Americans are a bunch of crybabies when they see a green bubble. Meanwhile, everywhere else in the world. No one is bitching about bubble colors.
What is so special about iMessage?
Americans are a bunch of crybabies when they see a green bubble. Meanwhile, everywhere else in the world. No one is bitching about bubble colors.
For starters, Jeet; iMessage is E2E encrypted. WhatsApp isn't.
WhatsApp uses the Signal protocol; Jeet.but you were probably talking about plain ass text messages, right?
WhatsApp is spyware. If i know tom is a drug dealer, and i know you spoke to tom, and i know that your phone and tom's phone were near each other for 5 minutes. Even if i dont know that you talked about buying drugs i can infer that you did. Whatsapp tells facebook who, where, when, how long, etc.
what makes you think apple is any better?
>but but but but whataboutism
Apple isn't focused solely on ads you giga fucking retard.
5 rupees have been deposited into your account.
so I'm hearing that it's end to end encrypted
>WhatsApp is spyware.
>If i know tom is a drug dealer, and i know you spoke to tom, and i know that your phone and tom's phone were near each other for 5 minutes
How does those 2 things correlates you absolute retard? If you had the tools you could infer that without whatsapp.
>Even if i dont know that you talked about buying drugs i can infer that you did.
You just said your own argument is not valid.
whatsapp is e2e you absolute sperg
you literally have no evidence of otherwise
also
>feature meant for privacy
>first thing he wants to use it for is to commit crimes
i'm clearly replying to a negroid lmao
No it doesn't nagger, it uses XMPP.
The E2E extension used with XMPP (OMEMO) is an implementation of Double Ratchet Algorithm, created for Signal
>iMessage is E2E encrypted. WhatsApp isn't.
>no replies
nice
Samefag groid user
You will never be a real woman
Imagine putting genders behind phone usage; what a fucking mongoloid poorfag. keep seething, andjeet.
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMessage
>In September 2015, Matthew Green noted that, because iMessage does not display key fingerprints for out-of-band verification, users are unable to verify that a man-in-the-middle attack has not occurred. The post also noted that iMessage uses RSA key exchange. This means that, as opposed to what EFF's scorecard claims, iMessage does not feature forward secrecy.
>On August 7, 2019, researchers from Project Zero presented 6 "interaction-less" exploits in iMessage that could be used to take over control of a user's device. These six exploits have been fixed in iOS 12.4, released on July 22, 2019, however there are still some undisclosed exploits which will be patched in a future update. Project Pegasus revelations in July 2021 found the software used iMessage exploits.
>In 2021, an FBI document obtained by Property of the People, Inc., a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, through an FOIA request, reveals, that WhatsApp and iMessage are vulnerable to law-enforcement real-time searches.
iToddlers BTFO LMAO
> WhatsApp and iMessage are vulnerable to law-enforcement real-time searches.
Well no shit. Apple doesn’t give a fuck about privacy. They make it look like they do to get people to buy their shitty products
The "real-time searches" are metadata.
Law enforcement is told in real time "A sent a message to B." They don't know the content of the message.
Why do Apple fans hate the colour green?
Because they think those on green bubbles are poor motherfuckers. Yet, those same people finance their phones rather than buying it full price.
Green is the color of jeets.
But isn't green what the Android phones come up as? Apple is seen as a status symbol phone in India, pajeets love it because it's so expensive and few of them can afford it. In the West it's seen as a phone for women and homesexuals.
Most phone loans are 0%APR, so you're stupid if you have the money and aren't financing it while savings rates are 4%+
kek imagine taking a loan for a phone, only savvy if you value a phone at 1000+ dollars
Imagine being in 2023 and still not knowing your carrier will give you 0% APR on literally any phone. Even BestBuy appears to be getting in on this starting at $150 phones.
Explaining how credit works to andjeets is like splitting water.
Financing a phone is literally for carrier cattle, imagine it gets broken or stolen and still paying for a nonexistent device
sounds pretty cucked to me
If you're too stupid to work the anti-theft on a modern smart phone, and not drop it; they still sell flip phones for you.
kek, seethe and cope
Financing is for carrier cucks
I will keep buying cash a mid range samsung phone every 4 years and get free buds with it
Basically this, kek, when I bought 14 pro last year, I can afford the whole price up front, but then knew the 0 apr thing, if you count inflation + other saving rates, it actually is cheaper to get that way. Also, no loan or whatever, just paid the first by card and every month they deduct the amount.
ESL retard
>hurr durr u made a grammar mistake while being half asleep kekkk lmaooo wewlad
Shutup moron, You sound like a mutt with a room temperature IQ who thinks everyone speak only English
But it does, when your saving have interests of 4%, you actually pay less.
That's only a valid argument if in the meantime your wage increases.
right guys? It will only negatively affect your credit rating if you rake a loan for more than 200 EUR here. Be a good goym and save the little interest that banks might give you. It will only destroy your credit rating.
It doesn’t affect your credit rating unless you stop paying and don’t return the phone.
You aren’t a nagger, so you wouldn’t do that. Right?
Here in Germany, loans over 200 EUR that haven't been fully paid back are negatively impacting your credit rating. If your monthly payment however is included in a service plan with your service provider, it won't effect your credit rating. But your service provider will usually charge an interest (even it's not called that), so if you don't want to overpay and don't have a negative impact on your credit rating, you have no other choice than paying upfront here.
Phone loans fall in a different category of credit and they don’t show up on your report in America unless you don’t pay. It could go against your credit utilization depending on who finances it, though.
Let them keep posting. It shows how third world they really are.
>phone loans
who the fuck takes a phone loan holy shit
Anyone with half a brain would take 0% financing. Literally zero downsides unless you’re brown.
>zero downsides
NTA, but spending $1000 for a fucking phone
>Literally zero downsides
Having to give my info to create a credit card is a big downsize.
Those fuckers are always calling me to bother me with some bullshit credit cards campaign.
This. It's literally free money. By the time you pay it back, inflation will have guaranteed you get a discount. And that's in addition to having the money at your disposal. If you live in a country where credit score is a thing, it's even better.
I don't know about the US, but you can opt out in Europe. They only call you like once a year and I just hang up on them.
I just don't care about credit. I don't need it.
It's some bullshit americans got shoved down their throats. You think they're doing you some kind of favor?
I'm not taking about a credit card, I'm talking about a 0 interest loan for an expensive item, which is usually a good deal. They sometimes give you a credit card with it too but you don't even have to take it out of the envelope, you don't have to use it.
>credit
This is the most american shit I've read all day.
Financing on credit is the more financially savvy option. It's why most people put on credit their TV subscription or basic shit like their cell phone plan; the more usage you get out of your credit card the higher credit you get for better loan rates in car/home payments and reward points towards a free weekend trip, hotel stay included. Literally just Google it.
>50k+ in cc debt but my score is 750 so I can get mortgage
>that means I'm smart
the point is to pay back your credit retard.
every little thing counts. i buy groceries on credit and my credits perfect because of it.
good cattle, report all purchases to the government and credit agencies (bankers), using cash is antisemitic
The only thing I have financed is my car and I have a 780 FICO score. I have credit cards, but I pay them off before the statement even gets posted so all of them report a $0 balance at the bureaus.
This is Larping, they ding your credit for paying them early.
They what? Note I'm European, I don't understand the ins and outs of American money lending.
It's a good goy score, rather than how good you are with money.
I'm American. You are wrong.
>Imbeciles continue to spout falsehoods
You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
It shouldn't be zero. If you really want to prepay, only pay if it is more than 30% utilisation. Otherwise it's good not to prepay.
>Better rates on car or home loans
Meanwhile, we don't need loans for cars or homes. Stay poor.
Only poors don't get loans.
t. iphone Chad with an EV
Why would I pay interest if I have the money directly? Shitty systems like credit score don't exist everywhere, retard.
t. Android enjoyer with 2 combustion cars, 1EV, 2 houses (solid brick, not pressed cardboard or whatever you Americans use), 10 hectars of land, multiple servers and 0 debt.
>the more usage you get out of your credit card the higher credit you get for better loan rates in car/home payments
Good thing I didn't have to jump through those hoops to get my house. Good goy points are nonexistent here so I still get the good deal without them.
But enough about your 3rd world shithole
You DO have your own house and land... right? You're not just living in a shoebox?
I live in a 1st world country how about you?
Northern Europe and thanks for avoiding my question, it answers it perfectly. Stay miserable, hobo.
Ahhh so a shithole. Thanks for clarifying
Winter is coming, remember to put more newspapers under your jacket while dreaming about an actual house to live in. I mean, you'll never get it but it's a nice dream.
K 3rd world homosexual
>the more usage you get out of your credit card the higher credit you get
Usage, yes, but financing no. Only thing that happens if you don't pay off your credit card debt in full is that you waste your money on interest. It has no benefit for your credit score, and in fact, overextending your credit lowers your credit score.
You should only finance things if you don't have to pay interest, or the interest is lower than whatever profit you would be able to get risk-free. Various things can be had with 0% APR, though with these you should still be careful that you're actually paying the lowest price, because you might be able to get it elsewhere at a lower price. You can get like 4% APY on savings accounts at the moment, so any debt with lower APR than that (minus taxes) is worth it.
>the more usage you get out of your credit card the higher credit you get for better loan rates in car/home payments
In my country the only thing banks check for is if you have a stable job.
In some cases it suffices if you can prove you have a stable legal income, even without a contract.
In which chesspool do you live that you need to be constantly in debt for banks to tell that you have money?
naggers all have iPhones you can get an iPhone 12 for $200 now. Just don’t buy the latest release. Also, you are 101% poor.
Green Is Not A Creative Color.
Because they don't want to touch grass
can't people just spoof the text client to think that it is being sent from an iphone? like changing the user agent?
iMessage isn't SMS
Tell that to the fanboys who can't tell the difference between the two
no but you can tunnel your message through a mac running messenger to get the blue bubble
this seems like a cash grab oportunity
you're a little late to the market but yeah
there's companies with a fleet of mac minis who will do this for you for a fee
who?
>No one is bitching about bubble colors.
How new are you? The bitching is/was a marketing campaign with fake twatter profiles to boost iPhone sales. Who the fuck even thought it was real?
it was literally a joke between me and my iphone friends thatd we'd only make to be annoying when our android friends were around, no ad campaign
the meme has revealed that some people let a lot of dumb shit live rent free in their mind
It's miserable how bad the communications state of the world is. It's ridiculous the simple everyday problems that aren't universally solved yet:
1) people can't out-of-the-box and by default send E2E encrypted messages from one phone to another, or from a computer to another computer, or a phone to a device
2) not all systems come with out-of-the-box ability to just rapidly and easily send an arbitrary file from one device on your network to another; let alone to a remote device
3) telecom companies drag their asses on enabling high-bandwidth media transmission, so they just refuse to cooperate and split the population: e.g. Apple admittedly doing a great job with their seamless ecosystem and high data caps on iMessage, Google having to drag all the other companies through implementing the (to my knowledge inferior) RCS, which Apple said it isn't going to interface with anyway
Absolutely ridiculous that we can have our computers doing such advanced things and producing LLMs, but can't accomplish seemingly trivial goals of interconnectivity
apple (and by extension everyone in competition with them) don't want you to have to think about what a file is or how a message is sent or the methods of security
apple (et al.) just want you to have a good user experience. people aren't power users.
It's kind of ridiculous that default messages between applel and Android devices are still SMS. Maybe daddy EU can force them all to adopt an open standard like they did with type-c.
>adopt an open standard
That standard is SMS, retard.
Fair enough but SMS should be considered obsolete. It has very heavy limits for a communications standard.
People want to send more than text now. It's insane that someone can send me a 10 second clip they just recorded and what I'll receive is a 150 kB 320x240 video so compressed you can't even make out what the object they're trying to show is, let alone what it's doing that's so interesting.
No it's rcs
The standards are SMS/MMS and phone calls. Every device is capable of them, you can use them to communicate with 20- or even 50-year old devices, respectively, and computers can use them with a program which is trivial.
MMS only supports media up to the size limit of the lowest common denominator, anywhere from 300 - 1000 kB in the US, which is worthless.
there is money in creating problems and solving them but once solved there is no more money. thus, a solution should only be done in a way to create new problem, restarting the cycle.
>Burger thinks his shitty country applies to the rest of the world: the post
Where do you live that all devices can, out of the box, send one another E2EE messages and media, as well as arbitrary file data?
>out of the box
Why do you need them to do it out of the box? Apps are a thing you know
Because the whole idea is that it's so fundamental to the purpose of a networked device (interact with other devices by exchanging data) that it shouldn't be a specialty functionality requiring additional software. Every electronic device with an interface intended for the general public consumes, writes, and exchanges data, according to universal standards. Interconnectivity is all about being able to do that exchange between devices. I can't simplify it any more than that.
It's like buying an oven, a device that is build around heating up, and then being told that to set it to between 200 and 225 degrees, or 275 and 300, requires a third party oven modifier.
it just werks. Google had google chat which was fairly popular up till 2010 then they decided to completely rebrand it and then every year someone else creates a new promo project, so nothing works properly.
https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/04/google-disables-rcs-ads-in-india-following-rampant-spam-by-businesses/
We have RCS chats now
sub-800 manlet btfo
jeets turning every public communications channel into designated shitting street as usual
I don't know what green and blue bubbles are. All my bubbles are gray because that's the theme I use.
use signal or be a homosexual, goodnight
I don't care.
>Americans are a bunch of crybabies
idk you seem like the crybaby to me, who cares what the itoddlers care about
Actual non-troll answer:
Americans got unlimited SMS texting by default as part of their phone plans well before most other countries did (some never did), which meant that 3rd party messaging apps never really took off. The only reason they ever started using iMessage is because it was a default app that could also handle SMS messaging if needed. Other countries don't care in the same way because they defaulted to 3rd party apps long ago. I imagine you'd see similar behaviour from the average European if their app of choice neutered their features when talking to another person without [their app of choice].
>Americans got phone plans
I think this is the main thing. Japan also does this too.
You buy the phone from the carrier on a contract which has free texting to butter up the deal.
Other parts of the world it's more common to buy a phone outright from a retailer then you buy a plan from the carrier.
and yet all japanese use line
Japanese people never used SMS, they used email on phones. It is much superior to anything the west had.
Broadly, politeness is used for interacting with strangers, while taking jabs at people is done with friends. So calling someone poor for using android is mainly just a joke between people who see each other as equals.
Robotic monotonal euros and their entrenched classism are the only ones who seem to take this seriously/not get the tone.
SMS means you’re poor.
lets you know if someone is stupid enough to fall for buying apple or not
The alternative is buying Android and remaining permanently celibate.
To Unitedstatians consumerism is a religion.
I have an incredibly narrow niche use-case for using iMessageand FaceTime (audio-only and video) and nothing else.
I admit that if everyone else mirrored me, and did the same thing: it wouldn't work anymore. In fact I rely on having people having turned on "send as SMS when iMessage fails" in their phone settings. I usually do it for them.
Same goes for FaceTime. Complicated set of reasons. And if everyone else did it: no-one would benefit.
The net-effect for me: I have not SENT a regular SMS from my phone nor made a regular cellular telephone call from my phone in more than 10 years.
I receive regular calls and SMS daily. I just don't make regular use outward.
If you don't have FaceTime (audio or video) and iMessage, I will not (and mostly cannot) initiate contact.
My narrow use-case has allowed me to pay no more than $60 per year for my phone service since 2012.
Yes. $60 per year. Not per month.
So it's worth it. But only for me.
If you hate the green bubbles in the USA and don't have my particular needs: you are just a snob.
>$60 per year
What?!?
How?
Mutts are like the movie Idiocracy. They believe any colorful ad they see and religiously believe it as a fact. They all have to use iToddler toys because "those have electrolytes, dude!". The freedom to choose from many different brands is bad because the ad never explained why it would be a good thing. Take the dumbest IQ African country and split that in half and you'll get the average iToddler IQ.
Nice projection brawndo drinker
I live near Apple HQ and the smartphone demographica ars fucked. Out of 50 ppl know here probably only 2 guys and no women use android
Why would anyone use iMessage?
Me and my wife both have an iPhone and I use SMS exclusively.
I want her to get my message even when she’s not connected to the Internet
I don't really care about iMessage, but wtf about airdrop, it's so unreal how difficult it is to send a photo from apple to android without it being compressed to shit by Instagram/messenger
I literally had to email someone the photo lmao
Someone needs to reverse engineer airdrop and build an android client for it
Just recently whatsapp introduced the HD feature that allows users to share photos and videos in a higher definition if the sender tick the HD box.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/6/23862044/whatsapp-hd-photo-video-messaging
I mean it's nice that ultimately Zucc is catching up but I feel this needed update came too late.
It's nice but it's not by default, I have to ask the person to do it..
Also it's still not lossless like airdrop
>It's nice but it's not by default, I have to ask the person to do it
That's why I said the update came too late. Normal people don't even know what the fuck is compression. They literally don't see any difference from the photo sent to the one they shot because both are seen through their tiny smartphone display.
>Someone needs to reverse engineer airdrop and build an android client for it
already done and dusted
Or just use Telegram
I'm just going to say what everyone is thinking. Of course I want to fuck some stupid vapid whore who judges people by standards dictated by the military-industrial complex. Bitches who wouldn't give a wagie the time of day. Fuck, that's so hot.
I don't know, SMS is usually free in the US afaik. I have to pay a lot for it and I would never use it to just chat.
>It's not so much blue > green. That is just the tip of the iceberg.
>The shade of blue looks nicer than the shade of green
>It's comes pre installed so you don't have to install anything else because everyone else has an iPhone
>Normies like things to "just week" and working out of the box is the most you can do
>Everyone around you probably has an iPhone
>It's more of an American thing
>iPhones are more popular in USA than Android
>android cringers seething cos they get insta ghosted the second they text a tinder babe
It doesn't happen to us. We don't know wtf you're on about.
I don't think I ever texted an online dating match, was always whatsapp.
So you've literally only ever talked to Nigerian scammers.
It's the default, and even though it does the same shit that signal does but with more backdoors, there's this sense of superiority that comes with "it's just built in, it's part of my phone" that has metastized into a tumor of "it's the best and anyone who uses anything else is an unsuccessful idiot" among people who don't even realize that things other than imessage exist.
>RWDS2X
If Google ever cared green bubble, either ask Tim Cook make everyone blue bubble, or reverse engineing iMessage. worst case is throttle all iTodders using Google services
~~*Why*~~ does Apple even deliver the shitty compressed potato videos to Android?
I will always only use iPhone and Xbox because they are American
>but it’s all corpo globohomo slop
No shit, but it’s called American exceptionalism and brown 3rd worlders will never understand
Both are made in chinklandia though. There are exactly zero apple factories in amerishitia that are capable of mass production. You are omega stupid.
I was inb4 your post, you are in fact the retard
I inb4'd your mom.
Nothing. It was just widely adopted at the very start of the smartphone age because the USA / Canada promoted "Unlimited Text" in their carrier plans giving iPhone users no reason to use anything but iMessage where other regions didn't until it was too late to the point where everyone in EU uses WhatsApp and Telegram.
not even americans care about that, it was just a couple of hit pieces and journalists and peole that read what they write need to be exterminated
Fandroids BTFO
Whats with iTards and never being able to properly stage a photo?
Are you retarded?
He's an android user
It's a photo of a person on an iPhone sending an SMS message to another iPhone user (supposedly)
Since the original sender sent an SMS message rather than an iMessage it's more likely that the guy on the other end of the line is actually the android user, which makes this photo obviously staged
You are too retarded to see colors
>which makes this photo obviously staged
No shit retard. It's meant to be a satire on stupid faked text exchanges. Can you really not tell by how exaggerated and on the nose it is?
I'm sure buddy. This guy
was definitely just in on the joke, yeah?
Retarded iPhone users
>This guy
was definitely just in on the joke, yeah?
No, he was also retarded like you
I think you're giving too much credit to the retarded iPhone users. You can find millions of shitty fake texts like this, and most are posted 100% seriously
That pic makes perfect sense though, he sent "Hey" and noticed his bubble was green, then he sent the second message.
Fandroids? y
I've never met a single person who cared ever.
Ok so iMessage comes from a time where sms was standard. And as you know sms sucks.
iMessage provided high quality media and text transfer along with it being e2e encrypted.
Originally there was a plan for apple to open the specification for iMessage but they never did.
Years later Google/Samsung and GSM decided on a new encrypted messaging system standard called RCS which has the same featureset as iMessage. Apple never adopted RCS because they want everyone to use their software.
When you message a person using Android on an iphone you just get a worse experience.
The issue with RCS right now is that you need carriers to support it and also google needs to actually open the android RCS API to all instead of having it be private.
End 2 end encryption doesn't matter a single bit if authorities can just seize your phone, unlock it and read the contents anyway
Signal can be configured to delete messages after a certain amount of time.
>itoddlers are literal subhuman naggers using currynagger shitPhones that can't even do the most basic shit like customize bubble colors for each contact
southeast uk all of my friends have imessage blue bubbles. when i lived on the continent everyone had androids because they were poor and used spyware such as whatsapp or viber
I'm dating a girl who started getting angry at me when I replaced my iPhone 7 with a Samsung Galaxy A14 5G and complained about these fucking texting bubbles. So much so that she downloaded some app on her iPhone to send images that look like blue bubble messages on her end. Then she gave up.
I asked her what the fuck was wrong with her and why this is such an issue for her and she kept spouting bullshit like "it's just a downgrade" and I kept pressing more into the question and then she said "everyone in my life had iPhone so seeing green would be weird" and this kept looping when I asked her why does this matter
DUDE, you're bitching about people BITCHING about bubble colors RIGHT NOW
>YOU'RE THE PAJEET
>NO YOU'RE THE PAJEET
If I had a button that killed everyone ITT including myself I'd press it.
I will just say it's nicer traveling in Europe when it comes to phones because even boomers know how to use whatsapp and you see lots of businesses with that or telegram or whatever. so it's very nice to quickly send images etc. with many more features than shitty SMS. and you're not limited to appleshit.
That's the thing americans don't seem to get. Nowadays we send more than just text in convos. Sending pics and videos over SMS/MMS is gonna be expensive really fucking quick. I can't imagine sending multimedia over SMS/MMS to another country. WhatsApp and all these internet-based chat apps do a perfect job handling this.