what do I do if I'm a nonpassing transbian?

repress? suicide?
>inb4 give it more time
I've been on E for 4 years and my voice passes but I've still never malefailed

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ffs or chasercope on hrt

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why would I become a chaser? why would I want to date an hsts who sees me as inferior to her and never stops reminding me what a man I am?

      Honmode out to a gay bar or something just to get yourself some air and see how things go

      I wouldn't fit in at a gay bar, I'm too straight.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You've been on e for 4 years stop being dramatic

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          which poster are you?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >why would I become a chaser
        But anon, you are a chaser to start with.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not really a chaser. The closest thing to chaserism I have is a fear of cis women.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Honmode out to a gay bar or something just to get yourself some air and see how things go

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    give it more time things will turn out. maybe you will find yourself comfortable with how you present now or find new sense of style or self that presents more feminine. just mess around with it we believe in you op

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Im a transbian. I like my girls clocky 😛

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      do you actually like women or just transwomen

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer women visually, but they treat my like a guy, so i prefer trans women emotionally and mentally. They tend to understand me better and vice versa.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          why do you prefer clocky ones?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Becoz i am clocky. I appreciate androgyny in an artistic way. Not sexually. Im 100% AGP so im not super interested in sex with regular people anyways.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you're just a sexually demented pervert and everyone knows it. Just pull the trigger and be done with it. Simple as.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      stuff like this is why I stay in the closet. Hate me all you want, but if you met me irl you wouldn't be able to tell me apart from any other guy.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you look like a guy to everyone WTF is the point of trying to be a troony. One that looks like a guy and lusts after women, nonetheless. There's a reason you're in the closet. You can't pass and never will. Nobody wants you. Just have a nice day and taste the sweet release.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    how did you get a passing voice anon? about to rope cuz i haven’t gotten anywhere in 8 months

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      oh i found you again
      i still refuse to believe you did 5 voice teachers and still sound like a man
      you're either lying or tone deaf

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        idk how it’s hard to understand lol, they gave very little homework instructions and i didn’t practise much at all so nothing changed

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          if you didnt practice then isn't "8 months" disingenuous?
          by that logic: i wanted to change my voice when i was 15 but then i repressed for 10 years and now im working on it again. i wouldnt say i voice trained for 10 years lmfao

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            i practiced relatively consistently but i never said i was training full time just that i haven’t gotten anywhere in 8 months, because trainers don’t give me much help and i’m clearly autistic

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            ok legit question, do you want a voice training buddy? maybe you could find someone on one of the voice training discords? could be useful to have a real-time sounding board
            i'd offer but you probably hate me

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            i’m way too anxious to ever do that, i’ve never even posted my voice for feedback ever, even the lessons make me feel sick with anxiety. i also don’t hate you

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ok well maybe get your GAD treated first then try to find a voice practice partner

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      basic steps:
      1: learn how to control your larynx. The issue is that you aren't used to using the muscles consciously, so you need some kind of shortcut to teach your brain how to use them. Examples are this: http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/ and this: https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/7r5ekb/lookin_for_some_larynx_lift_clarification/dsuomke/
      There are more out there, but they all teach the same thing, so keep trying until you get one that works. This will increase your voice's resonance, but it'll take months of regular use before it stops sounding forced and unnatural and becomes something you can do for a sustained period of time.
      2: practice for months. The easiest way is to do it in conversation with other people. Your biggest obstacle here is burnout, and conversations solve this by keeping you from getting bored and keeping you from listening to the sound of your cringe unpracticed troonyvoice for hours at a time. Try to just have conversations with other troons (or cis people you trust not to judge you). And remember, your voice sucking now doesn't make you masculine, it's just a step in the process. You wouldn't judge pasta by how it tastes raw.

      Becoz i am clocky. I appreciate androgyny in an artistic way. Not sexually. Im 100% AGP so im not super interested in sex with regular people anyways.

      so you like clocky troons because they don't make you feel bad about yourself the way passers/cis people do?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No I like them because they can empathize with my daily experience of being visibly trans. I have friends that are effectively stealth too, but if it's someone im intimate with, the common understanding and experience is nice.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not visibly trans, I present as a cis guy.

          picrel: https://unsee cc/album#IQr5hKz3ViWVF3MB

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Lawl hi ginger! Hope youre well! Unfortunate to see you posting here, but glad to run into you again.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know who you are but thanks I guess.

  7. 1 year ago
    girltwink

    move to a college town, you’ll be fine.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      and be treated like a freak but politely?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    get off the internet and go outside

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >nonpassing transbian
    that's most of them

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