What type of gay are you? Homosexual, pederast, bisexual or adventurer?
What type of gay are you? Homosexual, pederast, bisexual or adventurer?
What type of gay are you? Homosexual, pederast, bisexual or adventurer?
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I transed the gay away.
this, why not use the cure when it's available. being gay is miserable lifestyle with high risk of aids, violence and gay dating is just cock carousel that ends up the feminine gay being thrown into trash like an used condom after twinkdeath.
being passing trans practically has same risk as cis women (still worse than for cis men, but if you actually are true feminine gay homosexual you can never be a cis man)
You make it sound like transitioning is easy. It's fucking hard and expensive and not every feminine gay man will be passable unlike what this grotesque old queen Rod Fleming suggests.
Also, imagine being homophobic on a fucking fag board. Get a job.
It's not fucking hard amd expensive if you start in your teens and saying objective facts about why gay lifestyle sucks is not homophobic.
I'm trans and I gotta say the transgender lifestyle kinda sucks too. If you're not passable and Rod (I know it's you), 90% of trans women do not pass in the world, life is extremely difficult. Just leaving your house everyday is difficult because of the stares and glares. Most trans women have to undergo painful surgeries and deal with extreme dysphoria. None of us would willingly do this or recommend this. You are absolutely insane for recommending transitioning homosexual teen boys as a way to "cure" the gay lifestyle. That is fucking homophobic as shit and creepy af thing to say.
I'm passable trans woman who has lived as woman for over a decade, not fucking Rod Fleming (imagine being this obsessed), but you may choose not to believe this because of course you can't admit that your life could have been if you chose to live as girl when you still had a chance.
Also, passing is not hard if you transition before 18. Hell, about 50% manage to pass easy at 18 too.
And yes I did it for dysphoria (though at this point in I have kinda forgotten what I felt like, that happens easily when you can live a relatively normal life thanks to transition), but if you think like most fem gay boys don't have gender dysphoria you're fucking Zucker tier.
When I still had a chance? I'm trans! lol I've transitioned, bitch. I started my transition 7 years ago. It's been a rough journey but ultimately I'm happy I did it because in my case I had no other option. That's not the case with gay teens. If we're talking about trans teens that's another story, there is a difference between gay and trans you know that, right? Being actually trans is rare. And I know gnc gays/lesbians can have a degree of dysphoria but that doesn't mean they should absolutely transition.
Also, what if the fem gay boy cannot transition in their teens? Or even early 20s due to their environment, family, or financial issues? They will have to wait later like I and most trans women do to transition, and then have to get expensive surgeries to become "passable". If not, life is no cake walk.You know you're full of bs, if you truly are a trans woman and not him lol, you have no clue what tf you're talking about.
>there is a difference between gay and trans you know that, right?
Fundamentally no there isn't. Gays / drag queens / HSTS / GNC blahblah are all the exact same thing, only difference is external presentation, on hormones or not, surgery or not.
I didn't call you bitch, so ease on name calling buddy. I know you may have hard time, but don't project it on me. That's why I may sound mean. I'm s kind hearted person with lots of compassion, but hate it when people project their "non-passing" on me, far too common here on /tttt/.
Read the Zucker studies about "desisters" and young gay (HSTS in reality) kids and you will understand what you mean and why I may sound homophobic though I'm far from homophobe. I mean I'm heavily involved in gay scene myself, but really it has it's problems especially for feminine gays.
And most young transitioners don't need surgery to pass. I know many and I didn't myself. Just because this may come to you as odd it doesn't mean it isn't reality for lot of people.
No gay man wants to transition, if you really loath yourself to the point that you think you're a woman simply because you like other men, you're schizophrenic.
You have no concept of love, sexuality, nor gender if your thinking is as stupid as "women are women because they love men, men are men because they love women".
Transitioning just came naturally for me. The men that I liked are straight, and now they treat me well. The guys I kissed in high school would call me homosexual in public, and told me that they'd date if I was a real girl (instead of just a cross-dresser). As a woman, I can indulge in my hobbies without judgment, I can be friends with women, who I relate to more, and I can be a wife and mother. After SRS and BA, men think I'm really sexy. Why would I have rather been gay?
It's not a matter of hate, it's just beneficial, and sets up every social and romantic interaction to come from an angle that feels very natural to us. It's the form men love and appreciate, all gays are sort of girly anyway, so it's kind of corrective.
There is just nothin beneficial about being a man, when you love men.
What's crazy about that? It's all true. It's opting out of an awful life style into something better.
I have never met anyone more dysfunctional in my life than aged out fem fags. There's reasons for that.
Coping with life when you have a female brain, female desires, and a male body. Not to mention the only men who may ever like you are repulsed by femininity.
exactly, I don't understand why people want us to try to be men when the world isn't really built for men like us, we make better women
You know I still can't figure it out. Because honestly people treated me so much fucking worse as a fem fag. Like they hate them more than anything. Being a non passing twink-hon is like heaven compared to it.
But all I ever here people say on the net is "why don't you just be a feminine guy??" They have to just be clueless or disengenous. Fags are the worst about it too. But I guess they just can't be honest about it, like really hit can't lol. We're just to sensitive and sweet for the gay lifestyle and male expectations.
seriously the dishonesty is why its not surprising you are trannies. its not surprising youre lonely and nobody wants you. yeah... not shocking at all...
Idk I never had a single bf before transition. But lots after... Also what dishonesty am I preaching? What am I saying that is so wrong you have to nasty in return?
>your mentally ill
>you just suck
But gays never dismiss your points themselves just you...
I don't doubt that one bit, or that you are engaged to a lovely man, only fitting for such a pleasant lady as yourself.
getting boyfriends isnt hard lol. since ur not using trips idk which one u are.
Getting bf's is hard as fuck when your feminine and not into fem4fem. Esp the older you get it only gets harder from a certain point. At a point your to much like a girl for gay men to be attracted.
Like when your young, it's doable. But your kind of inherently disposable because you aged out. I've heard a lot of fems tell me this kind of thing.
If you don't butch up at a certain age your going to be alone.
You have valid points. Being a young, cute fem guy is definitely attractive to a variety of guys: bisexual, pansexual, curious straights, and GAMPs love femboys. But once you past 30 it becomes hard. I'm sure there are exceptions and tbh if a fem guy can find someone gay or bi/pan that can love them for their feminity, that's amazing.
I'd say 23 those bi poaching days are even over for some. But that's the thing Bisexuals are not in it for long term, and you basically are held down unto you age out, no longer have good potential for transition, but no longer fem enough for your bf. Then it's over unless you go fem4fem, or Top and butch up.
Idk every old fem fag I've ever met was a sad dysfunctional person. It breaks my heart. They all have some degree of GD too, but fear overrides that, they don't wanna be weirdos, they still see it as this completely different thing. When it's really not.
That's sad actually. I know a lot of young fem gays and they're beautiful but I wonder how they'll be when they age. Like I said earlier, if they can find someone who love them for their feminity even as they age, that's the best, if not, then maybe transitioning but let's be real, transitioning is kinda scary and not every person with GD has the fortitude to do it. I suspect this is what happened to a lot of older fem gays.
>they don't wanna be weirdos
always seemed to be like funny senseless cope to me because a flaming femfag is much more a weirdo than a trans women provided that you pass (though really you don't even need to fully pass these days in liberal areas, just be atleast remotely girl/woman looking and then there's boymoding for those who can handle that which practically makes you no weirder than femfag and maybe even less weird cause femfags tend to dress more fem/flamboyant than any boymoder)
> being a fag is wierder than being a mentally ill man
seriously youre really not gonna beat the homophobic accusations.
I agree its like way weirder imo. Honestly the more fem your face and body is, the more your feminine behavior gets more normal. The less jarring your whole personality becomes... even without passing. Passing obviously it all becomes normal and is infinitely better, but not passing really just isn't as odd as being a flaming, sensitive, feminine fag.
It's true though. When I was a fem fag, people reacted and found it so much fucking weirder than me as a tranny. Woman were way more disgusted and men did not what me around period. Now everyone is just really nice. Like people are just not receptive to being a flamer.
Midwest. Other places are just less averse, still wasnt great imo.
you people must be from ohio or something.
Why would someone who succeeded at transition use trip here? Ridiculous idea. Trips are for babytrans or those unfortunate who never really made it to the girl/woman side.
I come here to post snonymous cause this one of few places I can talk trans stuff as I'm mostly stealth irl.
Exactly. Also, this is one of the only places where there are at least SOME straight trannies, and its more honest too. It's a shit show obviously but if you're stealth irl where else are you going to go?
I think on many levels this board is far more healthy than say Reddit because there's no toxic positivity and no nazi tier (for being so antifascists, redditors tend to be really fashy on controlling discussion) moderation and it's not that hard to find nice discussion here. This board also can offer real advice and good information on how to transition with HRTGen for example being really good.
Sure there are those "it's over" permaboy/manmoders who are insane, but their own digital self-harm circle is pretty easily ignorable.
y'all seem cool, if you ever want an online friend who has a similar situation as you, drop your discord, maybe we'd get along <3
I'm married and agree with all of them, but you're free not to believe lol.
transition works best if you , but real reason I did was the thing called gender dysphoria, but that was physical stuff like HRT and surgeries. Me living as woman is a pure rational choice though as it suits me far better than man.
Yeah life as a passing post-op woman is infinitely better than the loneliness and rejection I put up with in high school.
I'm literally engaged lmao
im a gay man and have been married to a man who only dated cis women before me... your point?
? this is literally the craziest thing ive read in a minute
>the culture is so degenerate it drives people to mutilate themselves with chemicals and surgeries
why is being gay so metal
>being passing trans practically has same risk as cis women
Aside from the miserable lifestyle with high risk of aids and violence.
Violence yeah, but If you pass the only risk cis women don't have is getting trans panic murdered.
Well there's still the rampant drug abuse and hig std rates.
There really isn't tho
>she doesn't know
Well Rod is definitely the pederast type
I transed the gay away.
i gayed trans away
Also, you're beyond ugly af Rod. You're the last person to be criticizing anyone. You lambast cis women, gay men, lesbians and trans lesbians but you yourself are a repressed AGP who can never be with a beautiful cis woman so you chase after third world trannies in the slums of SEA. Sad.
>can never be with a beautiful cis woman
He has already successfully reproduced and has children of his own, something you will never achieve.
Bruh I always wonder what his 4 kids think about the fact that their dad is off in the Phillipines banging underage ladyboys and ranting about western trannies into a webcam.
This is the funniest thing; he is SUCH a fucking repressor it hurts. His videos of raging at AGPS when he clearly is one himself is hysterical.
Also im a gay slut but atleast im a top; I bet this homosexual has sucked more dick than me
The actual reason why effeminate gays don't transition is because they have aap. And it's so ironic - my bf was effininate af as a kid, he even scammed straight males who approached him, but after puberty hit he became 6"5 hairy man (but with gay face and who cries after sad movie). And he is so happy with t effects that he jerked off to his own body in the mirror for years untill he got bored and started seeking bf.
I was dangerously close to that in puberty, but instead hated it and quit it with HRT at 16 before I got facial hair and grew longer than 5'10
I have never had AAP (or AGP) though
>at 16 before I got facial hair and grew longer than 5'10
I've started at 19 while being 5'9 and without any facial hair. It didn't help me in any way to pass, my hair is huge and will never pass
Ok, if you don't pass you should not whine about it, but do something about it.
Also huge hair is what? You mean head? Yeah big skull is bad, but try FFS. This life is not fair and world is a bitch sorry.
I'd have more sympathy for you if you weren't whiny shit.
God I forgot this man exists. Most disgusting man on the planet. Bro we get it you fuck lady boys and like it so much you want the whole world to do that
How much longer do you think Rod can last in flipland before he has to come crawling back to the UK. Given that he can't even afford teeth I'm sure he doesn't have too many paypigs.
His YouTube channel and blog are nearly dead and he's begging for money on every video.
He even sell hypnotherapy for AGP lmao
just because I have a crush on a guy and think about sucking his dick 24/7 doesn’t make me gay
I want Rod to fuck my bussy
>they will both penetrate and be penetrate. That is they behave in conformity with female sex sometimes and with male sex at other. So they are 'bisexual'.
>this is not the only type of bisexual in the 'gay' lifestyle. Another is actually a form of Autogynephilia, which, remember is 'a man's propensity to be aroused at the thought or image of himself as a woman.' But these Autogynephiles are rarely transvestic and get their kicks from having 'sex as a woman' -- that is, by being penetrated.
>these men pick very young boys to be their sexual partners, that is, to penetrate them, even paying for this. This seems to be a way for them to overcome their natural revulsion towards masculine male bodies.
So bisexuals are simultaneously AGP and pederasts?
>So bisexuals are simultaneously AGP and pederasts?
I've been saying this for years lol but no one has been taking me seriously.
But why does he ignore vers gays? they are the majority.
I like to penetrate and to be penetrated
His typology explains vers "gays" pretty comprehensively, did you read to the end?
I'm 100% androphilic and like to penetrate and to be penetrated.
He is just making this shit up. he's not even doing blanchardian typology he's just making shit up. he thinks he's an expert because he fucks ladyboy prostitutes. his expertise, experience and ability includes
>a degree in sculpture and print-making
>dogshit generic photography
>writing dogshit science fiction
>low-level forgettable journalism about how south east asia is nice
>bumming around and fucking ladyboys in south east asia.
Also he is a pedo and a pederast and write about how to have sex with underaged ladyboys in third world countries.
noooo stop being attracted to teenagers noooooo
>legally porking a girl under 18
90%+ of your female ancestors were impregnated under the age of 18.
yes and they also died from the flu at like 23
pederast, it even lead me to trying to transition as a desperate attempt to satisfy my peter pan syndrome
i have realised the error of my ways, have stopped hrt, will start lifting. hopefully soon i can stop being gay altogether
What is this typology based on?
Any scientific evidences?
Rod Fleming is a hack who takes the scientific research and interjects it with his own ideas and opinions, which range anywhere from plausible-ish to completely insane.
He’s not an authority or a sexologist, he’s just some crazy dude with too many opinions.
NTA but what's the big fundamental difference were missing here? Cuz I don't see how they are different.
>getting laid as gay is eazzzzzy
Yeah no. I don't get bitches and I'm lucky if I get guy to fuck
t.21yo gay top
this is not even skill issue, just install grindr and you have endless butts to fuck
of course quality and stds maybe what it is, but it's fucking easy
I already use grindr and I'm not concerned for stds, dummy
I'm not expecting models, but when I only get desperate 35yo married fat men that want to fuck ME, a top then yeah it's literally nothing
maybe it's a skill issue then because as top you're supposed to initiate and approach people you know? you can't expect bottoms to ask you to fuck them lmao.
I do ask them out, they simply never respond or outright block me 🙂
Yeah, it's called genes
Consider that you might be ugly, in a bad area, or both.
Yes, I'm aware I'm ugly. I thought it was obvious from image I posted
>Some are trans
'Trans' is just a word. Is a gay male, who takes some hormones to maintain youthful appearance, is he Trans? Versus a self-declared Transwoman who is not on hormones?
There is no FUNDAMENTAL difference. Gays / drag queens / HSTS / GNC, they are all similar in terms of mental orientation, digit ratio and so on. It is the same population of homosexual males.
The amount of cis people smong them is great unknown though and because of society GROOMING them into repression it's impossible to know whether they're all trans akshually
>Both are trans as they experience GD
How so? Without knowing, we can only say that 50% of gay males who use hormones to look young, consider that they experience GD. If a gay presents as a male, considers themselves male, but they are vain and use some hormones to maintain an appearance, who are you to say that they are actually trans?
>all bottoms are women
>all tops are pedophiles
>most bis are pedophiles
no wonder he has fans on this board
Adventurer stringing along a homosexual. I fucking hate bisexuals and pederasts
Came out as trans, the idea of sexual inversion was popular. Everybody thought transsexuals are just the most feminine degree of homosexual males
>Everybody thought transsexuals are just the most feminine degree of homosexual males
this is correct. agps aren't transsexual they're just fetishists.
If they change/modify their sex characteristics with HRT and/or surgeries than they are transsexual
Read the whole thing, this guy sounds like an AGP, your run of the mill LULZ tranny who thinks any attraction to the same sex is trans
the way you dumb straight white guys pretend so hard to not be gay and even go as far as to drug yourself really highlights the sickness of straight white men.
as a fem man over 30 i have tons of options and stay with a rich staight passing man. usually repressed gay. remember, this whole thing is letting masc guys play with dick easier.
I bet you got your straight-passing rich guy before your twinkdeath right? Or maybe you're "fem" as in just flamerific behavior and gayface, but totally masculine manly man kinda like how Van Darkholme is to use celebrity example.
People who can butch up like that are different thing and more power to them if they also enjoy it and are happy with their masculinity.
But the point why I keep is that there are lot of gay "boys" and "men" who would be better off transitioned, but are GROOMED by society into being men which ruins their lives not only due to gender dysphoria, but how badly feminine gays (unless they masc up) are treated which is another real issue (the rampant abuse of young feminine twinks in gay scene that is) that should be talked about and not ignored.
I recommend everyone (tranny or not) who lacks personal experience of "feminine gay kid" childhood to read on Kenneth Zucker. He is despicaple person who did bad things to GNC kids, but his "research" offers very good perspective to real issues that people in this thread are talking about. It seems to me that many gays (and some trans) on this thread don't understand what we "ex-gays" (lol makes it sound like conversation therapy, but deal with it) are talking about as they seem to lack the experience of having been feminine kind of homosexual in their formative years.
Man if van Darkholme is gayface then no wonder everyone assumes I’m gay.
I actually had a pretty good childhood as a sensitive feminine boy. It was puberty that unleashed hell for me. And also, even attempting to masc up as a feminine gay is excruciatingly challenging and not rewarding. It feels like transitioning to male. Transitioning to female doesn’t work either for the same reason. We’re really stuck between genders. But I don’t mean to come off as argumentative, i enjoyed your post and would appreciate it if you could link what to read by Zucker? Thanks
Did you even try to transition into female though? I was kinda different case I guess in that I had desire to live as girl/woman already in childhood (even before learning that trans people existed I planned that I'm some how gonna get rid of my balls and start dressing/socially be like a woman once I move on my own, it was pretty great relief to learn that transition is a thing and I don't have to be freak cause HRT works, but I was prepared to be like that) and at 18 years old for me it was suicide or transition (very heavy gender dysphoria, now after succeeding in transition it feels very distant though and I can't really get it how I was so messed up, but very glad transition made everything better, just should have done it sooner, but sadly even I did have my attempts of trying man up and/or make myself "normal heterosexual boy" in my child/teen years although they all pathetically failed in my case)
Well https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Zucker is actually good start especislly the part about intervention for gender variance. Look up on citations for sources to his research.
pedophile and conversion therapist, name a more iconic duo
I gotta say this thread (at least the last few responses) make a VERY interesting read. Y'all's experiences are fascinating.
what a crackpot and so much projection holy fuck. The man is insane
I’m a feminine twink and the first type of bisexual fits me best. I grew up in a homophobic environment so I tried very hard to be more masculine and always failed. I am not fully gay because if I were then I would never have tried to be masculine.
You are half a fag anon. Although you wouldn't be the first homosexual to try and butch up. A lot have and with some success too.
I’m fully fag, and more homosexual than heterosexual, but still struggle with homophobia. One of the realizations that helped me accept myself is that I can’t pretend to be straight because even though I am bisexual, the way I like women is different than the way a straight guy does. So it’s not simply half gay/half straight, the nature of the attraction is different.
I'm kinda interested because I'm also 100% faggoid, but like women in some way. Vaginas are turn-off for me though, but I'm fine with pre-op/non-op/eunuch type trans women. Though I have only once dated trans woman and never succeeded dating cis women (I tried a lot in my internalized homophobia teenage years) as they would just friendzone me (act like a faghag towards me usually) because of seeing my "gay" through my behavior and face I guess.
I think for me it's due to my attempt at "conversion therapy" in my early teens when in my self-hate (internalized homophobia is a bitch yea) I would spend several years forcibly masturbating to heterosexual and lesbian porn which seems to have worked to some extent (I didn't have any attraction to female form before that, but after it I do), but in retrospect it was stupid and I shouldn't have done it. Nowadays I 100% accept being gay "male" even though I went with transition myself, my motive was in my gender dysphoria and not internalized homophobia or attempt to make myself straight. I don't care about sexuality of guys I date.
I meant I'm interested in what way you like women and how it's different? In order to maybe better understand the attraction I have even if it seems to be caused artificially in my case.
I under stand. A lot of homosexuals are what you call bisexual honestly. They just have a lot of variables for what would make pursuing a woman even considerable to them. Like a lot of them are not disgusted by woman the way a lot of people assume. I was just kind of teasing about the half a fag thing though. I apologize.
Woman will always be able to tell your different and don't have the typical male energy behind you. They can smell it on you. It suprises men when I hear about gay guys actually succeeding with woman.
No worries!! You are totally on the mark with everything else. I’ve noticed it too and I still notice it with other guys going through what I went through. You can spend a whole life living a lie like that.
I’m very happy to hear it has been a success for you! Your story is relatable but more “extrem” than me. I never tried to transition, I just tried HRT which I do feel better on but I don’t want boobs and I like being physically fit (I recently started going to the gym again and have gone from 5’8 120 to 130lbs and I feel better). Sometimes I do get gender dysphoria where I really wish I could have been born as a female but I don’t want to transition. I would go from trying to fit in as a guy to trying to fit in as a woman. The problem is that I am just a feminine male and no matter how hard I tried to be masculine I was always feminine to the core, but that doesn’t make me a woman, I would feel like I’m pretending to identify as a woman. I want to be feminine and accepted as a feminine male but also still be able to have my moments where I don’t have to be afraid to be masculine either. I still have masculine instincts like being protective of women in emergencies and my voice is usually soft but sometimes it gets deep on its own during serious situations etc. I couldn’t handle being constantly aware of trying to speak in a female voice. It would be like constantly trying to speak in a manly voice, instead of what comes naturally. That’s just me. The problem is I feel like I’m sorta nonbinary tbh but identifying as that is a meme so idk I don’t feel like a man either though, and it feels wrong to call myself one because I’m a feminine twink. I just wish feminine twinks like me were seen as deserving respect and not the butt of every insult. Because society hates me for being feminine but there are a few people in my life who appreciate it and it’s what makes me feel alive.
I can't really relate non-binary identity since internally I very much feel like a woman, but a lot of it has to do with growing into woman though. I didn't always feel it so strongly, but having lived and passed (aside early first year when I was in akward twinkhon territory) as girl since 18 years old I kinda grew into a woman. In my teens I did feel more like femboy or non-binary, but always wanted to become a girl and grow into a woman. I also alwats desired boobs and otherwise female body with my male body making me so dysphoric in child/teen years that I would avoid mirrors and any kind of situation where I would have to undress. It took me 5 years of HRT + orchiectomy to be able to truly accept and feel my body as my own. Before that I felt like my body was just foreign vessel housing my mind, but now I'm totally connected to it. It was weird "oh so this is how cissies feel it" kind of moment when I first started connecting to my body and veil of dissociation was lifted.
But regarding non-binary, I still think it's valid and actually could very well exist in reality. I mean since latest brain research seems to confirm transsexuality is related to abnormality in parts of brain that are thought to responsible for body and self-image, I guess it's possible to be only partially feminized leading to true non-binary condition. Of course vice versa for AFABs.
Although I physically identify myself as non-binary, but that's just cause I don't want to lie myself about my biology. I'm not male or female biologically, but rather infertile intersexual that exist between the sexes. Much more on fem side because of my boobs and literal childbearing tier hips (related to my intersex condition as Klinefelter) and hormones, but there's still male side (the Y chromosome atleast if not anything else) to me biologically and I accept that.
That is wonderful that you feel comfortable in your skin now. I’m happy for you anon.
I wish as much effort went into supporting one another as we do categorizing. I wish there were some form of help. It seems people are more motivated to help others out of a projection-repression pattern than a form of altruism. For example, people who hate their femininity/masculinity will help others repress because it helps them repress. But there is very little support for people who present as gender non conforming. It’s either repress or troon for people who are stuck in between.
What does Rod think we are supposed to do? What would you have done if you found it a little less necessary to transition, a little easier to live as a guy but still not like a cis hetero male?
>I under stand. A lot of homosexuals are what you call bisexual honestly. They just have a lot of variables for what would make pursuing a woman even considerable to them. Like a lot of them are not disgusted by woman the way a lot of people assume. I was just kind of teasing about the half a fag thing though. I apologize.
I belong to this category. The issue with women is Feminism turning them into insufferable entitled whores. Divorce rape doesn't help either.
If I'm in a relationship with a woman I want to feel like a king, not like I have a gun pointed to my head.
But I still have my urges so I fuck men, but I have no interest in a relationship with one.
This is why I'm strongly right-wing. My gay side has already all the rights it needs and outlawing homosexuality again seems improbable as long as I live.
But my straight side is still a white man and the current anti-straight white man zeitgeist is a thorn in my side.
No hard feelings, but my endgame demands me to be in the other team, even if it's currently the losing one.
This is why I don't but the convenient genetic ~~*scientific*~~ explanation for homosexuality (and transexuality for that matter).
There is a completely transparent correlation between the increased gay rights, increased women rights (and by rights I mean power), inceldom and homosexuality.
Men are simply picking the more convenient option for them, with most sticking to the gay side forever but a minority never quite abandoning their straight aspirations (women and kids, or even just sex). Those are what I consider bisexuals.
>gay Men are simply picking the more convenient option for them
You love posting that history of left-handedness bullshit
first time i did actually
why is that bullshit and why isnt your made up bullshit, bullshit?
t. Doesn't understand the scientific research about trannies and just says its ~~*science*~~
have you tried being with a trans woman? They treat their bfs like kings and are more receptive to old fashioned heterosexual courting.
I can't wait until the day more men start turning down cis women for superior hsts.
>I can't wait until the day more men start turning down cis women for superior hsts.
no real pussy though
>are more receptive to old fashioned heterosexual courting.
It's kinda part of why straight bfs are the goal tbh.
I want kids and I'm not sexually attracted to androgynous people. It's either highly masculine men or highly feminine women for me. Both with the expected genitalia.
What you're trying to say is that man/woman relationships are highly transactional, basically Red Pill theory.
Without the burden of genetic kids, which is what the entire man vs woman thing is about, gay relationships are more about actual love than business-like.
Which is why I think gays are stupid in trying to replicate straight relationships with their rituals like marriage and kids (adoption or surrogacy). It's like comparing actual meat with onions. They don't need that crap that only makes straight relationships a nightmare.
Adoption is a sunk cost because raising someone else's kid is from a purely pragmatic point of view a waste of resources, but I guess the need for love can outweigh that. Surrogacy has its own set of issues because I honestly wouldn't like my child to be a product, but being born from love, which is only possible in a heterosexual relationship. And in a gay relationship there is still only one real dad (or mom), in the event of divorce it's obvious who's getting the custody. Plus the whole "never growing up with female or male parent" problem which is why so many kids today are screwed up. I certainly wouldn't want my children to become sluts/incels/gay/trannies, so I can't condone that behavior, meaning I'm automatically going to be hypocritical but I can shoulder that sin.
Honestly I liked things better when the world was mostly straight, can we honestly say things have improved with homosexuality? I see way more cons than pros.
>Plus the whole "never growing up with female or male parent" problem which is why so many kids today are screwed up.
Meme. Then income is not a problem single parent households do almost as good as double parent
>I certainly wouldn't want my children to become sluts/incels/gay/trannies, so I can't condone that behavior, meaning I'm automatically going to be hypocritical but I can shoulder that sin.
Lmao you are one of those who unironically believe it's learned. Nevermind kys
>Honestly I liked things better when the world was mostly straight, can we honestly say things have improved with homosexuality? I see way more cons than pros.
>can we honestly say things have improved with homosexuality? I see way more cons than pros.
No, homosexuality always develops in decadent societies. It's one of the symptoms along with loss of faith, family unit, artistic sense and all sorts of mental problems like depression and sociopathy.
But this is the stage we're in right now so we have to roll with it. I'm freely homophobic around people I trust but I have to put on the PC mask in professional settings. And even then, my attitude is neutral at best, certainly not the revolting "look at me! I support the current thing!" charade most people do nowadays. My circle of relatives and friends whom I can be honest with keeps me sane. Bless my tradcon parents, I appreciate how lucky I was now.
>I'm freely homophobic around people I trust
Despite being gay/bi yourself?
Yes, I have already admitted being a hypocrite. They know why I screw with men despite having the standard straight goals.
I came out as bi to my parents in my late 20's and explained that I intend to continue the family line, they were understanding.
I get to shit all over everything I don't like about the gay community, they do the same as tradcon people and we agree.
The bond between me and my parents is unquestionable, I know that their negative views on the gay community don't affect their love for me in the slightest, and it's obvious from the way they treat me, nothing has changed from before.
They do raise concerns about my lifestyle though, especially STDs, and I appreciate that. I also told straight men friends and nothing has changed between us. I know they won't snitch on me because we have already proven each other to be able to respect private matters.
Basically I'm an anomaly. I have a welcoming and supportive right-wing environment for my sexuality, and despite the challenges I actually like myself for who I am. Never needed therapy or anything like that.
To me being right-wing is simply natural, I just can't bring myself to pretend about all the shit the left is concerned with right now. Basic gay rights is what I'm borrowing from that side and that's about it. This is why I'm a hypocrite I guess but I don't really care.
>I intend to continue the family line
Very fascinating. Most non-straights are left-leaning because either they had tolerant left-leaning parents or intolerant right-wing ones.
Makes sense that in your particular circumstances you'd end up right-wing. Environmental factors definitely matter, I don't think sexuality is set in stone the moment you're born either.
Oh my God shut the fuck up you mouse utopia pseud
Rod would classify you as AGP fetishist
I’ve never succeeding in dating women either, despite being attractive and well-endowed. I’ve never had a girlfriend, although I had a lot of hookups, all of which were while taking sarms/steroids to try to be a man, and I still had to take viagra/cialis to get hard with them. Sometimes I still wouldn’t be able to get it up. I only put myself through all of that out of internalized homophobia and desperately trying to fit in. I actually thought I had erectile dysfunction, but then I hooked up with a guy and I had no issues.
I like women in a similar way as how bisexual women do. Visually, the female figure can be aesthetically pleasing, but my desire is just to be cute with them. Lighthearted fun. Cuddling and stuff like that. I don’t have the typical male sexuality of dominating them, penetrating them, being aggressive and all that, that grosses me out. I get along better with women as friends and most guys can’t stand talking with women but I can do it all day and never get bored. I hated being seen as gay for so long but when I started to accept it I realized I really get along with girls and actually enjoy the “faghag” role. I wish I’d accepted myself sooner and didn’t try to force being sexual with them. I’d say, I’m more into guys bodies and girls personalities, as in it’s easier to be myself with girls and not worry about being bullied for being a homosexual like with men, but men are hot sexually, i love dicks of course but not only that, men are more lively and “active” in bed. It’s like the testosterone or something makes their movements more animated and unpredictable and it makes me more comfortable being receptive than awkwardly forcing myself into the active role.
Yeah, that's exactly the way I also like women myself. It's pretty interesting and thanks for that cause it's good to see someone with same kind of thoughts. I now feel I can understand that part about myself better.
I think my ultimate partner would be transbian top who is feminine, but that is like rarest of rare lol.
I’m glad it helped and it helps me feel less lonely too. Keep looking, don’t give up! This is why we have to be honest with others because you never know how common something is if everyone’s keeping it a secret, and then we’re all lonely for no reason! Sometimes it helps me to dissociate a little bit and think in a meta way like for example “i am a human living in the current year. Everything around me is happening in real time and i am observing it.” If that makes sense. It can help to realize that our experiences are real, and also not so extraordinarily unique as we think. And when we realize we aren’t uniquely weird, we aren’t alone, then we realize we have less to be afraid of.
He forgot the repressed right wing homosexual
Yeah true. He touched on it with homosexuals who remain as gay males instead of transitioning, but there are also homosexuals who remain as straight males instead of coming out, and right wing politics provides an easy cover.
New blanchard just dropped
Blanchardism with Flemmish characteristics
i am the i don't fucking care about your retarded shit type
still not attracted to kids to fit your absurdist schizophrenic ramblings, unironic pedo
Trying to be gay didn't work very well because gay guys thought I was too feminine.
I'm one of the very few people on the board who is truly a classic hsts