What do you think about the fact that plants suffer when they are eaten? .There was a scientific article about the fact that when you cut a plant it makes a sound of pain that cannot be heard by humans.
What do you think about the fact that plants suffer when they are eaten?
>you cannot live without hurting beings
>Killing yourself is also hurting a being
Well
i dont think eating fruit hurts anything? you dont kill a plant
This is why Jains are fruitarian. I don't understand people who go vegan and stop there, it seems like such a cop out. I believe and I think rightly so, that it's the destiny of all things to be eaten eventually and there can be no greater end. I also think it's why humans get into cremation and body preservation after death, because they deep down fear the natural cycle of the universe.
To sustain oneself, sacrifices must be made. Herbivores are not better than carnivores.
It's not like cows, woodchucks and rabbits give a fuck. Eat whatever man
>There was a scientific article
Replication? Never heard of it.
Bruh it’s not one article, it’s an entire field of botany now. There are multiple journals dedicated to plant intelligence.
Every thing has consciousness. Pain is built into the very fabric of this reality. Creation is impossible for whatever dumb reason without pain.
Sound of pain dont prove experience of pain or you have probably caused immense suffering in videogames.
>Sound of pain dont prove experience of pain or you have probably caused immense suffering in videogames.
I mean, I've lost count of how many orcs I have absolutely slaughtered in Shadow of Mordor. Do I feel bad about that? No. I feel kind of bad for, uh, things I have done in GTA, but let's not talk about that.
I eat mostly carnivore. Not my problem
Pain exists only exists in animals that need to move to avoid danger. Since plants can not move on a dime, there would be no evolutionary purpose for pain
>scientific article
Source? You started it
I don't know what article OP was referring to but The Secret Life of Plants goes into it all in quite a bit of detail.
But that’s not an article and not very much so scientific. It’s work of a one man and is not proof read not replicated by other people successfully
A scientific article would have been tested already so it had more weight to it
Anyone ever recreated something from secret life of plants?
Look up the research of Stefano Mancuso, Monica Gagliano, and Frantisek Baluska. All have multiple peer-reviewed articles demonstrating numerous aspects of plant intelligence.
>All have multiple peer-reviewed articles demonstrating numerous aspects of plant intelligence.
Ah, but thats not the topics on hand, now is it?
pray tell what is the topic then?
Existing causes suffering innately. Entropy requires existence to be in such a state that continuing your existence ensures energy will be deprived from something or someone else.
One can assign a moral value to what you're taking energy away from in order to continue your own existence here; but realistically you're awful no matter how you look at it.
Our world is a Plutonic world. We are in a low, predatory, and dense state of matter... in the higher worlds, relationships between the domains are more and more symbiotic.
The mineral, plant, animal, and human domains all have consciousness, corresponding to the development of soul.
Souls continue to evolve through reincarnations in the worlds.
Minerals and plants do not [yet] have animal souls. They partake in spirit and soul to a lesser degree than the animal domain.
[Most] bees and insects, do have "animal" souls, but do not yet have *individual* animal souls, they partake in a group-soul, in the form of the colony, or hive.
All animals have souls and their flesh should not be consumed for this reason.
Of the animal souls, some, such as dogs, pets, and livestock, are developing *individual* souls. As we ascend from the Plutonic world upwards through the Jupiterian world, these individuated animal souls will surpass the current development of man.
Total abstinence from flesh derived from animal souls, vegetarianism, is mandatory for spiritual development.
You may still have honey and milk, but you'd be better off, spiritually, with a full commitment to asceticism and renunciation.
You are right, op. The only thing that doesn't feel pain when you eat it is eggs. What is an eggs only diet called? We should all only eat eggs and drink water.
You have to eat ALL of the eggs
>There was a scientific article
Which article?
Even better, the souls of many will make good for the few
I know a lot about plant neurobiology, and it doesn’t bother me. If anything it made me closer and more appreciative towards plants. They’re thinking, feeling entities.
Mimosa respond to touch and have memory. Nursery trees make decisions about rearing saplings. Nutrient exchange is mediated by intraspecies communication and highly refined signaling which not only is as complex as animal signaling, in many cases the mechanisms are ancestrally related.
There’s a theory that plants even stimulated the development of intelligent signaling in insects and animals.
Mimic vines have vision. Plant cells act as lenses and have multiple types of photoreceptors, phytochromes, cryptochromes etc.
They can see your face and feel your voice; many are sensitive to sound.
A lot of them willingly get eaten, at least partially, as it’s part of their reproductive cycles. Pay attention to them and you can see they have moods, desires, agency. They even fall asleep.
This makes me wanna get back to wild gardening. Nothing feels better than a crazy patch of vibrant green heirloom tomato vines..
fuck yeah, let them go nuts
they don't suffer but react, suffering requires higher level of consciousness
Articles like Covid vaccines and WORLD WAR documentaries.
Plants are created to be eaten. They DON'T feel pain. To feel that, you have to have pain system in body.
A 7th sense man will NOT eat any animal, rather die. 7 Chakras in human body. It's natural to eat animals when you are only 5 sense being, 5th chakra human beings.
A 6th sense human will also repel meat by Nature. Humans are not equally created, Earth Surface is just a prison of solar system.
Real beings live inside the planet. All creatures HERE are BIO-MACHINES to fulfill the punishment.
Onions make you mourn their death through tears. Potatos bleed when you cut them. Pineapple attemps to fight back through needles to protect itself.
Is a fungus a plant? Can we eat fungi without it feeling any pain? Can we eat mushrooms, the fruiting body of the fungus?
If so, then we've got
Eggs,
Fungi,
Water, and
most Herbal Teas, on our new menu.
Any other candidates for our new pain free diet, /x/?
>over a day old
>not one single citation for anything posted