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What Happened after 2018 that changed?
When did /fashion/ stop being about designers, smaller brands, and the larger fashion community
Not saying /fashion/ was ever well dressed, but i remember actually finding out about a lot of designers, brands, and iconic pieces from this board when i was younger, 2014-2017 era
men shouldnt be worrying about fa they should be working in the fields or herding horses and building a nice body and plowing my fields
Sell me the land and i’ll happily be plowing, but being a farmer doesn’t excuse looking like shit or explain my question about a chatboard that is centered around fashion
im sorry im sorry youre right youre right
you are forgiven
It is women who should not care. They should just all wear black niqabs
for what purpose
women should be styled by yohji
stupid pseud.
alright gay
He’s talking about workwear you moron.
actual fashion enthusiasm has been on a decline since 2011 or so, and the major influx of reddit and twitter exiles since the election has lowered the quality of all the boards overall.
>actual fashion enthusiasm has been on a decline since 2011 or so
yes and no, the industry is in a slump and filled with hacks recently so "real fashion" is pretty low but i think there’s still a lot more people into dressing well then there was in the early 2000s till 2010
I meant here on LULZ, not in general.
I guess Trump was LULZs peak in a way, international power moment and all downhill since
nah peak LULZ was 2004~2007
>after 2018
Newfag.
This board started to become irredeemable in 2013 and that was solidified as fact by 2014.
This + internet fashion has been ruined by being bundled into neat little packages and articles in which zoomers can read and purchase overpriced rags with #ARCHIVE plastered all over them from Grailed. Men’s fashion is absolute garbage compared to women’s fashion. It only starts to get interesting once you’re exclusively looking at extremely expensive high end or runway items which are impractical for the average person to wear both in terms of lifestyle and cost. Women’s fashion is just flat out better; more garment archetypes (skirts, dresses etc), more interesting clothing available at lower prices, can wear men’s clothing without looking stupid but men can’t wear womens etc. Most mens ‘fashion’ items rely too much on a logo to do the heavy lifting and often just resign to tshirts with a logo and so on.
>This board started to become irredeemable in 2013 and that was solidified as fact by 2014.
all the pre 2012 photos from this board look like shit
Pretty much already covers it, also fast fashion has become insanely easier to buy (and overbuy) than it ever was years ago.
Also I think social media or people in general want to fit in worse than they did in the past, Idk if this is because of phones or whatever becoming so prevalent, but lots of people even in fashion places just want affirmation and to fit in.
If you go to WAYWT threads here, or on reddit, they’re mostly the same because they’re now just full of a lot of people wanting to be told their outfit is good even if it’s hecking shit (check WAYWT rn, pretty much all the outfits can be summed up as "just clothes" at this point). Same goes for /r/streeetwear or /r/malefashionadvice, they only have surface level interests in fashion and won’t veer from light blue jeans + dunks, or dark blue jeans + clarks wallabees depending on which subreddit they’re in based on age. The same goes for lots of "hobbies" involving buying things now that I think about it.
Doesn’t help this board attracted loser schizos lowering post quality for quite a while due to being basically unmoderated and unwanted, also, mens fashion has become complete ass due to thirdies just wanting logos on t-/poloshirts
P.S. Ignore any of the hecking forced-optimism "journalists" who write shit about fashion being "SO LIBERATING AND FREE OF LABELS AND SO ACCESSIBLE AND OPEN AND FOR THE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE MIX AND MATCHING THINGS AND DOING WHATEVER THEIR HEART FEELS LIKE"
These people are lying and will always try to find a silver lining because it is literally their job, fashion as an industry has shrunk massively, been killed as an art form, and no amount of industry plants like harry styles, the curly hairedt rich persons daughter at bidens inauguration, telfar clemens or emily adams bode being wanked off in a GQ or Vogue article will make any of that true.
It’s still elitist and closed off, it’s just dying while doing it and pretending everything’s fine because some people with custom pronouns are now making the (smaller amount of) clothes only their socialite crowd can afford, with everyone else being much poorer and sticking to bland fast fashion because they don’t want to stick out or save up. (Do not interpret this as bashing poor people, fashion has also gotten way more expensive like most hecking things so largely their bland clothes choices aren’t really choices at all, it’s all they can afford)
summer 2015 was the last good time on /fashion/, god i miss dada lol
this is demonstrably wrong the men’s industry exploded between 2010 and 2020, womans industry still strong as ever, normies in every flyover state now ‘care’ about fashion
woman who like yohji are space cadets and BPD whores, avoid at all costs, find a nice girl who likes MM6, phoebe’s celine, prada etc.
this implies that internet fashion was 1. ever good 2. ever anything but forcing design into a series of ‘neat little packages’
eh, reddit suffers same issue as LULZ does, its dead fashion forum, everyone has long moved to instagram and since then tiktok, or they’ve stopped posting entirely as they’ve aged out of fashion realizing they never bothered to take care of their bodies and now look like dog shit, just look at styleforum if you don’t know what i mean
you’re almost there, push a little bit further
fashion has never been art, what are you going on about , and designer fashion has never appealed to the kind of people who are now "much poorer" what are you even talking about LOL
>fashion has never been art
??? Why are you even on this board
>MM6, phoebe’s celine, prada etc.
Plebeian brands, you pleb.
>he wants an autistic gf
because i like fashion and know way more about than stupid little teenagers like you who go around thinking fashion is an artform lol
Damn you’re totally right brah, clothes should be FUNCTIONAL and exude a sense of TIMELESS STYLE, that’s why today I’m partnering with sponsor mayo-shirt. Mayo-shirt is THE go-to brand for when YOU want to dress like a bland white guy who thinks fashion should just be for looking better than the other tech-workers at the barcade. They have over 300 (THREE HUNDRED) slim fit blue oxford shirts alone, which when paired with a SLEEK pair of skinny fit chinos, you KNOW you’ll have ALL the spicy senorita’s in HR calling your name. Now you can strut around the office knowing you’re cock of the walk WITHOUT having to lower yourself to the level of those who think fashion should be about fruity "art"
As you don’t care about fashion and this will likely go over your head, the tl;dr version is go back to /r/malefashionadvice if you think being immature and dismissive of things greater than you will somehow elevate you above them, idiot.
i own more designer clothing than probably anyone on this board please stop seething that fashion is design and not art u stupid little baby
this is a big part yeah but this happens literally every couple of year, old posters move out new ones come in
yeah i mean /fashion/ has always been a place to shitpost about clothes, drop a few posts here, learn a little there, it was never designed to be a "community" or social thing for serious conversation lol
Reddit has better fashion communities and more dedicated posters than LULZ does. If Reddit was coming here, the quality would have gone up, not down.
Cool, you should go back there and never post here again.
nice virginia creeper fit
Because autistic redditors invaded this board who’s fashion style range from blank t shirt and jeans to polo shirt and shorts. hecking boring failed normies are now the majority here unfortunately. Just look at the clowns in the WAYWT threads posting their “fits” of their jeans + plain t shirts it’s like if I went to a hair forum and posted my buzzcut absolute hecking cringe this board is
you’re new it was actually after 2016 when the whole board got political.
>decline of general fashion
I blame it on Kanye/Pop artists/Social Media/the West Coast, and big fashion houses caving in. They go where the money is.
Louis Vuitton prefer the fat american b***h who has a walk-in closet with dozen of bags than the 30 something boujie european girl who will buy one or two bags.
>decline of the board /fashion/
I blame it on zoomers turning 16+.
Also eastern europeans and other third worlders getting access to internet and lowering the level.
>I blame it on Kanye
what? He’s been talked about on here since forever. Kanye hate is stupid when he himself has changed fashion for the past decade or so.
He also gave rise to off white becoming the behemoth that it did because of his influence. For hot the other black guys name who was the designer.
Kanye’s brand pushes streetwear cancer. He is partly responsible for making blacks the new fashion icons and their tastes the vogue. The results have been catastrophic.
Kanye was the moment, but he was upstaged by Virgil. Grailed was the platform, but they sold out. Fashion forums were just the last refuge before the poison seeped through. Now it’s a bunch of poor teenagers having so much style to choose from and the sheer amount of that choice that it’s no different than shopping at target and thinking it looks good.
Corona happened and lots of people had to search for new hobbies as they couldn’t go out and get hecked up every other day anymore.
it was pretty easy to go and get hecked everyday during the pandemic
Is that a raincoat?
you know there’s going to be people claiming to be oldfags and how "2018-2024" were the good old days in 2038 or some shit and it’s going to be about as pathetic then as it is now
name one /fashion/ meme that came out of that period
No. This board lost all designer discussion by 2018 and everything revolved around forced meme trends from then on, like Dark Academia, that were never authentic.
>The "good old days" was when Casemods spammed his ugly face on this board 24/7.
>2018
lol
rightoids finding out about LULZ really killed any point in discussing things related to art or aesthetics here, because they’re totally incapable of understanding them
/fashion/ was never a high fashion board it was for autists to try and dress slightly better in theory and in practice for tripfags to jerk each other off.
your dream of where we’re all watching shows stream together and making intelligent commentary about designers and their visions is ridiculous.
Bro you were never here in the golden period. Even with all the namefags. There was such a contribution to particular interest, quality of discussion and group fashion show streams that today’s /fashion/ is a discount dollar tree shadow of the somewhat annoying, but on topic threads that lasted years at a given time
Baloney
I’ve been here since the beginning and it has always been extremely slow and filled with trolls and only the occasional intelligent person who sees the atrocity and leaves in disgust.
Then guess what, you were a poorfag. The off topic threads that get prime time action now would get scoffed at back then in the boards feed. If you weren’t taking advantage of grailed when it first took off you missed out on the opportunity to take part in techwear, lunar core, darkstyle and whatever other emerging designer created to the landscape or online board trend between fashion enthusiasts along the likes of style zeitgeist, /fashion/ and rakuten could offer you. Before it was all swallowed and sanitized every hobby known to man by reddit. A lot of the same people that we hated on also contributed their favorite indie brands and helped each other find grails on top of notifying the board when upcoming fashion shows were happening. Also recommended books on certain couture houses and films that showcased certain trends emerging and fashion magazine for inspiration. If your not in your late 20 to early 30s now refining your style that you enjoy. Not what other people tell you to enjoy then you just had a phase for fashion and that’s fine, but this board was full of culture at one point and that’s all gone now because fast fashion, Reddit, and mindless consumerism took over. Slayter and knoch will always be to pages in /fashion/s history that I’m fond of because it was the peak and downfall before we had actual losers just hang around a dead board. We can’t even have conversations about selvage denim or certain sewing techniques because the people interested in all that moved on. I get people grow up, but this place was a huge time capsule that kept up with the landscape of style ever evolving before it stopped completely. Also that black tranny that post here is by far the ugliest monkey poster we have ever had. Even that Indian girl who use to post here her name escapes me would make a
Better tranny.
Tripsk. She actually cared about high fashion and real designer, but towards the end here, whenever she posted, either nobody contributed or responded to her contributions, or just spewed hate at her. I wouldn’t want to waste my time hanging with stupid losers who ignore my effort and call me a skank whenever they see me.
I love that b***h, she pushed through and her taste got better with time before she moved on.
Slowness is one thing, but mitigated when there’s a dozen threads that interest you to float between and interact while waiting for content in the others.
These days it is not only slow, but also has only a handful of threads you’ll find of interest to you and worth going into. Not only is this board agonizingly slow now, but it is glutted with shallow rubbish, which exacerbates the problem as you die waiting for the thread you’re monitoring to pick up.
Meanwhile the cumbr4in, bland generals, and political shitflinging threads bloat massively quickly.
Yep
Nobody is trying to paint old /fashion/ as a Utopia. However, it will appear that way very easily when contrasted to the contemporary state of affairs.
early rick discord was like that, 30 people in a discord call watching rick show livestreams and talking about it. now its just troons and gays echo chamber sucking each other off and the best people left long ago.
>autists to try and dress slightly better in theory
that literally is the high fashion community though
High fashion isn’t autistic.
It actually is. Being meticulous about the finer details makes you a nerd aka a loser. Just because you surround yourself with beautiful young people doesn’t make your collection of clothing good. It’s about how you force change on the youth by influence and subversion. It’s when the couture houses are dying. That type of clientele is a aging breed. Why do you think reputable fashion houses collaborated with street fashion. Relevance.
In order to grasp aesthetics, you need to be of higher intellect and intellectual leaning, both anathema to the mass market.
I’m not saying Luxury brands are perfect. You know what Balenciaga was putting out not many years ago before they’ve become known today for futuristic looking althletic shoes many people are pining for? Godawful boxy oversized baggy clothing, which was an aesthetic, cultural, and commercial failure. You know what Rick Owens was known for? Baggy low crotch shin-length short pants, the sole cultural legacy of which has been LIZARDON MEGA SHINKA boy.
The "designers" in charge of luxury high fashion have indeed been getting many things wrong for many years, but because of the shifting consumer base, they feel pressured to cave to lowbrow tastes as their course correction, instead of psuhing contrarian memes not a single soul on earth genuinely treasures.
It has nothing to do with autism. It is simply contrarian hubris that nearly Icarus’d the industry, and forced them to land in Laconia of boors.
Autism is when dumb gays stream in here from other boards and ask to be told how to upgrade from their khaki shorts and new balance shoes-based fits for less than $100, and talkdown on everything related to higher end fashion like it’s worthless (when in fact they just utterly lack comprehension).
You completely defeated the basis of your argument by your first statement. It does not matter how much you understand the history of a fashion house, but by how you create and propagate your ideas and art to the masses that will result in the changing landscape. Influencing the upper tier of clientele to even allow that house the opportunity to dilute it’s art for the average consumer to attain a piece of it. Things never change just the players, the houses making creative moves to stay relevant in today’s market has more to do with poor business moves than some culture shift.
Designers never had anything to do with the masses. They neither influenced nor were influenced by. Now designers act like dogs chasing after average consumers after failing to appeal to their hitherto actual base of uppercrust, and now that they have stooped to that level they have lost the high end.
What are you talking about when the cerulean sweater by Di Lorenzo Serafink exist? That whole collection influenced the trickle down effect of his influence to ripple all the way down to some nobody that doesn’t even understand. The clothes are their back are chosen for them by a small collection of people behind the scenes.
All you had to say was it’s a phase for some people. It’s no different than any other hobby out there. Those designers have a greater calling leaving their mark among their peers and contributing to techniques and emerging styles combinations that could influence the next stage of counter culture. Clothes to a greater extent are political statement wether it be against certain societal expectations or the ethos of an emerging movement.
>All you had to say was it’s a phase for some people.
That wasn’t what I was saying at all. Your own post isn’t even relevant to that statement either.
>tripfags to jerk each other off.
Trip users were the best posters. Their desire for recognition and actual community had no downsides for this board.
because designer fashion is too feminine and gay (and so are LARPing reddit gays in workwear/streetwear just to get that out of the way). it’s all womanly leftoid bullshit. this board needs more chad fashion
>pretending to oldfag
>reddit spaced
every time
This entire website got co-opted by literal Nazis. I linger because I can’t go anywhere else, nothing is like what LULZ used to be. The boomer tourists and group think morons have stifled all discussion. Just look at the tattoo thread, it’s full of people that think tattoos are for ‘degenerates’. How is that supposed to work?
you’re a stupid if you think nazis ruined /fashion/. i will show you one major culprit, in my opinion.
people with a similar mindset to pic related. she is highly narcissistic. she doesn’t see that it’s bizarre for her to think the way she does.
the narcissists definition of fairness is like…
>i get 100% of what i want, all of the time, with no cost to me
so on /fashion/ that is anti-content posters. like they will talk shit on your taste or your fit but they will never ever post what they like let alone a fit of their own.
they will not even give you real criticism.
because all of those things would be an opening for you to call them the tasteless ugly shitheads that they are.
i believe lookism brought these people to /fashion/ and /fit/ and made them much worse places.
i think two things made the older /fashion/ better. one was lookism and zoomers weren’t really a thing yet.
one is there were genuinely attractive tripfags there.
the tripfags were obnoxious as heck but an anonymous shithead would have a hard time calling casemods ugly because he would know that is ridiculous enough that people would call him out for it and he wants to avoid pain to himself.
Your post is muddled.
The thrust is that the average user today is less self-aware and more entitled, while also being less talented. Zoomers streamed in and now form the majority, and their generational psychology is at odds with the values of the board prior. Tripcode users generally knew what they were talking about and eschewed anonymity in order to facilitate higher-level discourse. Now that they have departed the board is left without dilettantes nor even a salon atmosphere.
>less self-aware and more entitled, while also being less talented.
You just described a narcissist, my dude.
I think either those people were not here before or tripfags could stuff their nerd arses into lockers before, figuratively speaking.
As long as everyone is anon these guys can pretend they are better than everyone.
On ye olde /fashion/ they could not pretend they were better than a tripgay that was confirmed good looking.
heck it
I’m coming back tomorrow with a trip and im gonna post more of this stuff
Someones gotta teach these kids something
come back with actual receipts so we can see how much you’re clearing every month after customs loses your packages for 3 months
Thats funny because that first raf shirt I posted actually got lost in transit from Australia for like 3 months during the worst part of the pandemic, I thought it was a goner 🙁
But as far as receipts idk if I’d feel comfortable sharing that sorta stuff on LULZ lol
I’m not really here to flex wealth or anything, just history and knowledge, like I said I just do this for the love of it and to keep my wardrobe growing. I’m not some sigma grindset dude.
It gets pretty exhausting hunting, photographing, editing, and posting everything myself.
But maybe if I build enough inventory and infrastructure (maybe even hire some people) I just might
as someone who has actually run an import business, your naivete about the cost of doing business in a bureaucracy is astounding
good luck
How can I be naive about doing business when I’ve built an entire wardrobe from nothing?
I managed to do exactly what I set out to do, build a self sustaining hobby.
seems like you just have a much more negative outlook on the future of your business, point blank
I dont know why you have a such hard time running your business but dont take it out on me lmaoo
My margins arent that tight.
His "import business" was dropshipping aliexpress buttcoin miner usb sticks on eBay. He had to shut down since the listing he bought from was a scam too lmfao.
lmao thats exactly what i thought when i heard some vague shit like "import business"
It’s that or buying fentanyl off DA DARK WEB, except he never got the product for resale since the listing was also a scam.
i was importing silver hebrewelry from mexico and most of it got stolen en route by people who worked within Fedex and UPS and Customs and you would get told your package disappeared and then 6 months later they found an empty box and "just insure it bro!" so we insure it and then customs claims taxes of 30% on it or else they keep it.
i guess the difference is yours is a "hobby" so you don’t actually deal with anything of value or expect to make money
So the "hobbyist" businessman is able to consistently turn a profit while you lost your entire investment (total loss). Guess he’s the more successful business person then by every objective metric. lol, lmao even.
you can go to reddit where you fit in gayboy
tattoos are degenerate. only gay people and criminals have tattoos.
He’s a gay criminal. You should have known this by now.
Is there a better fashion "forum" around high fashion? Only place I’ve seen is Instagram.
No.
That’s not a forum, that another mindless feed. It has a greater impact when discussions can actually be archived.
I started browsing /fashion/ in late 2016, and at that time Rick Owens was still the Gentoo of /fashion/. You can argue however much you want about the actual quality of his brand or how many people were merely posturing adherence, but what it underpins is that there was still a connection to high fashion and exclusive designer brands, tinged with the LULZner propensity for darkness. It was still elitist and therefore sufficiently authentic.
The board continued mostly the same way up through early 2017. It’s after that that I got the distinct sense things were going downhill. It amounts to a variety of issues.
For one, new people were more like tourists than community members.
To this day, they come here and make the catalogue a /sqt/. They ask to be spoonfed on all sorts of matters they demonstrate not the slightest bit of knowledge about or a real interest in, and serve no one’s enlightment but their own. A consumer help forum is not a place to discuss philosophical considerations, technical advancements, and personal aesthetic decisions. Them doing this drove down the overall quality of the board severely by flooding it with worthless threads.
The fashion world as a whole has gotten progressively casualized since then, thanks to the rise of streetwear and worship of Black culture. Most people want to dress basic or like teenagers now, and more and more brands debase themselves to cater to this market and legitimize their preferences, which caused a feedback loop of the average person, who ends up on this board, to have a taste for lowbrow designs. It is nothing to be ashamed of, and overtime in fact becomes increasingly a refuge from shame due to "tryhard" deviation from it. And that is the kind of person who otherwise would have given more lip service to genuine designer brands as /fashion/ of old used to do; the actual vast majority are poorgays who neither can or want to spend money for highbrow stuff and literally cannot comprehend the value in it.
Cont.
And so you have an /fashion/overrun with clueless, uneducated, uncultured, disinterested boors.
Worse still, because of the rest of the site, they see the website as a whole as nothing more than an entertainment platform to get their jollies off. Trolling and shitposting outnumbered general discursive posts and further flooded the board with worthless garbage.
Over time, people with something worth saying realize the unfavorable trend and give up contributing. Less good content, less people to push good content, the deluge of piss surges. The newfags own the board wholly. The blind leading the blind.
It unironically coincides with the coming of age of zoomers. It is entirely a feature of their generation to be obnoxiously plebeian.
This is a dead board now. It is several times slower than it was those years ago, which is proof there is no fond community here.
>What Happened after 2018
tranny jannies and hasbara bots
I was here from the first week. I surely haven’t posted all the way through. Moot updated the site and this plus half a dozen more boards were born. It was awful from inception. There was some beaner tripgay named J that had obnoxious belt buckles and stupid white leather boots. A little later that spoony whore and that miranda gay. Rays of actual good content DID shine through at times. Last couple years when i check in this place just feels like a quora thread or some discord hangout for grody flyover losers.
So you aren’t into any of that? If you were you would have mentioned anything of relevance to fashion other than the cool kids club hecked around till You didn’t see them anymore. Thanks for contributing nothing like the flyover posters you speak of.
Its funny that you are so hostile. Take your little pills aiden. As far as people actually engaging in the fashion world superfuture and mensstyleforum were better. The latter maintains this.
You speak in soliloquies. Might aswell you captain obvious.
We have gays unironically proud of being on the spectrum posting here now:
(satirizing some troll who lived in his head RENT FREE for more than a week)
(whole thread)
They’re not trolls. They’re genuine autistic stupids.
See
>It is entirely a feature of their generation to be obnoxiously plebeian.
is correct, but it’s more like being as obnoxious as possible.
Hitherto they stayed off the board since fashion isn’t autistic or were quickly shooed out. Now there is no gatekeeping, and the spergs and simpletons just come and go as they please.
fashion is very autistic you are dumb
It’s not just /fashion/. I’ve been seeing the same puerile posting and schizo feuds/"""investigations""" between anons for the last few years now all across LULZ. It just ramped up really high due to the pandemic lockdowns allowing dumbheck zoomers to shitpost on LULZ undetected when they’re remote learning whatever is left of the dumbed down public school curriculum.
I honestly feel like because a lot of the fashion history that gave it all its context is lost and forgotten. Or just wasnt properly handed down.
I remember there being a lot of people in here with crazy archive pieces before they were worth $1000s of dollars several years ago
Maybe its gatekeeping idk, but there are very few resources to discover and learn about the past 20-30 years of fashion and how we got to where we’re at today.
Or maybe its just that fast fashion has made people not care. Also "Alternative" culture and fashion isnt even alternative anymore, if thats even the right word for it.
Everything is a commodity now. Whats even real anymore? Is there even a final frontier left for us to protect?
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Without the history, knowledge, and context I presume that to all these kids they just see evil corporate brands selling overpriced clothes.
It kinda makes me sad that people today dont get it. They cant comprehend fashion as an art form.
They dont realize that there is real fashion history out there ripe for the picking. I dont own any paintings but I sure as heck have raf pieces hanging on my wall that will do nothing but appreciate in value. (pic related)
Meanwhile you have these losers who dont even wanna spend $20 on a t-shirt, but in a way theyre right. Those $20 t-shirts you get at the mall are worthless the moment they leave the store. Nobody wants that shit. If you’re lucky you’ll get like $7 for it on depop after it sits there for 10 months
This shit is more important than people realize, you gotta know your history to make informed buying decisions and not just buying mass produced worthless crap. But how are these kids supposed to know?? At the very least learn to buy something that actually holds its value.
Average people don’t care about history. See Champion.
Yes I know, it’s sad knowing that stupid shit selling. At Walmart became the avalanche that it did.
Its depressing pulling up to walmart or target and seeing enormous stacks of Nickelodeon and Metallica shirts.
Back in the day these clothes meant something, now theyre just some rich asshole’s bottom line.
>Nickelodeon and Metallica
>will do nothing but appreciate in value
naive take
things only appreciate in value if people continue to want to buy them
nobody is gonna want a shitty ink jet print tshirt anymore than people want an 18th century rococo dining room commode or sammy sosa baseball cards
naive of you to think that raf simons shirts are printed on an inkjet or even DTG lol…
These are vibrant screen printed graphics on shirts that are actually cut from precise patterns in Italy. Not on mass produced Gildan tees in china. In fact there are only 2 of these shirts in circulation rn.
Raf Simons is already cemented in Punk and New Wave history.
Original Vivienne Westwood Seditionaries pieces from the late 1970s are $1,000s of dollars now because shes the godmother of punk. This history isnt just going away, not in our lifetimes, or even our grandkids lifetimes.
You’ve got a lot of studying to do.
Do you have any resources/books you would recommend? The only book on fashion I have is Gods and kings.
I would get the helmut lang archive books the one with "1987-2005" on the spine and maybe the Vivienne Westwood catwalk book
but thats really all just personal taste.
A book i can recommend that isnt about fashion but actually color theory that I found really good, its called "Kelvin: Color Today"
Ty will have a look.
Is there even a digitized version of the Helmut book? Tried looking around for it and found nothing.
not publicly available no
There are innumerable smaller labels who have no physical storefront and are exclusively e-commerce and nearly impossible to find via hebrewgle. I saw a lot of vegan brands like that.
You would need to stop paying attention to mainstream outlets and look for the little guys making niche stuff nobody has heard of. Modern /fashion/ doesn’t even understand the fundamentals and basics; trying to share next-level, more esoteric stuff would be a waste of time and energy. You need for all the stupids to heck off and open space back up for actual fashion enthusiasts to return and make engaging content.
yeah either that or just shop vintage
I score $30 vintage tees all day on ebay and resell them to affluent kids for $100
you just gotta be commited to the hunt. Thats how I afford all the nice clothes I own.
I flip so many clothes its like a self sustaining hobby to the point where I’m really not losing any money.
Meanwhile people will waste hundreds of dollars every year on useless mall garbage.
When you’re buying shit that cheap, reselling and getting your money back is never an option.
At that point your wardrobe is literally just a liability. Malls are literally just evil to me.
bullshit
you would have to sell 100 vintage t-shirts to buy anything nice and we all know the market isn’t that large
Um how expensive do you think this stuff is???
Where are you going? To Balenciaga looking at the most expensive coat in the store???
Literally just browse Grailed, Depop, Vestiarie, even Therealreal has steals.
Its all about know the history and knowing exactly what to buy. If you see something you love in store literally just wait for the next season cycle and shit will be 70% off
I copped this 90s Vivienne Westwood belt for $170 by lowballing some dude in Malaysia and have had people offer me $325 for it, but I want at least $400 for it
These are MY pictures too, I looks for steals online, take nice pics of them and literally just repost them for profit. Its THAT easy.
>chained heart bound by crown and pierced
yeah, don’t do this to your heart
it needs to be free to pump oxygen
Still dont believe me?
Heres a Vetements Ecstasy shirt from 2020
(demnas last official collection)
I paid $250 (2 and a half vintage shirts) shipped from a guy in Korea because I jumped on it fast, and it got shipped to France for authentication before coming to me.
These go for $600-800 all day
I’m genuinely appalled that you think its that hard lol. Its literally some of the easiest money I’ve ever made in my life
You know why he thinks it’s hard? He’s a stupid gay that pays full price to (You) even though he can’t afford it on his McPaycheck since he doesn’t know what a thrift store is. Every vintage (re)seller in the world has to deal with these prissy gays. Just collect their money and tell them to heck off. It’s all they’re good for anyways.
And its not like its limited to clothes either,
you can do this with practically any hot commodity
For vintage t-shirts, does repairing them hurt resale value? I bought an 80’s vintage t-shirt at a thrift store with some edgelord skull + motto print which is missing quite a bit of stitching at the bottom hem. It wouldn’t be hard to do since all I have to do is sew a straight line with thread that matches the cloth color, but I’d rather not if it makes it worthless.
For shirts, if its distressed I usually just leave it alone. I do repair vintage levis and stuff tho
If the distressing is near the bottom or on the shoulders it really shouldnt affect value that much. It really sucks tho when a shirt has a hole like dead center of the chest or something. A nice fade can bring up the value too. Just peep the type of stuff unsound rags sells for like $70-100 theyre the blueprint for selling pricey vintage
Heres a crystal castles shirt with some amazing distressing that I think really just makes it more valuable, I think it was eaten by moths or something but it just looks sooo good
This one is NFS tho and part of my personal collection, ive actually had Joy_Divizn on instagram begging me to buy this one if you even know who that is lol
sewing knits is much more difficult than you would think
don’t attempt it unless you know what you’re doing
How did you learn about fashion and all these brands?
and heres a third one for good measure
Helmut Lang "Janus In Leather Jacket" long sleeve shirt from AW2004
I paid less than $200 for it even tho they used to float around for like $270
Now theyre so rare I can charge practically whatever I want for it and a diehard helmut fan will come along and buy it eventually, its listed for $600
This right here is the answer to the whole conundrum of why this board sucks.
These kids are lost and dont know how to make a dime. They dont know how to dream anymore. Giving up before they even start.
Have you seen the cost of shipping, boomer?
You think that the world is still running on bicentennial fumes.
huh? what are you getting at?
shipping a t-shirt cost like $9, or $14 for something bigger like bigger pants, a jacket, and shoes without a box, and thats just flat rate because I’m too lazy to weight and measure my own boxes. You could ship for even cheaper than that
Dumbheck kids probably don’t even know what a post office is anymore. I’ve met some who don’t know how to fill out an envelope to send shit, whether it’s writing the address or buying stamps/postage. Hell, some were shocked you had to pay for postage since it’s not like that on amazon.
This isn’t new either. 10 years ago when I was in college I used to run a resale business out of my dorm. My classmates thought I was a hecking drug dealer since I would drop shit off at the campus post office every day.
so let’s go through the numbers:
You buy a tshirt for $30 and pay $9 shipping then you sell it for $70 and pay $9 shipping and make a profit?
OIC you make them pay shipping and then the big bucks start rolling in while you drive to FedEx to drop off packages all day
Or you can just drop them off at a set time every day as part of your morning commute, but that requires planning, forethought, and efficiency, to much for the ritalin-addicted zoomer brain to comprehend.
When I say I buy a shirt for $30 that includes the shipping lol
Also the buyer pays the shipping genius, when they buy a $100 shirt from me they pay $109
Shit you can even price a shirt for $110 and offer "free" shipping and someone will still buy it lmaoo
it doesnt come out of my pocket at all.
You talk about it like making money is some sort of impossible fairytale
>making money
Just print your own, bro!
even better is I dont even have to go to the post office and waste gas either, I just schedule a pick up at my front door while I sit on LULZ drinking coffee lmao
not to mention places like ebay and shipstation can give you give you an extra $1.50 Its really not much when you’re selling a shirt for $100.
If anything its the marketplace fees that rape you, which is why its better to sell on instagram, directly thru paypal which has a really low fee. Or if you really trust someone Venmo or Zelle for pure profit.
yeah i was gonna say if you’re using a marketplace your profits are like 10 bucks lol, that’s not worth it at all, even then selling thrift shit is such a waste of time just get good and sell the expensive shit like a normal person
Yeah when I’m using depop and grailed I have no choice but to tax people to make up for the fees.
You can get banned for coordinating offsite transations on grailed,
but I do it on depop all the time, I have my instagram in my bio and people already know to hmu directly on there for the best price
fast fashion lets me look just as good as designer gays
Actually, looking at this board in general, the reason it died isn’t just because in general actual fashion became less interesting, it’s because gays like in this thread gatekept while not knowing what they were even gatekeeping.
Old users (as seen in this thread) largely didn’t move on from their styles, the board stagnated, the moderators and users who actually cared about fashion moved on, and as far as I can tell it’s just a dumping ground of schizos, whining oldfags (pot, kettle) and drive by shitposts now, I almost feel I shouldn’t have insulted reddit like that because it’s ironically better than this place at this point lmao. All these posts wanking off dead tripfags, why didn’t any of those people take their place if they think the concepts so good?
Anyway this sites full of anti-intellectual and anti-cultural stupids now so what do you expect, they have their preconceived notions of what looks good and come here to get angry people have different taste, if anyone doubts that just look at tattoo threads.
Not everyone has time to be online 24/7 and police every awful post or thread, and even if they attempted, that still leaves 8 hours of the day for garbage to go unchallenged. After so many attempts to control the garbage, but seeing no results, there is a high possibility of exhaustion and forfeit.
The new users since 2018 do not care about or understand real fashion, and they stream in in droves. It was impossible to prevent the board from becoming majority them and tainted.
Again, it’s very largely the fault of zoomers coming online. This board went on well for at least 7 years, you can verify that by perusing Warosu, before things started nosediving with their coming of age. And now that they are the majority for four years or so now, this catalog is the result: half qtddtot about their personal fashion failings, a quarter shitpost bait threads, a quarter generals, and a tiny sliver of threads that are actually worth browsing and discussing in.
You clearly take offense because you are of this cancerous ilk.
the problem is long whinging posts like this that bump actual good content above the fold
Sorry gramps not everyone would drag their recessed chin across 3 miles of broken glass just to boop rick owens decrepit snoot, if you can’t see that we’re arguing in agreement about the state of the board despite our different tastes and your bad posthumous gatekeeping, then you’re an idiot.
The only difference is I don’t wank off a "golden era" of /fashion/ which was primarily based around 4 styles, because obviously THAT wouldn’t last forever due to shifting trends and the passage of time. And as for zoomers, while lots of them are stupid, there would still be some who get into actual fashion, the difference is they’re doing it in different places from here because this board has zero activity, moderators don’t care, and schizos and shitposts stay up forever so they think "why the heck would I post here and not to my instagram circlejerk". And for the record your kind of attitude contributes to that.
Regardless it’s a chicken vs the egg thing at this point so this board will likely stay this way until moron-moot starts cutting down dead boards to "save" money, I’ve always thought they’ll do that and if they do this board is definitely one that will go.
>Old users (as seen in this thread) largely didn’t move on from their styles, the board stagnated, the moderators and users who actually cared about fashion moved on
I would contend older users grew out of internet fashion. Its cool flipping grails and flexing on normies in your 20s, but at some point, unless you’re committed to the hobby and live in a major urban center (and why would you in >current year) it goes from being a style to a costume. A big part of fashion is knowing how to dress for your environment and the reality is that most oldfags’ environment has changed a lot. So thats part of it but I don’t think its the whole picture, because while personal styles may change there’s still the knowledge of design history and clothing construction picked up over 10+ years of /fashion/. I think its also that most people coming in now got into fashion through much more democratic but also more postmodern means (insta/tiktok/celeb culture). They’re only interested in copying a look for peer approval and don’t give a single shit about how their outfit fits into fashion history and they probably don’t even know how to articulate what they’re trying to evoke with their clothing choices other than clout and drip.
Yeah definitely, and when I said users I meant it quite literally, as in continued users of this site, the rest of people unaccounted for would have just moved on entirely like you say.
And I forgot to mention that above too I guess, that a much larger amount now are just wanting to "fit in" which has always been the case but tiktoks made it worse, everytime I’ve been sent fashion stuff from there it’s painfully treated like tutorials
Around that time they started employing ugly Black folk & morons & pakis as models everywhere. H&M, Urban Outfitters, Zara, etc
And now nonwhite models are the majority, and white male models avoided whenever possible.
I was here all the hecking time from 2010-2014 and then grew out of it. I got what I needed – to look and dress better than average during my youth. I got the hitler youth so damn early in my area that I got shit for it and literally the next year everyone had the same cut. I did feel a decline every year though. God if I had known raf and rick was actually CHEAP as heck then I would’ve bought a shitload with no remorse.
Also I can’t believe people who started browsing /fashion/ or the chan 2016 onwards are lecturing about board culture. You’ll always be newgay tourists.
>God if I had known raf and rick was actually CHEAP as heck then I would’ve bought a shitload with no remorse.
Eh. You might be better off not having done that. I did buy that shit and cheap maybe, but it still feels like it adds up to a ton of pretty much wasted money for all the wrong reasons.
When people realized that designers and brands are cringe as heck. Just look at your picrel.
Go with the times or go oldfag.
Remember when this board used to be nothing but Rick Owens circlejerk threads?