In response to this? Her profile already has "long-term partner" written, along with a bio reading "Relationship oriented only."
What exactly does a woman expect me to say?
In response to this? Her profile already has "long-term partner" written, along with a bio reading "Relationship oriented only."
She's 34 nigga, fuck that bitch
>34
Oh shit, I
didn't notice that. She'd better want to start popping them out ASAP.
>Good. How many kids do you want?
Well, I went full autist and basically offered to put a baby in her, so long as she was okay with not getting married to me. No response so far, but she hasn't unmatched either.
You fucked up type "unless it's the right person" right after that as soon as possible
To be honest, I'm not invested enough to care too much. I'm 33, and she's 34. I have my range set from 18 to 35, but realistically I consider 24 to maaybe 32/33 acceptable for a relationship. Anything older, and I feel like too much time would be wasted forming a relationship before having kids. Anything too young, and I feel like it's too difficult to relate.
Oh yeah, I have no illusions about that. I've only recently started getting matches on the regular (I hardly ever got any during my 20s), but most of the women are around my age, and it's quite obvious most are now looking for a boring, financially secure guy to lock down. The other day I went on a date with a 33 year old woman who decided to wait until the middle of the meal to reveal she had a 9 year old son. I ended up getting a blow job, but I felt skeevy about it, because I knew I could never accept something serious with her. I can get more dates with 20-somethings now, but they're still as flaky, picky and superficial as I remember.
Latinas are my fave, and I think she is one, though I'm not 100% sure. She almost seems to have a mix of other features. Her body is attractive, though her face not quite as much.
Yeah, I know. How would you have messaged her, so that I can keep in mind for future matches?
>To be honest, I'm not invested enough to care too much. I'm 33, and she's 34. I have my range set from 18 to 35, but realistically I consider 24 to maaybe 32/33 acceptable for a relationship. Anything older, and I feel like too much time would be wasted forming a relationship before having kids. Anything too young, and I feel like it's too difficult to relate.
well she's not up for anything casual so why don't you unmatch her?
To be honest I have had at least one situation where I woman wrote she wasn't looking for hookups, and she hooked up that same night. I generally take what women say with a grain of salt.
I don't have much advice, but I will say, NEVER settle for single mothers. You were a relatively responsible guy, you shouldn't have to be burdened by some little shit who doesn't even share your genetics. The woman was irresponsible and her baby daddy knocked her up, that's her fucking problem. There are plenty of single women in their 30s that you can pick from.
As for age range I'd say stick from 30 to 36 to keep it close to your own level of experience or age. Don't be afraid to date up a little if you are interested in a woman like that. Im dating a woman 2 years older than me and its not a problem at all.
>okay with children
>not okay with being married
Ever understood this mindset. You are forever bonded with the person you have a child with… so why not just get married?
Because it shifts the power dynamic to the woman. Once married she can take half his assets, his income, his retirement, permanent alimony, and take his children on a whim, but if he doesn’t marry her the absolute worst she can do is take the kids and make you pay child support. Name me one benefit a man gets from being married that he doesn’t already get from being in a regular monogamous relationship. Just one.
Aren't there tax benefits?
Actually no. It's complicated because the US tax code is complicated but - in general - it is more profitable to be single. The "more money" comes from sharing expenses like a roommate - you both pay the house mortgage but share the house, you buy one bed and share it, etc. etc.
The kids get to grow up seeing a healthy marriage and use it as a gauge on their own standards for life.
nta but this is under the heavy assumption that marriage is objectively good. Circular reasoning you're proposing here.
You right. But you never actually tell a woman this, especially not a 34 year old.
You just flashed your hand to a professional, they'd have to be absolutely braindead to take you up on your offer at this point. Marriage is huge for women because it makes her the center of attention AND it gives her your balls on a silver platter and they feel entitled to it because all their friends are doing it, no woman is going to give that up without a few nosebleeds.
do anti marriage homosexuals really believe this? the only assets that are being split is stuff that is acquired after marriage.
She looks sexy. Is she a latina?
I wouldve said "oh then youre serious about making me yours. Whats your number?"
Her answers got really short there so you mightve blown it tbqhfam. I think you are out out(especkally by sayinf you dont wamna get married,dont give up info like that, dude) but if she responds ask for her number. If you really wanna roll the dice though then explain away the marriage shit by saying "Ive gotta feel it first before I get married. How about you?" and if she replies to that again, try to segway it into getting her jumber and a phone call.
definately one to show serious intentions only to ghost her after you fuck her kek
>only what gods want
>proceeds to do everything god doesnt want
what a dumb fuck
Women don't want commitment. Especially on tinder, lol.
I would unironically go for this line.
She's direct, is 34, yet still acts like she's in control of the situation, this line literally gives you one of the two followings:
- she somehow likes the boldness and will engage in a semi-ironic conversation flirting with you
- she will drop the conversation and maybe call you a creep
First case you get to fuck, second case you avoid picky bitch.
are you for real?
>34
>no casuals pls
no casuals with you lol
she did plenty casuals on her 20s lol
But the batteries in the clock were not running out in her 20s.
You just know that she was a turboslut in her 20s and now that she got a gunt and saggy tits thinks she's ready to settle down
I'm also willing to bet that there's at least one fwb situation going on where she's getting fucked while you're trying to oofy doofy her with your halloween costume talk lmao
you have ZERO game
This woman / girl sounds like a woman like a shitty person.
What a whore. She wants children at fucking 34? It's too late for that stupid hag, she chose to note get married young and have kids in her 20s and instead get dicked around by a bunch of men instead. Now she desperately needs a man to maintain her.
But to have children, oh how honerable (sarcasm).
She's definetely based and trad. Definetely not her last chance to have children with a long term husband (some cuck to save her from being a cat lady) because she's never been accountable her whole life.
also because if she gets preggo with any man and can't trap him into marriage, she knows he'll bail on her. These good for nothing pump and dump whores are your average single mothers or childless and happy bitches
She sounds like hell to deal with. Bail immediately.
she's christian you idiot.
"whatever god gives me"
she's looking for something real, not casual sex with an incel loser. why she is using tinder, i have no clue.
>she's looking for something real, not casual sex with an incel loser. why she is using tinder, i have no clue.
Because she's a harlot for Chad
i see a lot of these pics, where women always say they are not looking for casual, can you get women, who you can sleep with daily, but no sexy penis in vagoo, just sleeping in same bad while wrapped to each other.
I've never used Tinder and never will, but is this what it's like for guys? Trying to be pleasant and starting conversations, only to be stonewalled with straight-to-the-point answers that do not even try to keep the conversation going?
It depends on your attractiveness level mainly.
>Way above average attractiveness: matches are abundant and women will message you first, they are looking for hookups but will try for a relationship too
>Slightly above average attractiveness: matches will come easy but women will rarely message first, it will take effort to get them and they will expect a date
>Average attractiveness: matches will occasionally come in spurts, women never message first, and it will take an entire "talking stage" to even get them to go on a date
>Below average attractiveness: (this is me) matches are rare if ever, women never message first and more often than not do not respond at all, many unmatched and bots, getting one to go on a date is a monumental task and nearly impossible, it requires a long talking stage and every bit of wit that you have
>Bottom-tier attractiveness: no matches ever, all possible matches and likes are bots, app is worthless and should be uninstalled to save space
It's a fucking horrible app that I've used for years along with Hinge, which is only slightly better than Tinder since the people on there are mostly there for relationships and you can message directly on their pictures or prompts to start a convo. Bumble is the worst of the apps for ugly guys like me because women are supposed to message first within 24 hours. I used it for like 2 or 3 years and then gave up because I got like less than 10 matches on total and none messaged me at all and just let it expire.
I feel bad for you. I know it sounds condescending, but it comes from a place of good intentions. Sad the world has become the way it is. I probably sit around average based on how people interact with me in real life, so.