What do you mean by that you talking about colonialism? Transalantic slave trade? Roman Empire? This a broad question but likely they’d still trade with Europeans because that’s what eventually spurred what would later evolve into the following likely forming alliances and spheres of power oh btw you’re gonna get a lot racist arguments seething etc especially from Pedro and his folder
>Whites colonialism isn't unique, everyone fought eachother! >thai society was peaceful and never had tribal conflict, what makes you think Black folk could achieve that?
Why do you people bother arguing? Just make this a Black person hate thread already.
Thailand's development in the first half of the 20th century was caused by the fact it was bordered by colonial empires
Thailand would be very different if colonialism hadn't been a thing
More like Cambodia, complete with wewuzzing for Great Zimbabwe.
>They'd be like Thailand
Really? Thailand wasn't chaotic mess of thousands of tribes genociding and slaving each other.
>chaotic mess of thousands of tribes genociding and slaving each other
Thailand and the entire SEA is like that, even Europe was like that. Peace and stability only comes after enough has been removed to make ample space.
Africa was basically in Iron Age before colonisation, and iron age was pure kino only second to bronze age. Also yep, iron age was riddled with tribal warfares and diseases.
The Africans were pacing themselves. If those White Devils hadn't shown up, Africans would have gone from inventing the wheel to anti-gravity in the space of a century.
The Africans were pacing themselves. If those White Devils hadn't shown up, Africans would have gone from inventing the wheel to anti-gravity in the space of a century.
>this ONE picture is representative of ALL of Africa
have a nice day you slackjawed morons. stop talking about Africa as though it's a country
I’m gonna bet far worse off considering the only countries of not are ones where European built societies were handed over and subsequently slowly destroyed. This is speaking on subsaharan africa ofc
Africans did not have access to that infrastructure (often times built by African labour) alongside the state basically pimping them out for private white interests. So not sure if those are good examples because those two states only made money and income off exploiting populations to do all the work
Only a very small urban area. Look at the rest of the country or the stats that showed otherwise. Malawi's stats at the time of independence was pitiful and the vast majority of people did not live well..
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It's urban rates in 1960 was 4.5% and in 2021 was 17%.
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And before whitey it was around 0%
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Stop avoiding the topic shitkid. You posted a pic of the capital to show it got 'infrastructure" and the urbanization rates I posted clashed with your BS. If Africans benefited from it you'd either see a high ass urbanization rate or you'd see cities allover the place. Yet none of that happened.
Many were quite good at it. Bit to mention African farmers do operate well (and exoanding in size) but are locked into selling and growing cash crops over food ones due to global market dynamics and niches
What do you mean by that you talking about colonialism? Transalantic slave trade? Roman Empire? This a broad question but likely they’d still trade with Europeans because that’s what eventually spurred what would later evolve into the following likely forming alliances and spheres of power oh btw you’re gonna get a lot racist arguments seething etc especially from Pedro and his folder
Dam I was right
They'd be like Thailand or something. A whole lot better off, acquire the same technology through trade and immigrants, but not a first rate power.
>They'd be like Thailand
Really? Thailand wasn't chaotic mess of thousands of tribes genociding and slaving each other.
Like Europe?
like Europe... ages ago.
Not exactly a lot if the heavy conflicts and wars still occured alongside mass population transfers and ejections.
>Whites colonialism isn't unique, everyone fought eachother!
>thai society was peaceful and never had tribal conflict, what makes you think Black folk could achieve that?
Why do you people bother arguing? Just make this a Black person hate thread already.
Far more likely that they’d be like Afghanistan. Maybe some coastal kingdoms would be like Thailand.
Afghanistan is more united than whatever the limbo Myanmar is stuck in.
Balkanized? When?
>Karen army
It's China's Yugoslavia, but they are shit at building independent nations.
Thailand's development in the first half of the 20th century was caused by the fact it was bordered by colonial empires
Thailand would be very different if colonialism hadn't been a thing
>there's a universe where the Vietnam War was a Iran-Iraq-war tier struggle in the jungle between the Thai and Vietnamese empires
VGH...
>it’s a crime to tell your king that he looks like a moron and his ass-crack is visible
>mfw
More like Cambodia, complete with wewuzzing for Great Zimbabwe.
>chaotic mess of thousands of tribes genociding and slaving each other
Thailand and the entire SEA is like that, even Europe was like that. Peace and stability only comes after enough has been removed to make ample space.
>More like Cambodia, complete with wewuzzing for Great Zimbabwe.
What the frick is that supposed to mean?
When colonialists arrived in the late 19th century, they brought photographic devices with them
We do know how Africa looked before colonialism
other than starvation this looks kino
The constant tribal wars, rampant slavery and horrific diseases were pretty shit too
But yeah, women going around topless was kinda kino I guess
Africa was basically in Iron Age before colonisation, and iron age was pure kino only second to bronze age. Also yep, iron age was riddled with tribal warfares and diseases.
compare this to zulus and see difference.
Also, moronic take but, Bantus were Sea-Invaders of Africa.
The Africans were pacing themselves. If those White Devils hadn't shown up, Africans would have gone from inventing the wheel to anti-gravity in the space of a century.
>this ONE picture is representative of ALL of Africa
have a nice day you slackjawed morons. stop talking about Africa as though it's a country
See Liberia and Ethiopia
that's why most of them were settled farmers before colonialism?
I’m gonna bet far worse off considering the only countries of not are ones where European built societies were handed over and subsequently slowly destroyed. This is speaking on subsaharan africa ofc
>This is speaking on subsaharan africa ofc
Malawi didn't receive infrastructure lmao.
Talking about Rhodesia and South Africa
Africans did not have access to that infrastructure (often times built by African labour) alongside the state basically pimping them out for private white interests. So not sure if those are good examples because those two states only made money and income off exploiting populations to do all the work
>Malawi didn't receive infrastructure lmao.
Yeah it did
From naked in prehistoric huts when whites arrived, to pic related at independence
Only a very small urban area. Look at the rest of the country or the stats that showed otherwise. Malawi's stats at the time of independence was pitiful and the vast majority of people did not live well..
It's urban rates in 1960 was 4.5% and in 2021 was 17%.
And before whitey it was around 0%
Stop avoiding the topic shitkid. You posted a pic of the capital to show it got 'infrastructure" and the urbanization rates I posted clashed with your BS. If Africans benefited from it you'd either see a high ass urbanization rate or you'd see cities allover the place. Yet none of that happened.
Go to historum africa board if you want actual arguments and discussions
I would argue like Ethiopia since it wans't colonized but they had the benefice of gargantuan humanitarian and development aid funds from the west.
Many were quite good at it. Bit to mention African farmers do operate well (and exoanding in size) but are locked into selling and growing cash crops over food ones due to global market dynamics and niches
Then the Arabs would have subjugated them
>Arabs would have subjugated them
Arabs were often pushed out. People heavily exaggerate Arabs.