What is the psychosexual explanation for trans-attracted men, beyond the "monkey brain sees dick + tits and gets excited" meme?

What is the psychosexual explanation for trans-attracted men, beyond the "monkey brain sees dick + tits and gets excited" meme? Has anyone deeply studied the social and emotional aspects in the context of the culture?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are a million different reasons, it practically varies from person to person

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most guys into trannies wouldn't be attracted to the (cis female if I remember correctly) person in your pic.
    And personally I'm Lawful Evil.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Better alignment

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        most of those apply to me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Rocktra_

        The psychosexual explanation would be that your mom weaned you too early and your dad was absent when you were a kid but I don't think that is really an explanation

        That's not a joke one like mine tho

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >your mom weaned you too early
          Breastfed until I was four
          >your dad was absent when you were a kid
          Nope

          it's not funny

          OP's ends with a joke on each line and has the funniest joke at the end.

          Mine isn't a joke

          • 3 weeks ago
            Rocktra_

            >Breastfed until I was four

            >The infant who is neglected (insufficiently fed) or who is over-protected (over-fed) in the course of being nursed, might become an orally-fixated person. This fixation might have two effects: (i) the neglected child might become a psychologically dependent adult continually seeking the oral stimulation denied in infancy, thereby becoming a manipulative person in fulfilling their needs, rather than maturing to independence; (ii) the over-protected child might resist maturation and return to dependence upon others in fulfilling their needs.

            I don't think this is true tho but would be the explanation

            >Mine isn't a joke
            its not as fun

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't have an oral fixation and have been independent for a decade. Actually I find the idea of sucking dick repulsive.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Rocktra_

                It'd probably be the same explanation for why you're manipulative or a broken person or something, but most chasers are interested in the penis

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No I don't think it has much to do with anything. If I had to go deep on it I'd wager that it has to do with my father being abusive towards my mother, leading my brothers to go after women they thought they could fix. Seeing women use men. The idea is probably that trans women have something apparently wrong with them that isn't a personality disorder. Also they can't get pregnant which aleviates a lot of trust issues.
                Regardless of all that I've always thought "chicks with dicks" were hot since the days of meatspin and linetrap and I'm pretty sure most men feel the same but won't admit it and have no reason to.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Rocktra_

                Yeah I would probably agree that it likely has more to do with your relationship with women outside of infancy in your life as well as porn. I don't agree with freudian psychosexual development.

                Tho I do have an oral fixation, and I was a poor potty-trainer & now I'm disorganized. So that's something.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Regardless of all that I've always thought "chicks with dicks" were hot since the days of meatspin and linetrap and I'm pretty sure most men feel the same but won't admit it and have no reason to.

                Dicks are interactive and erotic; but admitting it is tantamount to giving up your masculinity for some guys. If the LGBT "community" didn't have a cultural hold on the idea of femme guys I think it would be more normalized. Not just ottermode twinks but men of all shapes, ages, and sizes. For guys like me, preferably with muscles

                My personal theory is that the genders have become so divided lately that some men seek transwomen traps and femboys for female bodied companionship that is psychologically compatible with male thinking.

                >some men seek transwomen traps and femboys for female bodied companionship that is psychologically compatible with male thinking.

                Guys were doing that as far back as the Greeks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            meme warfare isn't just a joke. If it isn't funny it's not convincing propaganda.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's not funny

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        OP's ends with a joke on each line and has the funniest joke at the end.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chaotic good

        Most guys into trannies wouldn't be attracted to the (cis female if I remember correctly) person in your pic.
        And personally I'm Lawful Evil.

        Lawful neutral

        Most guys into trannies wouldn't be attracted to the (cis female if I remember correctly) person in your pic.
        And personally I'm Lawful Evil.

        >Most guys into trannies wouldn't be attracted to the (cis female if I remember correctly) person in your pic.

        OP here, I think the people I'm most attracted to are roided out androgynous women who can pass for being trans and girly androgynous guys/trans women, but there's a lot of overlap between the two.

        The psychosexual explanation would be that your mom weaned you too early and your dad was absent when you were a kid but I don't think that is really an explanation

        That's not a joke one like mine tho

        >The psychosexual explanation would be that your mom weaned you too early and your dad was absent when you were a kid

        Ohhh fuck. That's literally what happened to me except my dad wasn't completely absent. I only had biweekly visits with him and then he died when I was in middle school.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >infertility
        Never realized how much this played into my sexual interests until I saw this.
        Why is infertility so sexy? There's something hot about a male turning so feminine (or a female turning so masculine) and "ruining" themselves to the point of destroying what nature intended for them to do as a living organism: reproduce. Their new and improved, happier, sluttier version of themselves goes against millions of years of evolution.
        Maybe it's because if someone is cumming while not being able to impregnate/be impregnated, it means they are having sex for one thing only: pleasure. It's returning to base instincts while rejecting the reason those base instincts exist in the first place, just so you can fuck and orgasm as much as you want with no consequences.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know about all of that I just like that I don't have to worry about a tranny lying about going off the pill so that they can lock me down with a child because they had a bpd episode

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I just like that I don't have to worry about a tranny lying about going off the pill so that they can lock me down with a child because they had a bpd episode

            Same

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thinking that every person's "purpose" is to breed is a dogma that only feeds the state war machine. Nobody has a purpose, human relationships and roles are more complicated than that. People just are

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        neutral good? really? a man who thinks like that is a disgusting pig who thinks he will have an easier deal with a girl who thinks she cant demand as much. trans girls are no easy mode dating, you have to treat women right or God puts you in hell.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The belief can come from experience or misconception or just general compatability. It's not about thinking a girl will be easier but rather that she will be a better mach, whether that be because of shared interests, more affection or trans women usually being more serious as partners. I would categorize what you're saying under desperate because it is someone who wants trans women because they're supposed to be easy.
          The way I tried to make the chart work was that lawful - chaotic represents sexualization while good - evil represents intention. Lawful good for example has no inherent sexualization and entirely pure intentions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a mix of lawful good, maybe a tiny bit of chaotic good and neutral evil, the last one being something tranners who chased me put in my mind and i'm just stuck with it now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CN here

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My personal theory is that the genders have become so divided lately that some men seek transwomen traps and femboys for female bodied companionship that is psychologically compatible with male thinking.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is literally it. Its why the most masculine dom men are always into tranns

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Penises are positive reinforcement.

    >hard tranny dick
    >"wow this chick isn't faking it, she's actually horny and wants me to fuck her"
    >cums
    >"wow didn't even fake that orgasm. I know that even if my dick didn't deliver 100% that she still felt good for at least a moment."

    A lot easier to fake with a vag. And if you're wondering, I'm a chaser (top). I've fucked like 15 mtfs. They all got hard and either came or shot clear liquid. A few girls had actually really far cumshots.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Porn sites started spamming futa ads about 10 years ago. You couldn't access straight porn without seeing ads for futa. It tapped into something in men's brains, the attraction to the female body, but with male genitalia.
    >Has anyone deeply studied the social and emotional aspects in the context of the culture?
    Financial grants are provided by governments or corporations. The only result either if them want is a normalization of trans people, with an emphasis on trans children. I doubt you could find a team of researchers willing to study the topic you're interested in.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As a person who grew up in preteen years consuming transporn, it's a mix of commitment of a transperson to take that step for transition (pretty or not) and the penis acting a pleasure indicator. It has also been my largest turn on that a feminine desire towards me be as intense as a male/chaser's. I genuinely find it hard to believe a cis woman would go through hell to make me hers. It's sort of a swap of the damsel in distress with a female being on the verge of death just to own you, except with them having a cock it now makes sense to me.

    Transmen I don't find hot.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trans-attracted men are proto trannies.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26498424/

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