If Gnosticism is wrong, explain why the demiurge got so mad at Adam and Eve for eating from the tree of knowledge and no, "Because he said so" is not an answer.
>demiurge
It’s just God, and God was mad at them from eating from the tree of knowledge because he knew their hearts. Animals are blameless when they act evil because they don’t understand the concept. Since human beings both do evil, and understand it is evil to do it, they have placed on themselves an irrevocable curse than separates them from God’s kingdom. We may only be redeemed in death.
Ok but why was eating from the tree of knowledge evil?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It wasn’t, outside of being a rejection of God’s desires, eating from the tree of knowledge gave humanity an understanding of the difference between good and evil. In doing so, people become culpable for the evil actions. It is not a sin to be naked when you don’t know any better. When you know you are supposed to wear clothes, but walk around naked in public anyways, you are acting indecently. That is the curse knowledge of good and evil out upon mankind. They became culpable for their actions.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>nudity is evil
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don’t know how to tell you this anon but you’re not supposed to flash your wiener in public
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's a cultural more, though. It's not objectively evil in any way.
>Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."
St. Irenaeus' Text "against heresies" details the beliefs of the various heretical sects while making argument against. Reverse engineering from there if one is so inclined would be far easier than trying to interpret their abandoned scrolls
>flesh is LE BAD
If it feels good it's good. You can acknowledge the good of the soul without denying the partial good of the material. Why are gnosticucks like this?
>let someone else worry about it >3 generations later (aka almost 260~280 years) there is no way of going back
hurrrr why do people dislike degeneracy so much
The Catechism of the Catholic Church is a good starting point.
Gnosticism is not real
Most of it is platonist intrusions on Marcionite Chrestianity
Frick off israelites
Nobody asked about israelites.
Catholicism = judaism
Judaism ≠ Catholicism
Gnosticism is satanic dont fall for the ~~*memes*~~
But they have the best memes of any religion.
If Gnosticism is wrong, explain why the demiurge got so mad at Adam and Eve for eating from the tree of knowledge and no, "Because he said so" is not an answer.
Bro why do you even bother with wannabe Christians
>demiurge
It’s just God, and God was mad at them from eating from the tree of knowledge because he knew their hearts. Animals are blameless when they act evil because they don’t understand the concept. Since human beings both do evil, and understand it is evil to do it, they have placed on themselves an irrevocable curse than separates them from God’s kingdom. We may only be redeemed in death.
>ask for explanation of simple concepts of Christian theology
>ignore it when you get it
Obviously I'm not the person who asked, genius.
Then why did you respond at all? Frick off moron.
Why did you?
Anon maybe an Anonymous board isn't for you...
Ok but why was eating from the tree of knowledge evil?
It wasn’t, outside of being a rejection of God’s desires, eating from the tree of knowledge gave humanity an understanding of the difference between good and evil. In doing so, people become culpable for the evil actions. It is not a sin to be naked when you don’t know any better. When you know you are supposed to wear clothes, but walk around naked in public anyways, you are acting indecently. That is the curse knowledge of good and evil out upon mankind. They became culpable for their actions.
>nudity is evil
I don’t know how to tell you this anon but you’re not supposed to flash your wiener in public
That's a cultural more, though. It's not objectively evil in any way.
Wikipedia, list of gnostic texts for a start
The Nag Hammadi collection or NT-apocryphia.
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html
>Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."
jesus is incredible
two into one refers to consequence of thought/action, if i think something is wrong i simply dont do it and thats it.
male and female into one means that everybody is equal thus there is no male/female difference is society regarding things to do or hierarchy
when you truly do what you preach then you enter the kingdom and become baptized
moron you don't know shit.
>The creator of the universe is your enemy
>But luckily, there is a way for a human to defeat a god!
>Click here to find out more!
The lengths people go through to keep believing fairy tales is astounding.
St. Irenaeus' Text "against heresies" details the beliefs of the various heretical sects while making argument against. Reverse engineering from there if one is so inclined would be far easier than trying to interpret their abandoned scrolls
Gnosticsm is great because you get to make your own theology.
yep, just make shit up like the abramics,, historians, atheists, and humanitarians do, yep
Good thread, except for three (3) homosexuals so far.
I HATE THE DEMIURGE
OP here. I do too and I'm trying to figure out what to do with that energy.
Pic related is pretty complete, includes the Nag Hammadi texts, Mandean, Manichean and Cathar. Some Sufi texts as well.
Too bad Manichaeism, the most kino gnostic religion, is extinct and we don't have more of their shit written down.
https://www.amazon.com/Other-God-Dualist-Religions-Antiquity/dp/0300082533/ref=sr_1_5
>flesh is LE BAD
If it feels good it's good. You can acknowledge the good of the soul without denying the partial good of the material. Why are gnosticucks like this?
>let someone else worry about it
>3 generations later (aka almost 260~280 years) there is no way of going back
hurrrr why do people dislike degeneracy so much
I like that Spurdo Demiurge is about as popular as the actual ancient images of the demiurge is now.