what's it called when you look in the mirror and realize that you are alive and that you are a real person. You realize that you are so real that you're actions causes effects in the world and that you are in this endless, unknown "space". It doesn't always happen in front of a mirror, it's just the place it happens most often
can be psychosis
or existential crisis
or both
its neither
right I should probably explain why its neither
while I do feel panicked when this occurs, if I calm myself down it feels as if I have become illuminated. Everything becomes much brighter, my mind and my mood much lighter and clearer, I almost feel like a kid again
however, it disappears quickly so I need to learn how to keep it going and what it is
do you use any drugs? weed, speed perhaps
It's not psychosis
Fuck up homosexual
>and that you are in this endless, unknown "space".
what?
you and me and everyone alive and dead exist within a vast, unknown space that extends far beyond our knowledge and our imagination.
no never
interesting. No idea then
oh. the OP is existentialism and the thing you just said now is subjectivism.
wtf are u talking abt? i'm not trying to debate philosophy.
...I answered your question
>what's it called when
Damn yall naggers are stupid
language please. be professional with how your treat others. and respect everyone.
okay, sorry
don't say sorry dumbass you can call me a nagger if u want fuckin nagger
its fine
oh i see sry I just have so many questions I forgot about that one
but no I'm not looking for any philosophical ideas that can be attached to this
I'm trying to figure out what's going on what's causing this
I guess we could boil potential causes down into two categories, psychological and physiological. psychological cause would be something like social isolation, physiological cause would be like weed, epilepsy, etc. there could be multiple factors causing this at once, both physiological and psychological.
well it sounds like neither so we're back to square one
how would something happening in your brain be neither physiological nor psychological? I haven't written off the possibility that you're crazy.
You've brushed up against the absurd, OP. Read Camus' Myth of Sisyphus.
we must imagine sissyphussy happy right? I don't care about philosophers. They just give their own ideas which lead nowhere. I'm not trying to debate philosophy here, anon
well, I know I'm not crazy but ofc you don't so just take my word for it or else we'll be here all night talking about me and I'd rather not do that. Really, there's only two options here it seems:
external- something beyond myself is allowing me to have this experience or it's triggering this experience
internal - something in my mind is causing me to experiece this which doesnt necessarily mean i'm crazy. if it is this option then i will have to somehow look inside there which i've no idea how to do and would welcome any suggestions. if it is external however, then it is either supernatural or some ordinary thing triggering it. I'm going to rule out the supernatural since that would lead nowhere so if it is external and ordinary then yeah idk what's causing it really i was thinking maybe its the act of staring at myself that's got my mind acting this way but this happens even without a mirror so idk got any ideas?
You have to look at how the brain works. I can elicit something in you psychologically like I'm doing right now by typing things to you, or I can elicit something in you physiologically like by drugging you. You can't experience me and not react. You're always experiencing the universe or you're dead.
The problem is like I said here
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>people with straight up schizophrenic hallucinations don't know what's happening in their brain because science hasn't fully explained schizophrenia. That's the human condition.
that's why people asked if you smoked weed because it would be a very obvious answer, but you said you didn't.
yeah I know about all that but do I really need to study the brain? neuroscientists would know the answers to my questions if that were the case but they don't probably I haven't checked and having said that I now realize that you're probably wondering why i'm asking LULZners and not neuroscientists. well, it's because it's anonymous and i'd just like some ideas that I may have not thought of myself if possible
no you need to be content not knowing why you felt a little bit different looking in the mirror or hit the books so you can be up to speed. the former will take a lot less energy and allow you to focus on other things.
yeah i supppose you're right
there's not much i can really do to find out so i'll ask one last question. any idea how I can make it last as long as possible.
I've gotta go to bed but to answer your question I'd have to make an assumption about what the state was. let's just consider the state a "upward mood spike" like a kind of subclinical hypomania that lasted a couple seconds. this is easy to imagine because you contrast the state with your usual feeling less good and less mentally acute. the solution to maintain a state closer to that would to be just be in a better mood. someone who really believes a lot in psychiatry would tell you to get antidepressants or ECT but I'm not that bluepilled about psychiatry.
tldr your brain farted and put you in a good mood for a couple seconds. to maintain something like that longer just do things that help your mood be up.
>just be in a better mood.
lmao it seems you've missed the point but thx for trying gn
Nah that's you. Everyone has responded aptly to your replies and I've personally changed my angle several times (for free). I can lead you to water but I can't make you drink.
you're focusing too much on the better mood aspect of this and recommending I go study neuroscience or smth and ignoring the other parts but it doesn't matter
have a good night anon I just wanted to see what random anons thought of this
I'm not literally telling you to be a neuroscientist. You can just do some Google research.
If you felt extraordinarily good and able to understand the universe that's like mania, in the neuropsychological sense. otherwise maybe a magic fairy sneezed special dust on you. maybe the dust was PCP.
When mood goes extraordinarily high you can get for lack of a better word transcendental thinking. That's why Donda was so good, because Kanye has been in mania for like years. You were for a couple seconds.
so you're saying I have mania? seems unlikely
I'll have to look that up but it sounds a bit out there
idk what donda is tho
wait so you're saying if I extend this further I'll end up like Kanye?
I meant mania in the neuropsychological sense. Like you might feel a sense of mania from gambling or driving really fast in a car while listening to music. That doesn't preclude mania in the psychiatric sense but that just isn't the sense I was using the word in.
>wait so you're saying if I extend this further I'll end up like Kanye?
you would maybe unlock creative and expressive potential. I don't think you'd be a famous musician or billionaire, because life is just not that favorable to people. There are a lot of people who can actually rap and make beats but get no notice, or only algorithmic notice like on TikTok.
it just occurred to me you may have meant end up like Kanye in terms of going insane. let's go with the coffee example from before. I felt like I was unlocking the secrets of the universe when I drank a quart of espresso but that doesn't mean I should drink a quart of espresso. it's not good for your psyche or heart to do that.
lmao yeah I was just abt to hit post respond to your last post but yeah that's what I meant about kanye xd
but no I will be pushing the limit even if it drives me insane
if coffee unlocks the secrets of the universe then obvs you should drink it it's not like you've much to lose in comparison
godspeed
thx anon
I will drink the coffee and I will travel at godspeed and I will go even further beyond
gn
yeah something like that but more intense like I wouldn't just be staring blankly at the mirror but would be shocked by just how intense it is and my mind itself would change as I described in the OP
gotta give some cred to the people talking about philosophy even though you're saying you just want to know what's happening in your brain. people with straight up schizophrenic hallucinations don't know what's happening in their brain because science hasn't fully explained schizophrenia. That's the human condition.
the people saying to read Camus are kind of on point. he's considered a classic existentialist. Existentialism relates to your realization of "damn we exist."
Nietzsche would be a good example
of subjectivism. When you say we can't know things about the universe because our perspective is limited to
our own subjective viewpoint that's very similar to what Nietzsche thought. He studied philosophy in nineteenth century Germany and basically came to the conclusion nothing can be objectively known.
All of these people were a bit disturbed and weird in the head. So is everyone, to an extent.
and i'm sure if i read all their books i would be lead down a path to nowhere thus changing absolutely nothing and talking about philosophy here would definitely be a waste of time so while I appreciate the effort it is a waste
Yeah I don't think that reading a book will necessarily make your neurochemistry better though there's a considerable chance it would. Somewhere in this thread you said this state felt good, so I'm not sure why you're conceptualizing it as a problem. you're giving these philosophers a run for their money in terms of meandering. I answered the question in your OP but you had already forgotten about it by then.
well the problem is it doesn't last long and when it goes away i'm left back in my much slower more confused state of mind (not crazy tho just not as good) so i'd like to know how to keep it going
a lot of people feel kind of lethargic and foggy. if you tell a doctor you feel lethargic and foggy but can't describe any other problems (failing classes, oversleeping, fighting with wife) they'll just tell you to go home. they might even say "yeah I also feel like that every day."
hmm yeah less lethargy would help but it doesn't really answer any of the questions above like why specifically it feels as if I can comprehend the entire universe even though I obviously can't or the weird mindbending nature of this experience but whatever I'm probably not gonna get any answers after this so I'll probably just end the thread here
sounds like me after I mistook espresso for normal coffee. I think your brain just did a fart and accidentally made you feel good.
It's called depersonalization. How the fuck did none of you retards say this yet?
naggers after reading dissociative disorder top 10 list @retard.com. not everyone falls under textbook definitions.
>You realize that you are so real that you're actions causes effects in the world and that you are in this endless, unknown "space"
>depersonalization
Isn't this adjacent but kinda opposite.
Op ain't just observing himself, but more like realize he is there and it's a real deal. Some kind of abstraction of the self, not in a dreamy way tho, but in a awaked way
>You realize that you are so real that you're actions causes effects
It's called realizing you should have stayed in school until you learned the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE.