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What is the LULZ consensus on AWS?

What do you guys think about it? Is it worth learning? Is it a good thing or bad thing? What cloud services are better?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's Azure.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Azure is better. No reason to use AWS when everyone's already got an azure tenant for 0365

      this is the same guy KEK, it's so obvious

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only one person on LULZ can like azure
        Shut the fuck up homosexual.

        the only reason azure exists is that 365 runs on top of it. azure is literally the worst of the 3 major platforms, even google is better than azure and google is fucking horrible. aws is king, has been the entire time "cloud" has been around. no one can beat it. it has the best services, the best api, and the best stability

        Citation newer than 2014 needed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/kfXg2JI.jpg

      What is the LULZ consensus on AWS?

      What do you guys think about it? Is it worth learning? Is it a good thing or bad thing? What cloud services are better?

      >user count did not increase

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's cheap

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Azure is better. No reason to use AWS when everyone's already got an azure tenant for 0365

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the only reason azure exists is that 365 runs on top of it. azure is literally the worst of the 3 major platforms, even google is better than azure and google is fucking horrible. aws is king, has been the entire time "cloud" has been around. no one can beat it. it has the best services, the best api, and the best stability

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        calm down jeffery

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you can't call out my shitty knockoff cloud for what it is
          kek

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            am i in the kinesis pipeline jeff?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >even google is better
        *kills your instances and refused to elaborate why*

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn't understand the world cloud and how to architect for it
          KEK are you even in tech?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How do you architect for a cloud service killing your instances and refusing to create new ones and not answering your support e-mails? Go on, do tell.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >How do you architect for a cloud service killing your instances
              very easily, if you used any cloud and actually had even a month of training you'd understand how to do this, fucking unskilled loser neet
              >and refusing to create new ones
              what the fuck are you talking about? clouds don't refuse to make new servers you absolute homosexual liar
              >and not answering your support e-mails
              imagine needing to contact support, but yes if you pay them they respond, there are 3 support tiers. are you really this incompetent? i don't even believe you can be this incompetent, you are definitely a fucking liar, and a homosexual, that i know for absolute certainty

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >very easily
                I mean yes, the answer is you don't use Google Cloud.
                >what the fuck are you talking about?
                You've clearly never worked with GCP. And it shows. There's plenty of horror stories of them on the internet, and I've seen it in person. You can believe whatever you want but it won't change that Google can and sometimes will fuck you over for no reason at all and will put you on hold forever. Google is literally notorious for this bullcrap.
                >imagine needing to contact support
                When your instances are being killed off without a way to bring them back yes, you absolutely need to contact support. What else are you going to do? Other than switch to a better cloud service, I mean.

                Are you an undergrad trying to get a job at Google or something? There's no way a normal person would chimp out like this lmao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I mean yes, the answer is you don't use Google Cloud.
                i never said you should, i use aws, and it's all i'll ever use. aws just works.
                >You've clearly never worked with GCP. And it shows.
                wrong, homosexual, i have, and it's shit, which is again why i only use aws. why do you think i use gcp? anyone who uses gcp is a homosexual. are you even replying to the right anon?
                >When your instances are being killed off without a way to bring them back yes
                why would this ever happen? how can you be so incompetent to have this happen? i use aws, this doesn't happen.
                >you absolutely need to contact support. What else are you going to do? Other than switch to a better cloud service, I mean.
                never contacted aws support once because im not incompetent like you, you dumb indian
                >Are you an undergrad trying to get a job at Google or something? There's no way a normal person would chimp out like this lmao.
                you keep talking about google, but i don't use google. are you even replying to the right anon? do you think there's only one anon in this thread or something?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You told him to architect a solution for something that only happens on Google because it's shit and barely functions. You both agree you fucking dumb cunts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      azure is dogshit and only exists because useless megacorps with garbage software are already in bed with microsoft

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Give a single reason beyond someone told you so homosexual

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because aws is the best cloud out there, give us a reason why we should even bother using azure.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you looked at it recently? It's infinitely better than even a few years ago. Most of the services are identical, many real world clients find that the Azure AD integration as a major selling advantage, once you start adding shit like Sentinal it's just easier to have everything in the same place when you aren't giving anything up to achieve it. Might be subjective but the portal is also better. They're both fairly equal now and bullshit aside calling it dogshit just tells me you've not used in 5 years

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              azure's tooling is nice and their docs are good and it smells less of curry than AWS

              however, azure is expensive and the amount of shit M$ wants to sell you/get you locked-into expands to fill the space you give it.

              if your org uses MS stuff already, especially SharePoint and/or other 365, get a good architect who ISN'T azure certified and tell him to spec out something on azure. That's how you end up with a good system. If you hire an azure architect you're going to end up using every azure service that exists, it will be impossible to refactor anything to use any alternative service, and you'll have a million dollar invoice.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah the trick is to migrate their on prem stuff into azure to get them in the door then start upselling

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Prices only going up, not down. Seen way too many small/mid size businesses get played by consultants to “upgrade their infrastructure to the cloud” and watch it bomb, pissing money down the drain. Pushing it as turn key set and forget is laughable, it’s a con game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is it better to go through the pain of self hosting your own hardware somewhere other than these cloud fuckers.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It usually does cost them more but once they're in there's room to move things to paas etc and ultimately save money. Most of these companies are running old cobbled together vmware environments desperately needing upgrades to infra and disaster recovery.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and it smells less of curry than AWS
                dunno what this means but aws is vastly superior
                >if your org uses MS stuff already
                it doesn't, microsoft is complete and utter shit and i avoid it like the plague

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AWS started smelling of curry 5 years ago (web interface retardation, stupid doc bullshit, jeet certs) but it is still by far the best one

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and their docs are good
                Now I know you are lying. I regularly run into docs that are straight up wrong.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you have literally not mentioned a single reason why someone should use azure over aws, you just gave me a bunch of vague opinions like "it's so much better". ok, what is better on it than aws and why?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You did the same when I asked you first so get your cock out of your ass homosexual. It's so much better is hyperbole because you're being a homosexual calling it dogshit. It has the advantage of azure ad being native, other than that they do the same shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they do the same shit.
                >yet almost no one uses them
                >mmmm yeah must be exactly the same mmmm
                KEK, ok sure non tech homosexual

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally look up the growth rates and market share of both you dumb cunt. You've clearly never worked with either in any real capacity. Kill yourself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek i work with all 3, azure is fucking diarrhea doo doo bloody bitch abortion TRASH

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you don't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i work with all 3
                >No you don't.
                ???????????????????????????????????

                Something 92% of LULZ are NEETs, so statistically they are correct.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i work with all 3
                >No you don't.
                ???????????????????????????????????

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's actually pretty common to host across multiple availability zones per service, across multiple services. it's not only good for reliability, it's also good for contract negotiations because you can drive your traffic to the provider down to 10% to show them you can walk.

                the only exception for us is our internal tooling which all lives in aws us-east-1 because our infrastructure team is a forest fire colliding with a city dump.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I work with Azure every day, and I would rather use AWS as it was 5 years ago. Azure is complete and utter garbage, incorrectly documented, there's no community support, and it literally gives you incorrect information at times, like number of nodes in a node pool in AKS.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >useless megacorps
        your government?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well it makes sense to learn if you want a job, although after you got the job you might want to learn how to make a proper nose.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's so omnipresent that even if we dislike it, we'll encounter it at least once our careers.
    It's cheap but also expensive if you're retarded, and the UI is kinda bloat. Also tons of services that you don't know or give a shit about.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is far and away the best cloud platform and it's not close. Azure and GCP shills are just coping hard because they run tiny bumfuck websites that no one uses.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about digitalocean and heroku?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are great for small/personal or freelancing projects. For big bucks aws, azure or gcp.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          gcp?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Google cloud platform

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Black Rock, Walmart, and McDonalds run on azure kike

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll repeat
        > websites no one uses

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        who the fuck uses the mcdonalds website, lmao
        can you order online?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the only people who even eat mcdonalds are little kids and really old people. actual people who value health don't eat it because it' not even food, it's literally diarrhea that looks like food

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i am the mcdonalds fucking police. and youre a moron.
            you dont even know why mcdonalds sucks.
            it sucks because its just a bunch of bread and meat. what kind of stupid bitch eats meat regularly and then shits on tasty convenient meat from someplace else?
            meat is literal dog food. do you actually understand this?
            do you understand its molecular composition?
            do you even know how proteins work?
            you think you are eating some full spectrum "complete" protein shit, when in fact you are just a moron eating peasant food. you dont even understand how much of this so called protein spectrum is incompatible garbage. but also, look at the fucking meat. its a pile of gelatinous chemically unstable shit. this doesnt seem like something which is not completely foul and toxic to ingest. what happens when meat starts to rot, you fucking moron? look at it.
            you think the flavor tastes good and for the most part it does but its only because of highly specialized breeding or because there is plenty of delicious shit inside of it which is 100% not meat. such as salt or anything else.

            your stupid ass oral fixation of meat is nothing but a wired dope fix coupled with nagger-ignorance.
            so go eat for fancy specialty cut beef and dont forgot to take your pretty little homosexual picture of it and post on redd.it before talking shit about mcdonalds. you hypocritical pretentious bitch

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              [co(pe]do)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nice schizo post 8/10

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            True. Most Americans have moved on from McDonalds to Starbucks for their goyslop.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I guarantee you those 3 companies have products on every cloud.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, Walmart probably doesn't. A lot of Amazon competitors have a company wide policy to never give a dime to Amazon and refuse to use AWS.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you shouldn't give a dime to amazon because.....BECAUSE YOU JUST SHOULDN'T!!!! OK?!?!?!!?
            kek, fartshart is butthurt that amazon kicks their ass in competition

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The example code for AWS services is painfully slow. When your first introduction to the system has 800ms penalties for trivial queries it suddenly starts making 210% sense why all AWS hosted websites are trashfires. You can't blame bad devs when it's rotten from the core.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The example code for AWS services is painfully slow
      describe in detail
      >When your first introduction to the system has 800ms penalties for trivial queries
      such as? name the service and query

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't remember. I signed up for a trial, copy/pasted the lambda example code verbatim and found the throughput laughable. Sure, I'm sure it's scales to billions of concurrent users at the same performance level, but I build websites that respond as fast as you access them because it turns out one bare metal server can trivially support hundreds of thousands of concurrent users and the benefits you get from not designing it like some functional programmer's wet dream are so massive scaling vertically instead of horizontally is going to see you right until you get to facebook numbers of usage.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so you lied, typical for retards. then you move the goalposts and talk about lambda not doing what you want. you're a typical lying retard. you used something and it didn't do what YOU wanted so you say "DUH IT MUST BE STUPID", when in fact there's nothing wrong with lambda for what it's designed to do. if you don't like it, don't use it, there's many different ways to do what you're trying to do, so implement it some other way that fits you. what i can guarantee is that whatever way you ended up implementing you i bet you did it totally wrong anyway. i bet you the kind of idiot who would run one server for something critical and not even understand why that's bad. you fucking retarded LULZ homoesxual

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AWS is shit nowadays. Azure is better than that in every way possible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >THING BAD
      >gives no reasons
      kek, the eternal idiot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Topic has been discussed a million times on this forum. There's no reason to explain it again

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its omnipresent and worth learning but try getting an other fag to do it for you this shit gives you a stupid amount of control. Like stupid stupid level. Tried all 3 major cloud vendors, aws is the best IMO

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's dogshit. Use on-prem like a white man. Cloud and devops is for pajeets.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    idk what it is but i've worked with all 3 and azure had the UI i disliked the most, it just seemed like a mess

    gcp had the nicest UI but no one uses it and google might just axe it in a couple years since it's unprofitable

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What will happen to all the web sites/applications that depend on google cloud once they decide to scrap it like they have most other services they've created?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i assume it won't be like they just turn off a switch one day and it's gone
        likely they'll start by discontinuing services in less used regions, and they'll give a "grace period" to migrate your shit off

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Consider the amount of reports of Google killing instances without warning and refusing to talk to you unless you have a pricy support package, I wouldn't put it beyond them to just wipe their servers overnight and routing all the angry e-mails to /dev/null.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only been digging into AWS full time for about six months, compared to 7 years on Azure. AWS clearly has a huge footprint and a lot of capabilities, but I would tend to prefer Azure.

    VPCs vs Virtual Networks: the lack of capability to traverse VPCs without deploying routing appliances can be a pain, prefer the Azure model of availability zones being able to share a subnet.
    Accounts vs Subscriptions: Prefer the Azure model of Subscriptions that still provides for billing and access control separation, but without having a separate RBAC/IAM identity store. AWSSSO feels like a bolted-on hack and I've had a lot of issues with it.
    IAM vs Azure AD: AADs handling of application authentication with Service Principals / App Registrations just feels much cleaner and makes for clearer separation between users and services.
    Management interfaces: Hands down prefer Azure portal. This "pick the region you want to manage resources in" stuff is just pain. (this model also carries over to their APIs, which is again just pain). "Oh, you want to enumerate all of your VPCs? You'll just have to take a list of all your accounts, create an SSO profile for each of them on your machine, then query each one for which regions it is enabled in, and then query each region/account combination to pull a list."

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate it, but it's almost necessary to get a decent job these days.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do you hate it so much

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you actually want to see how much azure is used compared to aws just look at the terraform providers for each and how many times they are downloaded and also contributed to. no one contributes to azure because it sucks balls, and google sucks to. the only cloud that's really being used is aws, let's just face it, let's stop lying and just face reality. i mean, why even lie on the internet, you know?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there's actual cloud market share statistics and azure is doing decently although obviously aws is in the lead

          i'd assume a lot of azure users are boomer companies using windows and use azure since they've been using microsoft shit forever, and have never even heard of infrastructure as code

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that chart is outdated; the gap is growing.

            > i'd assume a lot of azure users are boomer companies using windows and use azure since they've been using microsoft shit forever, and have never even heard of infrastructure as code

            definitely some truth to this, and there's another layer to it: a lot of those companies are shipping their servers to azure VMs without looking to optimize in any way. this is artificially inflating the value of azure since these morons are basically paying an order of magnitude more than their compute is actually worth.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >that chart is outdated; the gap is growing.
              nice speculation, where's your data to prove it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The intro aws class on A Cloud Guru

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i don't see the updated chart you posted, can you try posting it again?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that chart is outdated; the gap is growing.
                nice speculation, where's your data to prove it?

                Here you go pal

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                19% yikes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would you use terraform for Azure when DSC and Powershell exist?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate it, but it's almost necessary to get a decent job these days.
      Job as a what? "Web master" or whatever they call it these days?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    play CloudQuest and see for yourself

    yes it looks and plays like shit but w/e
    grow up

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >corponaggers fighting over whos turd tastes the best

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do they look like wax sculptures

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do they look like wax sculptures

      At least he looks human. She looks like a fucking skeletor undead laughing skull.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AWS is the best cloud provider by far (I admit) am biased due to the huge range of services. However, you should note
    >Cost
    AWS can hit you with a big surprise bill if you don't understand the pricing model. But if you complain enough they might waive it for you or give you private discounts
    >Region parity
    AWS sucks at this, you have something working perfectly fine in us-east-1 then you try to deploy the same thing into a new region (say a new region like ap-southeast-3) and nothing works because services aren't launched or some features of a service don't exist. Going multi-region is pretty much going multi-cloud.

    Source: I actually work at AWS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Source: I actually work at AWS
      How much do you get paid? How to get your position?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I get way overpaid, I make something like $200k cash a year and I don't think I deserve it, but I won't complain.
        As for how to get the position, I don't know, you apply and interview? I actually find the big companies are more likely to interview you even if your resume sucks. I got passed over at a bunch of small no-name companies then AWS hired me.
        They keep raising the hiring bar each year though, we have this 50% rule where you have to be better than 50% of current employees. Do some leetcode and study the leadership principles, come up with a couple examples for each one to prepare.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What do you do with all that sweet cash?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing lmfao
            I spend like $18k on rent and utilities a year, maybe $3k on food, maybe $1-2k on random stuff, then after taxes I just sit on $150k or something and do nothing with it. Maybe I'm retarded?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Probably should at least max out your 401k, an IRA, and put the rest in an index fund, though maybe not now with how the market is right now. I'm not too fiscally informed so I might be wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah I contributed $6k or whatever in IRA but I don't think I can anymore due to the income limit.
                And the number I quoted is after the 401k, it's automatically deducted from my paycheck so I forgot about it.

                I have more money than I need but it does get super stressful, especially at this time of the year in the months leading up to Re:Invent. There's also oncall and you will be expected to handle customer issues at 2 AM no matter the day. Just something to keep in mind before you work here... you have to be willing to give up your social life and work will take up a lot of your time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you have to be willing to give up your social life and work will take up a lot of your time.
                Lots of overtime or you don't get days off?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We get days off, but there's occasionally lots of overtime. Some days are chill then some days you work 12 hours (or the whole team works 12 hours). And oncall is overtime too, depends on the team but prepare to be extremely busy one week every 2-3 months.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Any tips on how to get a US based job at AWS as a foreigner?
          They only seem to offer me the Canada based jobs, but from what I have heard the pay is much much less in Canada than in US for the same job. Is that also the case for AWS? Or is it possible to get the US salaries while working for the Canadian branch as well?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry I have no idea about salary difference across countries.
            On the amazon.jobs site the jobs will tell you if they're hiring internationally. Pretty sure it's a minority, but I know there are some teams that span countries - I know of a couple that have split between Cali, Seattle, Berlin, and Cape Town.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I just want to get into the US job market...
              I earn a good wage now in Asia, close to 90k USD. But from what I read, a 150k pay in Canada will force me to live more frugal if I want to save the same amount of money as I do now.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I work for a company that probably spends several 10s of millions on cloud each year.

    If you have some common sense and understand how the costs work and basic understanding of how to not to blow up your bill it's pleasant.

    Unfortunately, when you're in an organization with 1000s of developers who can deploy shit with a click of a button, upload stuff, do a bunch of retarded big data shit, it becomes chaos. No doubt the company just throws up their hands at the end of the month and just pays the bill, because it's apparently easier than educating developers on doing things a better way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I spend all our IT budget deploying shit and I'm the only one deploying shit lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what is your deployment process like?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        KEK. Lemme guess. You ARE the only cost in terms of IT budget because you do it manually.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /g/tards, I need to host a simple NodeJS Api with websockets (possibly with docker), where can I get a good price and avaliability? (Really small app but Digitial Ocean doesn't have servers in South America)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but Digitial Ocean doesn't have servers in South America
      go fuck yourself brownish, computers are for white people

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I bet 1 btc you are darker than me

        IIRC it's good practice for the API and websocket server to be on separate servers

        Okay, imagining it's just for an API, what would you recommend (just need to host a legal project, nothing sketchy)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Might be able to get away with free or basically free on aws

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IIRC it's good practice for the API and websocket server to be on separate servers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Explain so we can learn. Interested here.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What Cloud™ should I use for automated ZFS backups?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AWS is too niggardly for my liking
    >they charge you to download your bill
    >egress fees are ridiculous
    >lots of features (eg secret rotation, certificate renewal) are presented as regular configuration options but actually deploy lambda functions to perform these actions so AWS can charge you for them
    >oh you want literally any of your AWS services to be able to talk to each other? You have to pay for NAT gateways or get a couple of privatelinks. And they’re dragging their feet with IPv6 support solely because this will result in less NAT gibs
    >constantly kneecapping serverless options while pilpulling the meaning of serverless because it isn’t as profitable
    >pushing complicated microservices everywhere
    >still no way to delete everything from a region
    >there are things that are still impossible to do solely in cloudformation
    >the console doesn’t support browsing contents of anEFS file system or running queries against an RDS DB
    >still zero support for tls1.3 for ALB
    >cognito is just pure trash

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I also forgot
      >we know you all really want foundational Feature Foo for Service Bar, so we’re excited to announce AWS ElasticBar, a managed version of Service Bar with only half the functionality at twice the price but it has Feature Foo!

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's good but quite expensive as it scales.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AWS is shit. For me it's either DigitalOcean or Azure.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what are your thoughts on heroku?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AWS = ALWAYS SMILING

    ALWAYS SMILING

    AMAZON WEB SERVICES = A.W.S.

    (ALLWAYS SMILIING)

    ITS INT HE LOGO ITS IN THE LOGO AWS AWS ALWASYS SMILING THE SYMBOL IS A SMILE SMILKING ...................

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meds

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meds now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wack ass nigga

      take yo pills man

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The israelites of cloud computing

    Almost all of their products have obscure usage-based pricing which makes it difficult to anticipate how much your monthly costs will be.

    Even with upfront payments: cost savings plans (where you have to use price calculators to approximate the spend PER HOUR so you can pay $$$$ for 3 years), EC2 instance savings plans, reserved instances and even then you still have to pay usage based costs like I/O and storage for Aurora, usage on anything higher than cache.t2.medium on Elasticache

    So without proper DDOS protection, you're gonna get fucked in the ass with usage fees, and what is AWS's solution to this? AWS Shield which is usage based and usually costs thousands per month. AWS WAF is absolute dogshit as well.

    Their documentation is the worst I've come across and I can understand why you need certifications to use this shit.

    Using CloudFormation which you use for "infrastructure-as-code" means that you have to treat all the instances as read-only to avoid sync issues, and god forbid you change database settings or make a simple typo in your config because it WILL delete your database without warn.

    Elastic Beanstalk is a shitty take at managed docker containers with load balancing, except the instances are one giant black box in terms of configuring deployment hooks and troubleshooting deployment failures. You have to SSH in to the instance to actually view meaningful logs but even then AWS doesn't share any images of the preconfigured environments, so you're bound by months of waiting for AWS to update application versions of PHP and Node.js.

    Cloudwatch is an absolute shitshow that still doesn't allow you to monitor X minute intervals for log patterns and email when it reaches a threshold with contextual info, like most other log ingestion options out there. All you can do is get is an email with the alarm level.

    I only long for the day the CloudFlare takes over with competing services.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that chart is outdated; the gap is growing.

      > i'd assume a lot of azure users are boomer companies using windows and use azure since they've been using microsoft shit forever, and have never even heard of infrastructure as code

      definitely some truth to this, and there's another layer to it: a lot of those companies are shipping their servers to azure VMs without looking to optimize in any way. this is artificially inflating the value of azure since these morons are basically paying an order of magnitude more than their compute is actually worth.

      >a lot of those companies are shipping their servers to azure VMs without looking to optimize in any way. this is artificially inflating the value of azure

      Yes this is how it works. More than 50% don't save any money on using "cloud". Every cloud provider is raking in massive profits.
      It's the same with any digital subscription. If you subscribe to netflix, if you watch it 24/7, they'll lose a couple of bucks on you. But there's also tons of people that pay for it that forgot they even have it.

      All these companies were sold on "cloud" with promises of "huge savings" and "paying for only exactly what you need", but they ended up with ever more expensive configurations and no one taught them to scale down and optimize.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most of them are just happy they don't have to maintain VMware environments anymore. Though an msp private cloud is cheaper and achieves the same thing if you're just staying on IaaS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >obscure usage-based pricing
      It's all in the pricing docs anon... https://aws.amazon.com/pricing/ they have calculators and examples for almost every service. How about you read them before you build?
      This is like going to a restaurant and ordering food without looking at the prices then getting surprised when you get the bill.

      >AWS WAF is absolute dogshit as well.
      >Their documentation is the worst I've come across
      Yeah I agree with these point

      >Using CloudFormation which you use for "infrastructure-as-code"
      Use CDK, and set retention policies so your stuff doesn't get deleted. I agree CFN sucks, I work for AWS and everyone I know hates the CFN team. You will not believe what a pain it is to internally onboard with CFN, it is a giant pain in the ass.

      Never used Elastic Beanstalk so I don't know

      >Cloudwatch is an absolute shitshow that still doesn't allow you to monitor X minute intervals for log patterns and email
      Holy shit use a metric filter you retard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's all in the pricing docs anon...
        I shouldn't have to go through artificial friction of using pricing calculators and documentation for this though. They could easily show monthly estimates when provisioning an instance or service.

        >Holy shit use a metric filter you retard
        I've already got metric filters. It's just that the email subscriptions for these filters provide no actionable, contextual data, a snippet of the logs, a screenshot of the graph, anything. I don't want to log in to the console to see my last X logs on the metric filter.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >refuse to read docs
          >get confused on pricing
          I'm beginning to see the problem here...
          And we DO provide estimates, go to the billing console and you see how much money you're projected to spend and how much you've spent so far.

          >metric filters
          Ok I see what you mean, I agree it'd be nice to have. You'd have to do something more custom here, like have the SNS trigger a lambda which will read the logs and send you the email with context you need. It's not that difficult to setup.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm just frustrated about the pricing model because I just did a whole bunch of 3-year upfront purchases for reserved aurora & elasticache instances and EC2 cost savings plans totalling around $20k.
            The cost savings stuff was the most annoying because the UI assumes you've already calculated the savings yourself using the pricing calculator. Just having heuristic suggestions that say "you can save 37% over last month's EC2 costs by purchasing a cost savings plan of $0.32/hour" would have helped so much, in comparison to potentially making calculation errors on the pricing calculator when accounting for all our EC2 resources across all zones.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Honestly submit a feedback request. Go to the console and click the Feedback button and tell them what you want. That goes straight to the team that develops the service/console.
              My team looks at every single request we get, and I know other teams do too. At the very least a group of product managers and engineers will discuss it. I won't guarantee anything will change but I guarantee it will get some internal traction.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use Linode via its REST API. With a bit of hoop jumping, you can autodeploy OpenBSD instances unattended.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Azure > AWS > Google Cloud
    Microsoft has the Window and GitHub ecosystem integrated with Azure as it is with a lot of room to grow into. AWS is the largest player and is fairly robust despite the outages, but it has saturated the market. Google is just shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >inb4 shill
      I'm almost ashamed to admit Azure is pretty comfy. The integration like you mentioned is top notch (especially with their devops Boards, which probably sucks overall compared to Jira but fuck Jira)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but fuck Jira)
        why

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Commit heroku

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m still wondering why if AWS are so big, do they even need to shill on here?

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does the internet look like if "the cloud" fails along with micorosft/amazon/redhat/google/oracle and collapses and how do we go about destroying "the cloud" through whatever means possible?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do you hate it so much?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because its evil and we need to destroy the machine we dont understand fully that is in the hands of low IQ politicians and bankers. A terry davis templeOS world is aesthetic not this disaster.

        bonk your local aws datacenter

        Yes we must bonk everything that is not able to run on an 80s microprocessor

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bonk your local aws datacenter

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They produce the worst Formula 1 graphics and statistics.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Newbie learning Go here, should I use Google AppEngine? I'm working on a CRUD app no one will ever use but my resume and I just wanted something easy to get started.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    too expensive
    hetzner is the most affordable but they're gonna increase prices thanks to putler

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is GCP such a failure?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Amazon was first and azure has MS integration.. There's just no point in using it.
      If google had made a simple, interface like say DO or vultr, I think they would have been a lot more popular. Instead they copied AWS, which is a mess.

      what are your thoughts on heroku?

      Heroku is only known because it offered a free tier, so it was used by zoomers who couldn't pay. Replit is the same.
      They suck, aren't relevant unless you're a 15 year old retard.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely worth learning.
    It's a bad thing and it's cancer, but that's the world we live in.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i followed the docs and spent hours trying to set up websites on aws using different features, it was all too complicated.
    used DO and finished in 10 minutes.
    an aws you might only be clicking boxes and filling in forms but it was too confusing and so i don't know how a newb would ever do it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AWS is a clusterfuck but its straight forward enough if you are using the right services and have the correct documentation for those services. You're also able to host websites from S3.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AWS is a clusterfuck
        nah, it's not, that's just your stupid opinion

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy a server and be done with it

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you want muh cloud, it's the only choice really.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    aws>google>azure
    it literally runs the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if it had more than 90% market share across big enterprises

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everything you said is wrong. Good work

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thanks, lead dev on a major gaming company here, the main game being in the top 3 world's most played games, all running on aws, just like any other company in the industry, including also the News industry, the Entertainment industry (streaming) and more that I've worked with in the past.

        what about you?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i'm not that guy you're talking to and i'm just curious since i mostly work with web shit

          i hear that game servers aren't a good fit for cloud. is there a reason for that?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i hear that game servers aren't a good fit for cloud. is there a reason for that?
            you hear? what did you hear specifically? no, game servers, any server, is fine as long as it's architected properly. you architect for scalability and elasticity. if your server isn't designed that way then you're just archtiecting bad anyway, regardless of cloud.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't care where your fake work is homosexual. 90% market share of "big enterprises" is a bullshit statistic you pulled out of your ass. Provide source and definition of big enterprises or shut the fuck up. Also there's no world where Google is better than Azure, you can argue either azure or aws, but to suggest google is second is retardation

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >jpg

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use lightsail for a small project and it just werks, but every time I open the billing page I'm scared shitless. I just don't get it and hope I don't ever see big numbers there. Wish there was a page for retards like me who already know they'll never get much traffic and want to see only the bare minimum

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God tier VPN for playing JP/KR/CN games

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      explain

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You will probably have to use the cloud at some point of your life, so yes. As for why AWS in particular, that's because: (a) It's the most popular one (b) It's cheap, will probably be completely free while you are learning (c) Microsoft is shit and Google sucks.
    It isn't you who will decide which to work on though.

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