What is the highest art form? What criteria do we use to determine that?
What is the highest art form? What criteria do we use to determine that?
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is that supposed to be architecture in F tier
Oh that's what it is. I wasn't sure what the masonic square and compass was implying. I would rank architecture somewhere between S and A. Great architecture is of course utterly magnificent to behold but I tend to think of the best art being the work of a singular author rather than a collaborative effort.
it's a tragedy how many expo buildings got demo'd
We don't make S or A building anymore. it goes in the middle, fag.
Oh are we going by only the stuff created nowadays? Then literature should be in f tier as well.
who can even tell any of these people apart.
I'm was in the top 1% of Twice listeners in 2020
when i first heard about k-pop and j-pop "storming the nation" i thought it would be a quick fad that died out really fast, and that only weebs would listen to it.
I was 100% right.
How do Japanese people know someone is more good looking then another among 2 good looking people? They look the same. Do they start autistically breaking down their faces?
only 3 of them are japanese. Momo, Sana, and Mina.
You can't tell the difference because you are not asian yourself dumbass. Why the fuck do I have to explain this to you?
Tzuyu should be at the top.
>9 identical faces ranked
Painting is obviously the highest art form. Picture related, it's Mark Zuckerberg painted with faeces.
I don't know why I laughed so hard at this post. It's just the most classically LULZ thing I've seen in a while. Brilliant.
It doesn’t look like poop. Also he looks human in this painting
That's because even a painting made of feces has more soul than Zuckerberg
Well it is poop,you nincompoop.
it's literature for sure
Without a doubt Music is the highest. It's within reach of every emotion without being tied to something as inflexible as language.
It's the most transcendent form.
Music is the most boring art form with the fewest possibilities for creative expression.
How do you think people would feel about painting if ALL painting was abstract painting? It would suck, right? That’s exactly the situation that music is in. ALL music is abstract because it has no capacity to represent.
People rightly shit on abstract art in other media but for some reason they give music a pass.
video games (obviously) I don't have to explain why (because it obvious) so tell me why you think I'm wrong
I love sculptures as much as the next guy, but films should be higher than it. Films can express more artistic abilities and storytelling while also having the benefit of being the second best collaborative art form. Also, music is 100% S tier. It's arguably the greatest art form humanity has. Anyone who doesn't put in the top 3 art forms is a pretenious loser
He’s right. Music makes anyone feel something
put video games in F tier or lower
>What is the highest art form?
Warfare
>What is the best flavor? What criteria do we use to determine that?
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Tier S: Literature (includes written plays)
Tier A: Painting
Tier B: Sculpture
Tier C: Film, music and games
Tier D: Theater (performed) and comics
They're all good though.
JAV is the highest art form
>watching porn
kys
JAV is beyond mere porn amerimaricon
I'd put music and architecture in S tier.
I think the fact that they can convey emotions rather subtly, yet serve a purpose. And often not need a written or spoken language to be understood to experience it, makes it's appeal more universal.
Only one I think is objectively weak is photography, since it is really a capture of what exists rather than creating it.
That said, the quality of art depends far more on the artist than the art form.
I'm going to make a flow chart of sorts for everyone
The written word is included in video games
Drawings are included in video games
Theatrical performances and acting is included in video games
Music and soundtracks are included in video games
Pictures are included in video games
Architecture is included in video games (Level design, models)
Movies & TV shows have all of these things but cannot be interacted with
Video games have all of this things and can be interacted with
Video games are interactive movies with all forms of media included in them
Video games are the highest form of art
Boom, and yes there are bad and good video games, but the best video games out there beat all other forms of art because they simply include all forms of art in them. They are in fact, the deepest simulation of life.
They don’t include them all in a way that can be properly appreciated. They include them in the same way an amusement park ride includes them.
I'm always amazed by how many people on this website genuinely, unironically try to claim that video games are a high art form
Video games have an advantage over most art forms
Games are alive, while they are dead
Games aren't art. They're interactive challenges designed around player input. They don't exist solely for aesthetic contemplation like all other art forms do.
Games can incorporate many elements of fine art, like great storytelling, music, visual design, etc., but as a medium they cannot ever be art unless they were to be stripped of their interactive challenge aspect.
Would you consider sports an art?
How about warfare?
And if not, why not?
Certainly not by the strict definition of art. One can speak figuratively of the 'art of war' or 'art of the game' etc. but clearly we're not speaking about works of art created for the sole purpose of aesthetic contemplation, now are we?
To the player or warrior, no. To the spectator, maybe. Overall, no.
As someone who does martial arts as a sport, no. Sports are not art.
Warfare is not art.
This
is accurate.
>They don't exist solely for aesthetic contemplation like all other art forms do
You don't know enough games. Yes, many indie games were created solely for aesthetic contemplation. And then you have visual novels which are just choose your own adventure books without the paper.
i think some of them are ironic
Videogames have the potential to be the absolute highest for of art because it makes use of all other forms of art. Of course capitalism fuck everything up, so there is no chance we get to see this for now.
Video games and literature in top tier because those require user interaction to keep the story moving forward
Everything else is bottom to mid tier because all you're doing is sitting on your little cuck chair staring like a beta as the action unfolds before you
>writing and painting are S tier
>put them together to get comics
>suddenly F tier
How?
>What is the highest art form? What criteria do we use to determine that?
The criteria for determining art is transmissibility, durability and relatability.
Music from thousands of years ago is barely heard and barely listened to. Musical instruments from thousands of years ago are rarely reconstructed or played or studied. So music doesn't go in S tier.
This is the comprehensive art tier ranking:
S tier- literature (including plays), architecture and sculpture
A tier- classical music (all traditions, not exclusively western) and calligraphy
B tier- textiles, painting, comics and interior decorating
C tier- film, folk music, verbal jokes
F tier- pop music, stand up comedy, animated cartoons
Games, including video games, are toys and not art.
>Games, including video games, are toys and not art.
This man speaks according to the objective truth.
>Games, including video games, are toys and not art.
by this logic shakespeare is a toy and public theatre is not art
?
Shakespeare plays are not video games. They can be read by yourself, with a group, and performed on an actors' stage, translated into other languages and recorded, replayed in audio or video. Video games require electronics and computers, and almost nobody played video games until the 1990s and almost all video games become outdated a few years after release.
And video games still aren't art, chess isn't art either.
Videogames are just interactive movies, baka. Is film is art videogames are art.
>Viruses are art
>Comics over animation
You fucking retard.
The only thing wrong with this image is that POW needs to be in S tier.
Being a writer director is possibly the most cognitively demanding/well rounded art. But these are usually only the top filmmakers.
I don’t consider games to be art.
>What is the highest art form?
cinema
More specifically, cinema that depicts conventionally attractive women forcing men to lick their assholes.
nature is the highest form of art
this is the worst picture of that place I have ever seen
Music because it’s the only art that’s escapes the eye.
Photography should be F tier. Shit art form. It's just wandering around mechanically capturing something that already exists. What's left is a shadow of reality that's been severed from the context it existed in. At least something like painted landscapes require human interpretation and skill. And no pointing a camera doesn't count as human interpretation and neither does fucking with lighting values in Photoshop. There are very few truly good photographs and even the best cannot invoke half the feeling and meaning that other art forms can.
> It's just wandering around mechanically capturing something that already exists
That’s just natural photography. The other side of photography deals with scene manipulation, lighting, color correcting, etc.
>Architecture
S tier. Nothing has a bigger impact on the mind and spirit than the surroundings of a person
>Music
S tier. Music is condensed emotion, it's downright magical
>Interactive art
S tier. I'm talking about things like ceremonies, traditions, processions. If you've never been involved in a religious ceremony, you have no idea how powerful it feels, how meaningful it can be. Most religions survive off the strength of these traditions, that alone tells you enough. This tier could also include e.g. sports and video games, but I'll exclude them since it's complicated
>Literature
A tier. I agree with Plato, the written word has many flaws. Knowledge does not exist unless it's carried around in a person's head, and many books fail to adequately convey their ideas due to poor communication. But literature's ability to preserve knowledge is unbelievable, easy A tier on that alone. Prose is also still an underdeveloped art form.
>Spoken Word (Orally transmitted culture)
A tier. This goes above literature for me. The downside of books is 99% of their contents are superfluous, while spoken word naturally filters out all the junk and leaves behind pure substance and what matters. Humans also tend to remember what they're told by other people way better than what they learn from a book. This includes not just myths or legends but folk tales, idioms, jokes, accents, etc.
>Drama / Opera / Film
A tier. They're in the same tier because they're essentially the same. At its best, they can become a Gesamtkunstwerk which has in theory more potential than any other art form. The issue with this class, generally, is the more factors you have to account for, the harder it is to make sure they all align correctly. When it goes well, it can change your life, but when done poorly, it's still pretty entertaining.
>Visual Arts
B tier. I'm always skeptical of visual arts since they tend to shift our focus away from reality, whereas the other art forms tend to enhance reality. Visual arts exist as a kind of spectacle unto themselves, they cast a kind of hypnosis spell on people, and unless a society uses them correctly, it often leads to bad things
Filmed has surpassed Gesamtkunstwerk
Look up the meaning of that word
Poo is the highest form of art and you can't prove me wrong.
Gay porn
Music is the best.
Yea but Frank Zappa sucks.
cinema is better than literature
The greatest movies are inferior to the greatest books.
no. tarkovsky, bergman, bresson, ozu, cassavetes, etc. mog most great books.
where do you think they stole their fucking ideas for plots from? Movies don't even work the brain.
not every director stole from books. in someone like tarkovksy or bresson's case they greatly improved upon original material.
Not true, esp. not Ozzzu. The Divine Comedy and Orlando Furioso are already worth more than all you mentioned.
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You don't get that from reading, or even playing videos games which is F tier if you even consider it art at all.
3000 years vs 100 years. The cinematic canon is impressive taking that into account
Everyone knows this is false.
Most people don't read books. But literally nobody reads movies.
I'm probably alone here but I'm certain at some point video games (or VR) will surpass all art forms. It'll become indistinguishable from reality and will be limited only to the creator's imagination. Imagine being fully immersed in Resident Evil or a World War 2 game. Even in literature the creator could create a first-person perspective narration of Crime and Punishment. That'll be the beginning of the end though.
Cinema ranks high, but it's because I don't watch shit.
Poetry, honestly. Including some song lyrics. They are the only medium which can actually make you think about ideas on top of being moving and evocative. With other artforms it's one or the other, or neither. Literature comes second, of course.
Cinema, because it incorporates all the other arts.
Much of cinema is banal, but that is only because it is so difficult to master as a medium. Everything must be perfect, from the writing to the production to the acting to the cinematography.
It's much easier to create a perfect poem or a perfect piece of music than a perfect film.
Hence, cinema is the highest and hardest to master of all the artforms.
Hot take: monopoly is art because it was created to illustrate the concept of capitalism. The goal of the game is not to have fun but to think.
>all these manchildren defending cinema
Film peaked with German Expressionism. Metropolis is the greatest film of all time. It's all been downhill from there.
>thinking films are good
They suck bro.
At least books stop your brain from decaying too much.