What good did the Venetians ever do?
All they did was steal stuff and destroy things.
What good did the Venetians ever do? All they did was steal stuff and destroy things.
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Most of Italy had ports, and Venice was a power to be reckoned with
The world’s #1 manufactured of glass for centuries, hundreds of talented painters, sculptors, musicians like Vivaldi, architects like Palladio
The Venetian Republic was the strongest Italian power for centuries, was one of the primary centers of the Renaissance (along with Parma and Firenze) due to its own internal conditions and its relation to Greece that later facilitated Byzantine migration and had a navy that could contend with the Ottomans and keep them away from Europe for a long time while they squabbled over outposts in the Aegean and Ionian. Their trade stretched quite literally across the world and spread culture and goods to Europe (Murano glass, coffee, paper, gold), with Venetian trade beads having been uncovered in America dating back to before Colombo.
They were a sovereign power that played a large role and not only is its existence and prosperity impressive, but also seminal to our own civilization, having been a player in many key historical events such as the sack of Constantinopolis and the immense artistic library it left for us in the form of architecture, music, painting, etc.
Its downfall came primarily from its failure to get along with European powers, leading the Pope + France + Ottomans to squash them and their primary source of power - the navy.
A legendary navy and maritime tradition, by the way, that had streamlined ship building far better than its contemporaries and mapped much of the geographical world and created a global cartography market used by the Chinese, Turks and Arabs as well as Europeans.
>A legendary navy and maritime tradition, by the way, that had streamlined ship building far better than its contemporaries
Too bad Genoa destroyed them on sea most of the times and controlled much of the traffic in the Mediterranean sea
>controlled much of the traffic in the Mediterranean sea
Proofs? Why did they not mint anywhere near as much as their rivals in Italy and resorted to forgery of Venetian ducats with lower purity? Why did they never build anything of note even in their banking era when they became bitches of the Spanish and French? Why are their biggest accomplishments being the birthplace of a ginger israelite and an emulsion?
Simple answer: they never controlled dick and were merely useful subjects of their natural allies. Not in the same class as Venice
>Its downfall came primarily from its failure to get along with European powers, leading the Pope + France + Ottomans to squash them and their primary source of power - the navy.
Nah, they got fucked because trade starting moving west, which fucked the Venetians source of prosperity which was dominating trade routes from the Levant to Europe.
>trade starting moving west
This happened primarily because of the Ottoman expansion (the same one that also took Venetian possessions when Italian Wars autism was happening with other powers). The Portuguese and Spanish would have probably still had the Discovery age at some point though that would divert importance from the Mediterranean sea, but the Suez canal became the natural response to that.
>Venetian leaders, driven to desperation, contemplated digging a waterway between the Red Sea and the Nile
>Despite entering negotiations with Egypt's ruling Mamelukes, the Venetian plan to build the canal was quickly put to rest by the Ottoman conquest of Egypt in 1517
This was the beginning of the slow death of the navy.
Not many know that the Venetians gave a lot of ships to the Mamluks of Egypt to fight the Portuguese in the Indian Ocean
>The Venetian Republic the strongest Italian power for centuries and was one of the primary centers of the Renaissance along with Firenze
True.
>and Parma
Let me guess where you are from anon.
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They built every costal city in Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro, and brought civilization to Greece. Croatians and Montenegrins would still be living in mud huts eating lamb entrails if it weren’t for Venezia
>They built every costal city in Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro
No they didn't. Dubrovnik, Split, etc were very developed maritme ports with hundreds of ships BEFORE Vencice conquered them
> and brought civilization to Greece.
Oh ok, you're a troll. Well I'm still gonna post this to inform the rest of the posters who are not troll and might be interested.
Ik It hurts but picrel does not mean that It was croats, sorry
Retard, Ragusa/Dubrovnik was and is Slavic
Retard, it reached its apogee in 1440-1490 when it was an independent republic
They made me a nice pair of glasses and the best pizza I've ever tasted
But they also kind of ruined the Crusades
>What good did the Venetians ever do?
Nothing outside of trying to contain the Ottomans and providing an intellectual haven from Papal influence in Italy. Shockingly cruel empire of profit obsessed slave traders and merchants.
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It was consistently one of the most cruel and perfidious medieval/renaisance powers. Its telling that the had at no point any real allies. Only reason for why the survived that long was the defensive position of the lagoon. In the battlefield the were notoriously shit at it, they got their asses handed to them by several other powers like Genoa or Byzantines.
>Only reason for why the survived that long was the defensive position of the lagoon.
Yes, nevermind that said position was challenged like twice between Carloman and Napoleon (and both times on the naval side at that), surely the reason why venetians conquered half the Po Plain and kept it away from frogs and hremperors was that they were hard to dig out of the lagoon, for sure.
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