Spruce and rosewood for acoustic, mahogany for electric.
>Does aged wood have a better sound over new wood?
Yes.
aged wood, aged amps, aged pickups, aged strings, aged pick, to achieve the best aged sound
And if you want to record it, you need an aged microphone with an aged audio interface and an aged computer for that extra warm tone. I record exclusively on a windows XP machine because it sounds better than windows 10, IMHO.
You should put your computer in the trunk of your car and take it on a road trip first. The vibrations will loosen the tension in the circuits.
filthy digiscum ruins tone like nothing else
studer a80 or bust
Unless your guitar is acoustic wood makes fuck all difference to tone.
Wood should be picked in electric for weight, stability and looks.
An alder body will have a multipurpose tone good for all genres. Mahogany is a thicker, woodier tone. Basswood has more low end. Bubinga is an exotic wood with an warm, tropical character. Maple neck for crisp bright tones. Roasted maple adds grit and bite. Ebony for a refined classic sound with with increased sustain. Pau ferro is cheap and sounds like plastic.
Pau ferro was considered exotic years ago. It has a density close to that of maple with the look of rosewood. It was never considered a lesser wood until it replaced muh rosewood.
Enjoy your thin, brittle tones and poor sustain.
"Thin" and "brittle" is how I would describe the effect of rosewood, tbh.
Rosewood is crisp without the ice picky overtones of maple.
Just mainlining that snake oil, arencha? Just spiking it it right into your vein.
Personally I won't play anything other than all aluminum.
Pau Ferro always looked like ass
The difference is subtle and has more to do with the initial attack as you strike the strings, but there is a difference. Differences in scale length and general construction are far more important to the sound of an electric guitar than "tone" wood.
>What type of wood has the best guitar tone?
guitarist audiophiles use to say it's swamp ash
Swamp ash is too moist sounding to my ear.
>moist
what do you mean by "moist"?
ask your mom LOL
REKT
Just be a good guitar player. Guitarists debating over tone, wood and whatever else is the musical equivalent of buff guys on steroids getting attention from men but not women.
Guitar playing skill > the type of guitar you own
none
the way i see it is this: the pickup "picks up" the vibrations of the string and converts it to an electric signal that is sent to the amp, shaped and then amplified. no one would argue that is incorrect.
so essentially all that matters on an electric guitar is the vibration of the strings and the pickups that pick up the signal. so the bridge, the nut, the pickup height and the winds and magnet types are basically all that matters.
but what if wood types affect the vibration? does mahogany cause the strings to vibrate differently due to the density of the wood or something? does maple cause them to vibrate differently? alder? etc.
is it really just what happens between the nut and the bridge and pickups beneath that effect the vibration of the string?
i ask because i genuinely don't know, i am interested. you're not hearing the wood or anything like that on an electric guitar, you're hearing an electrical signal sent from pickups to an amp. but can wood affect the vibrations that are converted to an electrical signal?
A pickup senses more than string vibration if it's microphonic
Is this the thread where theorylets go after they’ve been BTFO in music threads to spread more of their MAGA-tier lies?
what an embarrassing post. and you made in without a hint of irony
You always have this knee jerk reaction when you feel called out?
you seem very upset
Not at all. Avoiding the question?
The ones you obviously can't afford sound better
If it affects how the string resonates, it affects the tone. Simple as.
Guys remember to use a leather strap. Fabric straps suck tone.
If material doesn't affect the tone of electric guitars than why do aluminum ones sound different from wooden ones?
pickups are magnets
Why does /gg/ attract so many schizos?
>so many
It's one person. /gg/ is the way it is because of that one guy. When he's not on it's a completely different thread.
this
it's literally one guy and he's been living in those threads 24/7 for almost a decade. you know how most LULZ schizos give up and move on eventually? not him, he's been at it almost a decade straight
he actually got worse in recent years, he doubled down for some reason. i legitimately feel bad for him
you ok bro?
there he is
>mfw cum shitter couldn't cry hard enough
>ass hurt so bad he had to come cry in a second thread to cope