what is so hard about respecting someone's pronouns?


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I'm genuinely wondering. I agree the neo-pronouns thing is Bullshit, but why wouldn't you respect someone who is asking you to call them by their preferred pronouns if they're trans or nonbinary for example? it's convenient for everyone and extremely easy and causes no conflicts. I see no reason not to. disrespecting them wouldn't change their mind, you're just being rude.

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to reason on a site full of loser incels that frequent ww2 documentaries

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sets a precedent to remember each special snowflake's foolery.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      exactly this

      https://i.imgur.com/hTWqtFB.png

      I'm genuinely wondering. I agree the neo-pronouns thing is Bullshit, but why wouldn't you respect someone who is asking you to call them by their preferred pronouns if they're trans or nonbinary for example? it's convenient for everyone and extremely easy and causes no conflicts. I see no reason not to. disrespecting them wouldn't change their mind, you're just being rude.

      it's an individual's responsibility to conform to society, not society's responsibility to conform to an individual.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's an individual's responsibility to conform to society
        NPC mindset, well done

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          its just the way it is, snowflake

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            lmao you're the real snowflake here. admit it, you don't want to be respectful and use pronouns likely because of your own insecurities

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              "THANK ME I'M HELPING YOU"
              >drives people to the point of suicide
              Being trans isn't a mental illness

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                wrong reply, ment for

                Affirming someones delusion is unhealthy for them. Trans people are mentally ill and I firmly believe in the future we will look back at this nonsense the same way we do tripanning or lobotomy. Never mind that you shouldn't cede the territory of compelled speech simply for the sake of placating someones unstable emotions.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Being trans isn't a mental illness
                It is. All forms of pathological dysphoria are. Including gender dysphoria.

                but right now, the best 'treatment' for them is that we accept and support those delusions, otherwise they will fall into depression and likely kill themselves. until we find a real cure that's what we should do. you're not doing them a favor by not supporting them, you're harming them.

                Suicide rates are for the most part the same post "treatment". Gender dysphoria is also an over prescribed issue. Many are just gay. Or depressed. Until people stand back and actually assess the issue instead of trying to find ways to endlessly appease them nothing will change.

                [...]
                I don't even bother arguing with anons like him anymore. You can't reason with these people. They have the intelligence and emotional maturity of 12 year olds.

                Then go to /tttt/

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Suicide rates are for the most part the same post "treatment".
                No they aren't, retard.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Suicide rates are for the most part the same post "treatment".

                That's a blatant lie, most of the suicides happen because of people like you.

                At least give a source on your second statement, stop spewing bullshit.

                Birmingham university's aggresive reasearch intelligence facility reviewed hundreds of studies into post operative transexuals and discovered that those that had undergone surgery had a suicide rate 20 times higher than their peers. Among many other findings. The data is very revealing.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                no, I said give a source, link it.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Here some interseting articles on it.
                >https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/31/health.socialcare
                >https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/sex-reassignment-doesnt-work-here-the-evidence
                >https://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/view/ncacal-decision-memo.aspx?proposed=N&NCAId=282&bc=ACAAAAAAQAAA&
                >https://search.informit.org/doi/abs/10.3316/INFORMIT.300883664103010
                >https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1748681507006638

                Unfortunately I cant seem to find an online link to the original ARIF review.
                And the review itself

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh and forgot to link this one too
                >https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Suicide rates are for the most part the same post "treatment".

                That's a blatant lie, most of the suicides happen because of people like you.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That's a blatant lie, most of the suicides happen because of people like you.
                Yep, exactly this.
                Posts like

                >drives people to the point of suicide
                having your mental illness encouraged and/or mocked instead of properly treated is what drives them to suicide.

                are so tiresome. Some of these "takes" might be understandable if trans people genuinely never existed prior to 6-7 years ago, but HRT treatment has been around since the 1930s. There's at least a century's worth of evidence that yes, transitioning is better than repressing.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                anon we used to brutally lobotomize people back then as well, were they correct about that? not to mention homosexuality was viewed as evil and was outlawed, were people right about that as well? its such a shit argument, its just like saying 'homosexuality exists in nature therefore everyone should be a homo'

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >homosexuality exists in nature therefore everyone should be a homo
                Who says that? As pro-LGBT as I am, I find Tumblr types who try to make every fictional character ever gay or bi or nonbinary annoying.
                >its such a shit argument
                Your argument is pretty shit too. People being wrong about things in the past doesn't mean they're wrong in the present, it's a case-by-case basis.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                what does lobotomy got to do with anything?

                >they were wrong about something before, so they must be wrong about this thing!

                use your brain a little.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                What he is saying is that maybe invasive irreversable surgery isn't what we should be using to treat a contemporary mental illness as there maybe more effetive methods such as long term counselling or perhaps investingating whether gender confusion lessens over time. Something that the NHS has concluded there has been little to no investigation into.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >or perhaps investingating whether gender confusion lessens over time.
                It generally doesn't, and there's decades and decades of thousands/millions of transpeople to reference for this.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                there's also evidence that strongly suggest that treating gender dysphoria removes the urge to transition. not to mention how damaging transitioning is to the body, it is not natural at all and leaves people who go ahead with it with permanent damaging side effects.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Doctors and patients can decide what route they want to go down (in a genuinely consensual manner, not a gay therapy sort of way). If a trans individual decides they want to go down a different route, that's okay. But again, that's between doctor and patient. Does nothing to justify the blood-curdlingly fucking horrible bullying and abuse they've gotten from the general populace the past seven years.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                it generally starts with therapy and many therapists have not studied anything other than
                >okay well go ahead and transition then
                so they have no proper counter points to consider. dont get me started on how profitable it is to transition someone vs treat them for gender dysphoria either.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                At least give a source on your second statement, stop spewing bullshit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >drives people to the point of suicide
                having your mental illness encouraged and/or mocked instead of properly treated is what drives them to suicide.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, chopping off his dick and having a gaping, bleeding open wound axe hole that he has to stick a dildo in every day to prevent closing up makes a man kill himself.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                thats along the lines of encouraging their mental illness, just not as graphic of a depiction of it. but you are correct.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                pill pushers and dick choppers refuse to acknowledge there is a huge difference between nonmedical transition (essentially letting people be traps and drag queens which is 100% fine) and medicalizing sociosexual issues with endocrine disrupting chemicals and extreme experimental surgery. it's funny they call people nazis because who exactly is performing experimental surgical procedures on sexual minorities "for their own good"? which just happen to sterilize them?

                and the way they say "well this if the bets option until we fine a way to CURE this 'mental illness'"is honestly fucking creepy. what do they mean "cure"? some kind of pill that "makes men act like men and feel like men"? the shit they say is fucking insane if you think about it for more than two seconds.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if the bets option until we fine a way
                is supposed to say "Is the best option until we find a way". I am turning autocorrect off because this is the last straw.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Being trans isn't a mental illness
                How exactly is your brain feeling it's in the "wrong" body not a mental illness? We're not talking about a minor preference here we're talking about an inherent inability to feel comfortable in your own body, physically and emotionally.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >we should restrict the rights of the public as a whole to protect the rights of the fringe minority
          communist, well done

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            how is calling someone by their pronouns restricting your right?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nvm, I get it. heard they fire people for "misgendering" others, lmao.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I fully respect, support, and am protective of trans people. Neo-pronouns are silly and dumb, but I'd probably begrudgingly go along with it just to avoid upsetting them along with the stress that goes along with that. Honestly, it's pretty much a non-issue - you rarely refer to people via pronouns anyway. The real issue is that anyone who uses neo-pronouns probably has a lot of other more insufferable flaws.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being rude shouldn't be the end of someone career or education. Imagine getting mad someone calls u a she instead of a he, actually stupid. No one respects u retards cuz of your behavior. Kys

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why should I be expected to respect someone I don't even know? It wouldn't be an issue if they actually looked and Acted like the gender they're trying to claim

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Affirming someones delusion is unhealthy for them. Trans people are mentally ill and I firmly believe in the future we will look back at this nonsense the same way we do tripanning or lobotomy. Never mind that you shouldn't cede the territory of compelled speech simply for the sake of placating someones unstable emotions.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      but right now, the best 'treatment' for them is that we accept and support those delusions, otherwise they will fall into depression and likely kill themselves. until we find a real cure that's what we should do. you're not doing them a favor by not supporting them, you're harming them.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        "THANK ME I'M HELPING YOU"
        >drives people to the point of suicide
        Being trans isn't a mental illness

        I don't even bother arguing with anons like him anymore. You can't reason with these people. They have the intelligence and emotional maturity of 12 year olds.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >no conflicts
    It conflicts with my beliefs

    >being rude
    They're being rude by being demanding

    I'm a beta fag though, naturally I want to be nice so I'd just avoid using pronouns altogether toward a tranny and just address the tranny by name. Neutrality.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you want me to call you "they/them", just deal with it, it's not like i am killing you or something

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what's stopping you though?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What's motivating me?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          idk, basic respect? you didn't answer my question

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Genuine question: What's the deal with pronouns anyway? If someone is talking to you they will use your name or just "you". Pronouns are only used when not talking to you Who exactly is talking about these people all the time?

  10. 3 months ago
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    It's as hard as it is for you to respect someone else's right to use pronouns they believe are correct.

    If you are speaking of convenience, manners, blah blah blah it makes far more sense for the minority to follow traditions that exist literally throughout every language than to insist the majority of the planet submit to their gender LARP instead.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I must communicate my hate

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because people don't "have" pronouns. YOU dont use personal pronouns. Its bullshit when someone says "I use she/her". No you don't, because you don't talk about yourself in the third person. Pronouns have nothing to do with how you view yourself and have everything to do with how I view you. What you are essentially telling me is "even though I am 6 foot 2, have trash can lid for hands, and an adams apple bigger than my balls, YOU view ME as a woman."
    No, I do not view you as a woman, therefore I will not refer to you as a she.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just call everyone dude or man cause I don't give a fuck.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >only 19 Ips
    so this thread is just trannies jerking each other off. Why don't you homosexuals got to your containment board?

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. I will call a person who looks male a he and a person who looks female a she. Sometimes I realise that the she has a dick and I still call them she because they present that way and i dont care.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want to change a tranny's mind though, i want to make them feel ashamed of themselves for being the disgusting freaks they are and I absolutely refuse to accommodate them.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why wouldn't you respect someone who is asking you to call them Emperor if they identify as Napoleon Bonaparte?

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a FTM trans cousin. I call him he because I pity FTM trannies infinitely more than I would MTF.
    They gave up the infinitely receptive nature of being a woman to become short, hairy, balding men who will almost always end up as wageslave "sugardaddies" or cucks due to their lack of equipment.
    Now MTF is another thing entirely. They want that sweet sweet female privilege while looking like literal men in dresses. They want to be irrational, whiney babies with no responsibility because that's the ironically mysogynistic (not entirely wrong lol) view they have on women, and they are projecting it onto themselves. Not only that but they insult me by asking me to put them on the same evolutionary pedestal as women.
    Nah. I won't call them man on purpose to make them sad 🙁
    I just won't speak to them period.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do I have to listen to what any random narcissist tells me to believe? How do these people get to their age without knowing respect is earned, not a privilege?

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are not entitled to make me play pretend with you. Respect is earned as you have done exactly nothing to earn mine.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    its absolutely disgusting that people even think changing genders is acceptable. What is even the point if they will be hanging from the rafters or ronnie mcnutting themselves in the next 6 months like just be normal for fucks sake

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I refer to people by "it/itself"

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      unfortunately, the neo-pronouns teenagers unironically use this.

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why wouldn't you respect someone who is asking you to call them by their preferred pronouns if they're trans or nonbinary for example

    either there is an XX configuration or an XY configuration. Any union that does not produce offspring is fundamentally an evolutionary dead end. For intersex people, I use "they/them" but beyond that, I refuse to use anything other than he/him, she/her, or they/them

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is trying to force people into playing pretend with you.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      after taking out rough & tumble play in schools, all the trannies are trying to project and attempt to play pretend as adults, but they're serious in their attempts to larp

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's a waste of time based on nothing but delusion. It's basically just a shit test to see if people will follow at this point, if the entire thing is breaking gender stereotypes then just act however you want and call yourself a man for ease of use. People can smell disingenuousness from a mile away even if they won't contribute the brainpower necessary to deconstruct why it's obviously retarded, and most people can immediately tell that enforcing gender stereotypes by claiming interests in some shallow area or way of dress makes you the other gender is retarded. Considering we're also binary creature, anyone claiming to be above their biology by making up random shit about what gender they are is similarly lying. Finally, the entire word of gender is a meaningless degenerate concept with no purpose, genitals and Chromosomes decide sex, how people treat you is based solely on the physical realities of that. Anyone saying otherwise is a liar and a piece of shit trying to enforce control on others for no good reason but their ego, they get the hate they deserve, and will be slaughtered viciously the moment pharmaceutical companies find a better way to make money and start throwing them under the bus to compensate elsewhere and deprogram their new money making machine.

    People who push this shit forget just how quickly the corporations and powers that be turned on the last groups, the difference is none of them ran around going for kids. I sincerely worry for these people, because they're inciting ridiculous amounts of hatred for little to no reason.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why not? Fuck you tranny. More seriously, to me it's a hostile imposition upon my natural politeness. You're like a person who genuinely thinks they're a lawn mower and wants me to call them mowself. You think neopronouns are fundamentally different from calling a man a woman but they aren't. It's all the same tranny bullshit. Let me call you he or go back in the closet, homosexual.

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