What language did R1b-L21 speak?

What language did R1b-L21 speak?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    something like proto-germano-italo-celtic however some people believe in an urnfield hypothesis so perhaps proto italo-celtic? it's funny how r1b-l21 turned out, its islander descendents ended up speaking celtic and so did continental r1b-l21 in italy, spain, and france (not the breton clade)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it really is almost 1:1 on how much r1b-l21 a pop has and how long their celtic language survived

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I am R1b-L21 Russian, can I LARP as a Celt or not?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You may have German or Armenian distant ancestor?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          96% East Slavic, 4% Scandinavian.
          I have yamnaya phenotype btw (black hair, brown eyes, swarthy skin).

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. Ireland is your spiritual homeland

        You may have German or Armenian distant ancestor?

        Armenians don't have L21

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why do only 1% Irish have celtic haplogroup U-152?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Because we wuz literally Atlantis refugees. This is why Celt languages have similarities with Semitic ones

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            redpill me on i2a2

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            looks vikang, or at least "foreign"

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Holdover from WHG which cucked the EEF that settled in the British isles. A lot of those burial mounds found all over the islands are dedicated to I2a2 kings

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Pure EEF never settled there. The farmers that came to Britain were I2. The replacement happened probably in North France or Belgium.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            EEF natives

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            In Pre-Roman Iron Age Britain (n=160) there is:

            R1b-L21 = 91 (56.9%)
            R1b-DF27 = 9 (5.6%)
            R1b-U152>L2 = 6 (3.8%)
            R1b-P312>Z30597 = 2 (1.3%)
            R1b-P312>L238 = 1 (0.6%)
            R1b-P312>S461 = 1 (0.6%)
            other R1b-P312 = 12 (7.5%) ----- includes samples with exact subclade not established
            R1b-U106>S264 = 1 (0.6%)
            R1b-L151>S1200 = 1 (0.6%)
            other R1b-L52 = 6 (3.8%) ----- includes samples with exact subclade not established
            R1b-M269>PF7562>Y83965 = 1 (0.6%)
            other R1b-M269 = 10 (6.3%) ----- includes samples with exact subclade not established
            other R1b-P297 = 1 (0.6%) ----- includes samples with exact subclade not established

            Total R1b = 142 (88.7%)

            I2a2a-M223 = 6 (3.8%)
            I2a1a-M26 = 2 (1.2%)
            G2a-L497 = 5 (3.1%)
            I1-M253 = 1 (0.6%)
            F = 4 (2.5%) ----- includes samples with exact haplogroup/subclade not established

            Total non-R1b = 18 (11.3%)

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Celts didn't have that much of a genetic impact on Ireland, the languages were either already being spoken over there or they were carried over by groups of Britons who were themselves not very celtic. By Celtic I mean related to Gauls in particular. Another option is the people who brought Celtic languages to the isles weren't very related to Gauls and Celt's Celts and were already very British looking and had minimal haplos that are uniquely Celtic if there even are any of those.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kek your ancestors were Alsatians buddy you got Volga'd

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >R-L151
      Proto-germano-italo-celtic single grave culture
      >R-P312
      very early proto-italo-celtic bell beaker
      >R-L21
      very early proto-celtic

      The caveat is that it is just an approximation. For example, there are probably numerous dead-end para-languages from the Beaker horizon, but we only have strong evidence for Italic and Celtic (who may have maintained a clade for quite some time).

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        In Pre-Roman Iron Age Britain (n=160) there is:

        R1b-L21 = 91 (56.9%)
        R1b-DF27 = 9 (5.6%)
        R1b-U152>L2 = 6 (3.8%)
        R1b-P312>Z30597 = 2 (1.3%)
        R1b-P312>L238 = 1 (0.6%)
        R1b-P312>S461 = 1 (0.6%)
        other R1b-P312 = 12 (7.5%) ----- includes samples with exact subclade not established
        R1b-U106>S264 = 1 (0.6%)
        R1b-L151>S1200 = 1 (0.6%)
        other R1b-L52 = 6 (3.8%) ----- includes samples with exact subclade not established
        R1b-M269>PF7562>Y83965 = 1 (0.6%)
        other R1b-M269 = 10 (6.3%) ----- includes samples with exact subclade not established
        other R1b-P297 = 1 (0.6%) ----- includes samples with exact subclade not established

        Total R1b = 142 (88.7%)

        I2a2a-M223 = 6 (3.8%)
        I2a1a-M26 = 2 (1.2%)
        G2a-L497 = 5 (3.1%)
        I1-M253 = 1 (0.6%)
        F = 4 (2.5%) ----- includes samples with exact haplogroup/subclade not established

        Total non-R1b = 18 (11.3%)

        Did Irish, Welsh, Gaulish, Breton, Iberian, Pictish, etc languages come from U152?
        or from L21?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I do not think we can know. There are some weird properties with Celtic (like it seeming to enter Ireland with close to zero genetic signal).

          It's possible it's from u152 directly or L21 adopted it from proximity with others. But at some point L21 predominantly spoke it.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >According to them Slavic came from R1b.
    >99% of all Slavic speakers are R1a.

    That's a no from me dog.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The R1b-L21 fears the U106

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      George Washington was L21 BVLL

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        so was Che Guevara

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Buml

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I am L21 from Italy, north east, specifically a rare clade downstream that only I have according to yfull, but that is because very few Italians do commercial genetic testing and most academic studies don’t do heavy downstream tests because of price. Around my area Slovenia seems to have a high presence of L21 as well as the Val Gardena in the Dolomites, which has around 30 % L21. According to mytrueancestry, my ancient relatives were mostly Gallo-romans, lombards, goths, and gepids.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So what's the best site to get tested in?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      For haplos it's ftdna

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