What if instead of the death penalty, we could turn the condemned into servitors for labor .

What if instead of the death penalty, we could turn the condemned into servitors for labor . Would it reduce high level crime through fear?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather turn them into passable trannies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Behold, this is atheism.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not an athiest though, I just like the idea of fucking a helpless, perverted, sex slave. man who has tits.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ironically the stalkers are basically the ultimate christians who have been mutilated to the point that they're incapable of doing sin.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you can sin by just thinking about it. sorry

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s based. You’ll be imprisoned for eternity abrahamist subhuman

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        rent free

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is Half Life doe

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Half Life 2 is to State Atheism what If This Goes On- is to Theocracy. The state atheist regime, it's forces in communist gas masks, enforces the wishes of the apparatus functionaries onto a citizenry packed into block apartment complexes.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fear doesn't work as a deterrent because criminals never think they'll get caught.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Explain Saudi Arabia then

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They do not crime out of pure love of Allah.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Explain Singapore then. Fear absolutely does work as a deterrent, but western countries find it extremely difficult to accept they do not actually have "tough on crime" policies at all, instead they immediately begin some kind of racist diatribe about Allah or how "Asians" are just different when you bring up successful states who managed to do things they haven't like Singapore effectively policing illicit drug usage.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Saudi Arabia doesn't have a legal system in the same sense that Western countries do. It's all up to clerics.
            [...]
            Singapore uses caning (outlawed in basically every Western country) and imposes the death penalty for crimes other than murder and high treason, but they're nowhere near as brutal as their neighbors or full blown autocracies in their overall approach.

            How can one country destroy a """Intellectual""" this hard?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Saudi Arabia doesn't have a legal system in the same sense that Western countries do. It's all up to clerics.

        Explain Singapore then. Fear absolutely does work as a deterrent, but western countries find it extremely difficult to accept they do not actually have "tough on crime" policies at all, instead they immediately begin some kind of racist diatribe about Allah or how "Asians" are just different when you bring up successful states who managed to do things they haven't like Singapore effectively policing illicit drug usage.

        Singapore uses caning (outlawed in basically every Western country) and imposes the death penalty for crimes other than murder and high treason, but they're nowhere near as brutal as their neighbors or full blown autocracies in their overall approach.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Singapore uses caning (outlawed in basically every Western country) and imposes the death penalty for crimes other than murder and high treason, but they're nowhere near as brutal as their neighbors or full blown autocracies in their overall approach.
          What does that have to do with my post? I didn't say Singapore was tougher on crime than Saudi Arabia, I said it was tougher on crime than the west. If you're not stupid you're doing a very convincing impression. Caning is a wonderful deterrent, after someone has been caned they will think twice about reoffending. It's a very strong and visceral lesson.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            At least in the West, there's a longstanding distaste for corporal punishment, and it seems that the alternatives (which vary from fines and restitution to long prison terms) are generally sufficient enough when enforced. The gap between Singapore's crime rates and those in a Western country like Australia, Canada, or the UK are substantial but evidently not overwhelming enough to override the norms of Western jurisprudence.

            >Saudi Arabia doesn't have a legal system in the same sense that Western countries do.
            So what? Clerics usually agree in stuff like homosexuality, disbelief or criticizing the goverment.

            Saudi law doesn't rely on either codified law or precedent. It's arbitrary and unpredictable.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              A lot of words and time spent not sucking your dad's cock just to say "yes you're right".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Saudi Arabia doesn't have a legal system in the same sense that Western countries do.
          So what? Clerics usually agree in stuff like homosexuality, disbelief or criticizing the goverment.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This idea is fucking awful. Most countries already have voluntary prison labor; the problem is with any form of forced penal labor because it encourages the justice system to falsely imprison people
    Just look at literally any country where force labor is legally allowed and you'll see that those almost all of those countries falsely imprison a shit ton of people, using them as slaves to build government projects or export/harvest for profit.
    If you incentivize something people are more likely to do it.

    Anyway here are some more of the problems laid out.
    First off most countries in the world that is 55% have abolished the death penalty completely and more either never make executions or only during war so the number is more like 70%.
    Most countries with the death penalty are dictatorships with one of the few being the United States, although the US has one of the highest amounts of death row inmates it's still only around 2,500 which isn't a large pool especially considering if they were to be enslaved they would need to be shipped off, trained and equipped for the labor... honestly I was gonna write more but this idea is so unbelievably shit I'm just gonna end it here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >are you crazy? you can't trust the government!
      >except for every other case, then it's fine, necessary even
      top zozzle

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This sounds like a good idea until one of them gets acquitted for their crime. Public opinion would turn sour if they thought there was any chance they might be turned into a lobotomized wretch because of a failure in the justice system (something that happens quite often)

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Would it reduce high level crime through fear?
    Isn't that one of the arguments already made in favour of the death penalty?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think criminals should be given the option to cut their sentence in half if they agree to get sterilised. Criminal behaviour is largely heritable and the eugenic aspects of crime prevention are largely overlooked in this day and age.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminds me of this convict on Sakhalin, he refused to work so they beat and tortured him for weeks. But his will was too strong, so the guards gave up and just let him wander around the island freely for the rest of his sentence. Others tried copying him, but they didn't last against the beatings.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, this is very inhumane fate. just harvest their organs and burn them to cogenerate heat and electricity

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if instead of the death penalty, we just shun people from the global ID and financial system, and they can be instantly deported to Canada if found? It would create a hardy criminal primitive state, dare I say hyperboric

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont criminals already get that in some states, they clean highways and stuff.

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