Capital G God: whatever the holy texts of the religion in question describes God as.
Smal g god: that's an extremely broad concept, pretty much any entity more powerful than humans can be considered a god. A sufficiently advanced alien could totally meat the definition of godhood.
“God” is made up by abrahamists so my definition of god is an aseitic omnipotent non-temporal entity because this definition puts all the absurdities of “god” front and center. If you want to know my definition of the highest metaphysical principle, then it is nothing more than the final concrescence of the all into one experience which is omnipresent because everything is in everything else and eternal because the end and the beginning are both present in every point between.
I didn't grt it, what are the absurdities of the Abrahamic God? And did you take this "highest metaphysical concept" from somewhere or came up with it by yourself?
> what are the absurdities of the Abrahamic God?
He violates causality and interdependence. No cause can be outside time and nothing is unpaused by everything else. Nothing can have power over everything else because everything is predetermined by something else. Nothing could have created the universe because the universe is eternal. > And did you take this "highest metaphysical concept" from somewhere or came up with it by yourself?
I made it up though it’s similar to other things
The thing that controls everyone else on earth and created this retarded world to abuse and dominate me through other people and who rapes my mind every second of every day then says retarded lies to try to justify it constantly like "I think I deserve it" when I obviously don't deserve it and he's a retarded disgusting sadist who is completely delusional and fixated on trying to present himself as "good" despite being a retarded disgusting evil piece of shit homosexual
God tries to make excuses for his behavior by telling retarded lies like "i think I deserve it" when he knows I genuinely believe that being the sole frame of reference for material reality and only persistently real person in the world means that I should be living a desirable life. I believe that even being forced to exist in a world at all means that I should be living a life that I would enjoy because that's the only way to justify forcing me to exist but I genuinely believe that being the only real person in reality means that I should have total control over my reality not just a desirable life.
I believe in the Holy Spirit more than anything. I believe Jesus Christ was a man who lived a perfect life, was filled with the Holy Spirit, and was God in the flesh, but the Holy Spirit is the one that I really “feel” if that makes sense.
You know when a wholesome or righteous thought pops into your head that clearly isn’t “you” speaking, but rather another voice in your head telling you the right or good thing to do? I feel like that’s God.
It’s extremely hard to explain because it’s more of a feeling than anything concrete.
Obviously they’re mine because they exist in my head, but there are different voices in my head. Not in a schizo way, but more of a “shoulder angel” and “shoulder devil” kind of way, to use a visual metaphor. I have my “own” more neutral thoughts that are definitely me, I have my negative or intrusive thoughts which can be quite evil, usually involving some kind of temptation or cruelty which I think the Bible describes as the “fiery darts” of the devil, and I have wholesome thoughts which are above mine, and represent some kind of higher good. Maybe things that are difficult or that I don’t want to do or don’t benefit me personally in any way, but that I can acknowledge as being “the right thing to do” or the thing that I “should” do. These I believe are divinely inspired, or “the Holy Spirit” speaking to me.
If you were mistaken about this not being a schizo thing.
How could you go about figuring it out?
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Anonymous
I think everybody has these thoughts or some version of this concept. Think of dialogue options in a video game.
Imagine walking past somebody on the street who needs help. My natural inclination which I feel is “me” might be to keep on walking. The more evil option, or the “fiery darts” might be the temptation to tell them “help yourself, loser” or something cruel, and the good option or “holy spirit” might be to stop what I’m doing even though it doesn’t benefit me and help them out.
I’m a lazy person, so my natural instinct is the path of least resistance, but you’re always faced with taking the good road or the bad road.
I feel like this is a normal thought process.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I guess what I’m describing is some kind of internal monologue. The bolt spirit isn’t an actual voice that I hear out loud, like a crazy person. It’s more the thought in my head telling me to choose the good thing.
Obviously they’re mine because they exist in my head, but there are different voices in my head. Not in a schizo way, but more of a “shoulder angel” and “shoulder devil” kind of way, to use a visual metaphor. I have my “own” more neutral thoughts that are definitely me, I have my negative or intrusive thoughts which can be quite evil, usually involving some kind of temptation or cruelty which I think the Bible describes as the “fiery darts” of the devil, and I have wholesome thoughts which are above mine, and represent some kind of higher good. Maybe things that are difficult or that I don’t want to do or don’t benefit me personally in any way, but that I can acknowledge as being “the right thing to do” or the thing that I “should” do. These I believe are divinely inspired, or “the Holy Spirit” speaking to me.
Does that make any sense?
I think everybody has these thoughts or some version of this concept. Think of dialogue options in a video game.
Imagine walking past somebody on the street who needs help. My natural inclination which I feel is “me” might be to keep on walking. The more evil option, or the “fiery darts” might be the temptation to tell them “help yourself, loser” or something cruel, and the good option or “holy spirit” might be to stop what I’m doing even though it doesn’t benefit me and help them out.
I’m a lazy person, so my natural instinct is the path of least resistance, but you’re always faced with taking the good road or the bad road.
I feel like this is a normal thought process.
God is evil and he exclusively says and does evil things. Every "evil" thought that comes to my mind is implanted by God, any "good" thought that comes to my mind is my default virtuous nature, neutral thoughts that come to my mind are mostly a result of trauma from God abusing me
As from a monotheist point of view, God doesn't *exist* , existence is God and existence is infinite. There nothing that existed "before" or without God so what has God made everything out of? Himself. Thats the ultimate proof of pantheism. Everything is the part of something larger than itself, except for God, he is the "whole". God is both the gardener and the garden. Especially because eventually the garden raises a new gardener that builds up the garden of his own and this process goes on forever.
What religious people call god is beyond definition and every definition that is upheld by a religion is effectively a false idol they worship in its stead
Ironicaly atheists are closer to 'knowing god' than religious people, unironically
So many people say that "it's a guy that controls everything" or an "transgender being that behind it all" while I doubt anyone really sees it this way in their head.
When you are truly trying to find out "what" something is, language becomes a more increasing problem the more abstract you go. There really should be a law against using every day language to describe anything besides the ground you walk so you don't fall and the food you eat so you don't starve, or at least a better language as a whole.
Looking back at the history of concept and word "god" you simply can't help but to notice how twisted and funneled it has become. Not without help of the church, where most "religion" haters seem to be attribute their distaste anyways, but also from the same droid that then eat whatever shit is currently a trend and then filter it through their retard box so it can be as useful to their pathetic copes about ones own incompetence.
But then there is also a field of psychology which seems to be shining light on that backdoor cellar of the collective human psyche that we used though our known history and reveals the thoughts themselves for what they truly are, without active personal suppression or intervention out of the above mentioned reason.
So tell me now, what are you expecting to be an answer for this question? One of the current month? One of the current millennia? One of those personal? One of linguistics? One of psychological? One of historical? Or one that seemingly combines them all, yet has absolutely no useful value? Or is it another ploy question, where the matter of the question is of the least importance in contrast to the value and quality of Input for reasons that is as genuine as the question therefore it self?
Deification of the not-yet-understood natural phenomena and societal cohesion mechanism. Back then human societies used to resort to politheistic interpretations of the universe as a way to make sense of the world. IE, Divine beings that made it rain, gods of agriculture, etc. When society came to understand and control to some degree natural phenomena, those type of gods were abandoned and Monotheism became the norm. Nowadays, we can even speak of «secularized» divinity, for example, in regards to contemporary worship of «Experts», those who have everything under control and onto which we project and deposit our subjective agency.
A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
The one who sits on the outside of this world looking in.
Is fundamentally non-human.
Knows.
The root of the tree.
The first node in a tree-structure.
Named as such not because it's the truth that you could apply to us all
(it isn't - though may at some point be our reward) - but because he is the root, and no other name will do.
That's a good question. "God" is the term employed to refer to a supernatural power. However, the term itself cannot be defined, for as soon as it is, it ceases to be a supernatural power. This is merely the consequence of our finite and fallible logic.
>However, the term itself cannot be defined, for as soon as it is, it ceases to be a supernatural power.
You are talking as if the concept of the thing were the thing itself
Also, >This is merely the consequence of our finite and fallible logic
So is the concept of God illogical to you?
> You are talking as if the concept of the thing were the thing itself.
The fact is that God is incomprehensible, and to define is to comprehend in some sense, so no comprehensible concept can give an exact definition of God. > So is the concept of God illogical to you?
It is logical in divine logic, but not in our finite and fallacious logic (where it is not illogical, but simply cannot be defined due to the lack of a divine syllogism).
>The fact is that God is incomprehensible, and to define is to comprehend in some sense, so no comprehensible concept can give an exact definition of God
So we don't know what we're talking about? We don't know what this word means? At least would you agree that it's s noun and not an adjective, which would make, for example (I don't know if you're Christian), the Trinity illogical? >It is logical in divine logic, but not in our finite and fallacious logic (where it is not illogical, but simply cannot be defined due to the lack of a divine syllogism).
What is the difference between divine logic and human logic? What even is divine logic at all?
> So we don't know what we're talking about?
Correct. The concept of God is a man-made term, and man is unable to describe the infinite and incomprehensible with his limited means. Any attempt to describe the infinite would be incomplete and self-contradictory, and yet the divine exists beyond our comprehension. > We don't know what this word means?
Compare it to ‟dark matter”: we know what the word means, but we don't know what it is. So it is a quasi-description, limited and ignorant of its true nature. > At least would you agree that it's s noun and not an adjective, which would make, for example (I don't know if you're Christian), the Trinity illogical?
I don't know about that. Christians believe in the Trinity, but how can we understand the nature of God in such fine detail? It may be impossible to reconcile the Trinity with the concept of the unity of God. However, the unity of God is also not guaranteed. > What is the difference between divine logic and human logic?
Divine logic is the realm of ultimate truths, while human logic is confined by reason and human constraints. The divine logic is always absolute, but the human logic is subjective and limited.
That which first set the universe into motion
this definition is compatible with atheism
Antitheism is God and Atheism is Satan
Capital G God: whatever the holy texts of the religion in question describes God as.
Smal g god: that's an extremely broad concept, pretty much any entity more powerful than humans can be considered a god. A sufficiently advanced alien could totally meat the definition of godhood.
Why does God backwards become Dog?
Dogs are God. Cats are Satan.
Cats are an anagram for Scat
G-D
8------D :DDDDD
BBC is God. BBC is the subsimation of all things.
Shall we say it lads?
The world began with BBC. The world will end with BBC.
“God” is made up by abrahamists so my definition of god is an aseitic omnipotent non-temporal entity because this definition puts all the absurdities of “god” front and center. If you want to know my definition of the highest metaphysical principle, then it is nothing more than the final concrescence of the all into one experience which is omnipresent because everything is in everything else and eternal because the end and the beginning are both present in every point between.
I didn't grt it, what are the absurdities of the Abrahamic God? And did you take this "highest metaphysical concept" from somewhere or came up with it by yourself?
> what are the absurdities of the Abrahamic God?
He violates causality and interdependence. No cause can be outside time and nothing is unpaused by everything else. Nothing can have power over everything else because everything is predetermined by something else. Nothing could have created the universe because the universe is eternal.
> And did you take this "highest metaphysical concept" from somewhere or came up with it by yourself?
I made it up though it’s similar to other things
Surah Ikhlas
God is what comes before everything else and is therefore what everything else is contingent on.
What makes you think there's a before everything else? Is there an after everything else too?
An entity that has total control over the set of all things including the ability to add and subtract whatever it wished from that set.
The thing that controls everyone else on earth and created this retarded world to abuse and dominate me through other people and who rapes my mind every second of every day then says retarded lies to try to justify it constantly like "I think I deserve it" when I obviously don't deserve it and he's a retarded disgusting sadist who is completely delusional and fixated on trying to present himself as "good" despite being a retarded disgusting evil piece of shit homosexual
>When I obviously don't deserve it
HHAHAHHAHHA
AAHAHHAHAHA
AHHH...
God tries to make excuses for his behavior by telling retarded lies like "i think I deserve it" when he knows I genuinely believe that being the sole frame of reference for material reality and only persistently real person in the world means that I should be living a desirable life. I believe that even being forced to exist in a world at all means that I should be living a life that I would enjoy because that's the only way to justify forcing me to exist but I genuinely believe that being the only real person in reality means that I should have total control over my reality not just a desirable life.
Everything. Put simply, God is.
this is also compatible with atheism
I believe in the Holy Spirit more than anything. I believe Jesus Christ was a man who lived a perfect life, was filled with the Holy Spirit, and was God in the flesh, but the Holy Spirit is the one that I really “feel” if that makes sense.
You know when a wholesome or righteous thought pops into your head that clearly isn’t “you” speaking, but rather another voice in your head telling you the right or good thing to do? I feel like that’s God.
It’s extremely hard to explain because it’s more of a feeling than anything concrete.
How did you figure out that "your" thoughts, was not your own?
Obviously they’re mine because they exist in my head, but there are different voices in my head. Not in a schizo way, but more of a “shoulder angel” and “shoulder devil” kind of way, to use a visual metaphor. I have my “own” more neutral thoughts that are definitely me, I have my negative or intrusive thoughts which can be quite evil, usually involving some kind of temptation or cruelty which I think the Bible describes as the “fiery darts” of the devil, and I have wholesome thoughts which are above mine, and represent some kind of higher good. Maybe things that are difficult or that I don’t want to do or don’t benefit me personally in any way, but that I can acknowledge as being “the right thing to do” or the thing that I “should” do. These I believe are divinely inspired, or “the Holy Spirit” speaking to me.
Does that make any sense?
If you were mistaken about this not being a schizo thing.
How could you go about figuring it out?
I think everybody has these thoughts or some version of this concept. Think of dialogue options in a video game.
Imagine walking past somebody on the street who needs help. My natural inclination which I feel is “me” might be to keep on walking. The more evil option, or the “fiery darts” might be the temptation to tell them “help yourself, loser” or something cruel, and the good option or “holy spirit” might be to stop what I’m doing even though it doesn’t benefit me and help them out.
I’m a lazy person, so my natural instinct is the path of least resistance, but you’re always faced with taking the good road or the bad road.
I feel like this is a normal thought process.
I guess what I’m describing is some kind of internal monologue. The bolt spirit isn’t an actual voice that I hear out loud, like a crazy person. It’s more the thought in my head telling me to choose the good thing.
Obviously meant to type “holy” spirit.
God is evil and he exclusively says and does evil things. Every "evil" thought that comes to my mind is implanted by God, any "good" thought that comes to my mind is my default virtuous nature, neutral thoughts that come to my mind are mostly a result of trauma from God abusing me
Are we God?
An Eternal Omnipotent Omniscient being who created the universe and everything it contains for the Israelites.
Some sort of creator force that exists beyond space and time.
As from a monotheist point of view, God doesn't *exist* , existence is God and existence is infinite. There nothing that existed "before" or without God so what has God made everything out of? Himself. Thats the ultimate proof of pantheism. Everything is the part of something larger than itself, except for God, he is the "whole". God is both the gardener and the garden. Especially because eventually the garden raises a new gardener that builds up the garden of his own and this process goes on forever.
Everything and nothing are the same thing, everything is fundamentaly nothing and everithing comes from nothing, the self is the no-one that is
What religious people call god is beyond definition and every definition that is upheld by a religion is effectively a false idol they worship in its stead
Ironicaly atheists are closer to 'knowing god' than religious people, unironically
God is my 2 foot long penis, which makes bitches cream themselves from the mere sight of its size and strength.
The first mover, or the uncaused cause, of the universe.
But anon, reality is fundamentaly noncausal, there is no first cause, it is lost beyond time
So many people say that "it's a guy that controls everything" or an "transgender being that behind it all" while I doubt anyone really sees it this way in their head.
When you are truly trying to find out "what" something is, language becomes a more increasing problem the more abstract you go. There really should be a law against using every day language to describe anything besides the ground you walk so you don't fall and the food you eat so you don't starve, or at least a better language as a whole.
Looking back at the history of concept and word "god" you simply can't help but to notice how twisted and funneled it has become. Not without help of the church, where most "religion" haters seem to be attribute their distaste anyways, but also from the same droid that then eat whatever shit is currently a trend and then filter it through their retard box so it can be as useful to their pathetic copes about ones own incompetence.
But then there is also a field of psychology which seems to be shining light on that backdoor cellar of the collective human psyche that we used though our known history and reveals the thoughts themselves for what they truly are, without active personal suppression or intervention out of the above mentioned reason.
So tell me now, what are you expecting to be an answer for this question? One of the current month? One of the current millennia? One of those personal? One of linguistics? One of psychological? One of historical? Or one that seemingly combines them all, yet has absolutely no useful value? Or is it another ploy question, where the matter of the question is of the least importance in contrast to the value and quality of Input for reasons that is as genuine as the question therefore it self?
God is beyond human made attributes or definitions, we can only say what God is not, not what God is
goodness.
MISERABLE. PILE. OF. SECRETS.
Deification of the not-yet-understood natural phenomena and societal cohesion mechanism. Back then human societies used to resort to politheistic interpretations of the universe as a way to make sense of the world. IE, Divine beings that made it rain, gods of agriculture, etc. When society came to understand and control to some degree natural phenomena, those type of gods were abandoned and Monotheism became the norm. Nowadays, we can even speak of «secularized» divinity, for example, in regards to contemporary worship of «Experts», those who have everything under control and onto which we project and deposit our subjective agency.
a perfect being, the answer to the question of why anything exists at all and why I am conscious
A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
The one who sits on the outside of this world looking in.
Is fundamentally non-human.
Knows.
The root of the tree.
The first node in a tree-structure.
Named as such not because it's the truth that you could apply to us all
(it isn't - though may at some point be our reward) - but because he is the root, and no other name will do.
The unended end.
The neverending "me me me me" story.
That's a good question. "God" is the term employed to refer to a supernatural power. However, the term itself cannot be defined, for as soon as it is, it ceases to be a supernatural power. This is merely the consequence of our finite and fallible logic.
>However, the term itself cannot be defined, for as soon as it is, it ceases to be a supernatural power.
You are talking as if the concept of the thing were the thing itself
Also,
>This is merely the consequence of our finite and fallible logic
So is the concept of God illogical to you?
> You are talking as if the concept of the thing were the thing itself.
The fact is that God is incomprehensible, and to define is to comprehend in some sense, so no comprehensible concept can give an exact definition of God.
> So is the concept of God illogical to you?
It is logical in divine logic, but not in our finite and fallacious logic (where it is not illogical, but simply cannot be defined due to the lack of a divine syllogism).
>The fact is that God is incomprehensible, and to define is to comprehend in some sense, so no comprehensible concept can give an exact definition of God
So we don't know what we're talking about? We don't know what this word means? At least would you agree that it's s noun and not an adjective, which would make, for example (I don't know if you're Christian), the Trinity illogical?
>It is logical in divine logic, but not in our finite and fallacious logic (where it is not illogical, but simply cannot be defined due to the lack of a divine syllogism).
What is the difference between divine logic and human logic? What even is divine logic at all?
it's a noun*
> So we don't know what we're talking about?
Correct. The concept of God is a man-made term, and man is unable to describe the infinite and incomprehensible with his limited means. Any attempt to describe the infinite would be incomplete and self-contradictory, and yet the divine exists beyond our comprehension.
> We don't know what this word means?
Compare it to ‟dark matter”: we know what the word means, but we don't know what it is. So it is a quasi-description, limited and ignorant of its true nature.
> At least would you agree that it's s noun and not an adjective, which would make, for example (I don't know if you're Christian), the Trinity illogical?
I don't know about that. Christians believe in the Trinity, but how can we understand the nature of God in such fine detail? It may be impossible to reconcile the Trinity with the concept of the unity of God. However, the unity of God is also not guaranteed.
> What is the difference between divine logic and human logic?
Divine logic is the realm of ultimate truths, while human logic is confined by reason and human constraints. The divine logic is always absolute, but the human logic is subjective and limited.
billionaire philanthropist
God = Death, can you name something more powerful?
Me.
"God" is a made up fantasy figure. According to mythology, this mystical sky wizard created the universe.
It's like Santa Claus, another mythical figure who apparently brings Christmas figure. But, just like God, he doesn't actually exist.
>who apparently brings Christmas figure
Should say "Christmas presents" of course, my brain just farted so I repeated a word
Death seems pretty awesome and terrible, you should try that.
>seething because i insulted your made up sky wizard
Why are LULZ's religious larpers so hilariously pathetic?
A being of necessary existence without which nothing else can exist
Christian deism